Aussie Open
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@barbarian Kyrgios might have been reading Jimmy Connors' book.
Jimmy liked a zoo.
But, Nick needs to be a bit careful, because fans in other countries will likely be taking notes and he doesn't have home court advantage for long in a season.
Quade Cooper found out that you've got to have a pretty thick skin to deal with fans relentlessly getting stuck into you.
Connors did.
His book is a good read - the Duke of Kent story on page 223-226 below is pretty funny.
The Outsider: My Autobiography
Jimmy Connors took the tennis world by storm like no player in the history of the game. A shaggy-haired working-class kid from the wrong side of the tracks, he was prepared to battle for every point, to shout and scream until he was heard, and he didn't care whom he upset in doing so. He was...
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent unloads on ‘10-year-old’ antics in fiery tirade
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent UNLOADS on ‘10-year-old’ antics
Venus calls a spade a spade. He is a talent. But Nick Kyrgios is a knob. They were encouraging the mob and it crossed the line of what is acceptable at a tennis match. It was more like Bay 13 at the G. If the umpire had any balls (she didn't) she would have threatened to kick everyone out of the stadium
At one point said Knob deliberately smashed a ball into the crowd and hit a kid in the stomach. Is that much different to what Djokovic was kicked out of the US Open for doing a couple of years ago?
I went to the Aus Open a couple of years ago and the incredible skill and talent on display was more than enough to entertain me and I suspect anyone else who was there. If you want a clown show go to a farking circus.
I didn't mind them supporting the home town team. But he whipped them up to a frenzy. Venus said they were shouting obscenities about him and his family during the changes of ends. The umpire and referee are right there and did nothing. Weak
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.
That's just it. It's not EP or the MCG. They aren't expected to play in silence, and if you spend any time watching the Open you know this is true. But the sport has limits and they overstepped those. The umpire was too weak to maintain some semblance of control
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@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent unloads on ‘10-year-old’ antics in fiery tirade
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent UNLOADS on ‘10-year-old’ antics
Venus calls a spade a spade. He is a talent. But Nick Kyrgios is a knob. They were encouraging the mob and it crossed the line of what is acceptable at a tennis match. It was more like Bay 13 at the G. If the umpire had any balls (she didn't) she would have threatened to kick everyone out of the stadium
At one point said Knob deliberately smashed a ball into the crowd and hit a kid in the stomach. Is that much different to what Djokovic was kicked out of the US Open for doing a couple of years ago?
I went to the Aus Open a couple of years ago and the incredible skill and talent on display was more than enough to entertain me and I suspect anyone else who was there. If you want a clown show go to a farking circus.
I didn't mind them supporting the home town team. But he whipped them up to a frenzy. Venus said they were shouting obscenities about him and his family during the changes of ends. The umpire and referee are right there and did nothing. Weak
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.
That's just it. It's not EP or the MCG. They aren't expected to play in silence, and if you spend any time watching the Open you know this is true. But the sport has limits and they overstepped those. The umpire was too weak to maintain some semblance of control
Yeah, while I agree that tennis is a bit of a joke when it comes to acceptability of crowd actions and probably needs to let things get more animated I also think K&K are pushing things to the extreme.
It can be good that someone is going OTT. It helps define the 'right' level and show what is too much.
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@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Open:
@canefan said in Aussie Open:
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent unloads on ‘10-year-old’ antics in fiery tirade
‘Absolute knob’: Kyrgios’ doubles opponent UNLOADS on ‘10-year-old’ antics
Venus calls a spade a spade. He is a talent. But Nick Kyrgios is a knob. They were encouraging the mob and it crossed the line of what is acceptable at a tennis match. It was more like Bay 13 at the G. If the umpire had any balls (she didn't) she would have threatened to kick everyone out of the stadium
At one point said Knob deliberately smashed a ball into the crowd and hit a kid in the stomach. Is that much different to what Djokovic was kicked out of the US Open for doing a couple of years ago?
I went to the Aus Open a couple of years ago and the incredible skill and talent on display was more than enough to entertain me and I suspect anyone else who was there. If you want a clown show go to a farking circus.
I didn't mind them supporting the home town team. But he whipped them up to a frenzy. Venus said they were shouting obscenities about him and his family during the changes of ends. The umpire and referee are right there and did nothing. Weak
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.
That's just it. It's not EP or the MCG. They aren't expected to play in silence, and if you spend any time watching the Open you know this is true. But the sport has limits and they overstepped those. The umpire was too weak to maintain some semblance of control
How did they overstep the limits? By hyping the crowd up? Because really that's all they did, the occasional gesture to the stands when they won a point.
The worst that I saw was a bit of commotion before a serve, which happened regardless of who was serving. It didn't seem to impact on the players at all, so what's the harm?
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@kiwimurph said in Aussie Open:
The crowd today shouldn't be as rowdy as it's set for Rod Laver which requires specific tickets to attend (i.e. not with a ground pass).
I believe they are throwing the gates open to RLA for that game, and hopefully for Dylan Alcott in the Quad final as well.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.Aussie take.
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@frank said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.Aussie take.
Kiwi take: Aww bro that Auzzie duckhead totally showed our boi mad disruspuct, aye. Need to get him down to Dunedin and show him how we do it down here on the South Island, aye. Get some locals, blast a bit of Dave Dobbyn, throw a few Speights in the chilly bin and he'll be wishing he never put his foot on a court, aye. You'd never see our Ruchie or Beaudie or Buck carry on like thut, aye!!!
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@frank said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.Aussie take.
Kiwi take: Aww bro that Auzzie duckhead totally showed our boi mad disruspuct, aye. Need to get him down to Dunedin and show him how we do it down here on the South Island, aye. Get some locals, blast a bit of Dave Dobbyn, throw a few Speights in the chilly bin and he'll be wishing he never put his foot on a court, aye. You'd never see our Ruchie or Beaudie or Buck carry on like thut, aye!!!
Good old Australian diplomacy to smooth down the incidents, take on a mock NZ accent.
New Zealand doubles player calls Nick Kyrgios an ‘absolute knob’ after defeat
Michael Venus says Australian as maturity of a ‘10-year-old’ after losing to the ‘Special Ks’
Venus, 34, on Wednesday said the sledging from the crowd was at times intolerable and some spectators made comments about him and his family as he prepared to serve. The on-court tension between Venus and Kyrgios, in particular, was noticeable and both had words with each other and the umpire over perceived injustices. Kyrgios also mocked Venus’s at-times wayward ball toss. Venus said on Wednesday that Kyrgios’s supporters messaged him on social media “an extreme amount” but there were also “a lot of messages from other people saying how embarrassed they were with the crowd’s behaviour and they’re sorry, it shouldn’t have been like that”. ... “Between serves [THEY WERE]geeing the crowd up and getting them to cheer at times like that. I don’t think that’s really on. “You know if it’s on the other foot, old mate [KYRGIOS]would have flipped his lid. He already did get mad there by himself. It’s amazing, he can smash a ball out that hits a kid and just ’cause he gives them a racket afterwards people can say he’s such a good guy.”Nope, sounds like he is a knob.
As for the crowd, is sledging his family ok? If it is fine with Glenn McGrath I guess it is fine by me.I've paid to see people play at the Open, I wouldn't pay to see that sort of crowd behaviour.
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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@frank said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.Aussie take.
Kiwi take: Aww bro that Auzzie duckhead totally showed our boi mad disruspuct, aye. Need to get him down to Dunedin and show him how we do it down here on the South Island, aye. Get some locals, blast a bit of Dave Dobbyn, throw a few Speights in the chilly bin and he'll be wishing he never put his foot on a court, aye. You'd never see our Ruchie or Beaudie or Buck carry on like thut, aye!!!
Good old Australian diplomacy to smooth down the incidents, take on a mock NZ accent.
Oh sorry, I got confused and forgot this was the United Nations General Assembly. I thought I was on the fucking Fern for a second!
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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@frank said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Shouting obscenities about him, the horror! Would never take place at, say, an Eden Park Bledisloe...
Not that I'm condoning it necessarily, but it's part of sport. Better than playing in front of an empty stadium in round 2 of the Bumfuck Open.
I love the special K show. The crowd is a zoo and yeah they whip them up. Fantastic. Should be more of it. Since when did we decide tennis had to be played in complete silence?
They are setting out to entertain, in a sport that is supposed to be entertaining. I'd be fine with it if it was a pair of Brits at Wimbledon, or yanks at the US Open too. Or at the Davis Cup (as it used to be played anyway). Tennis needs more heaving, hostile home crowds, not less.Aussie take.
Kiwi take: Aww bro that Auzzie duckhead totally showed our boi mad disruspuct, aye. Need to get him down to Dunedin and show him how we do it down here on the South Island, aye. Get some locals, blast a bit of Dave Dobbyn, throw a few Speights in the chilly bin and he'll be wishing he never put his foot on a court, aye. You'd never see our Ruchie or Beaudie or Buck carry on like thut, aye!!!
Good old Australian diplomacy to smooth down the incidents, take on a mock NZ accent.
Michael Venus says Australian as maturity of a ‘10-year-old’ after losing to the ‘Special Ks’
Venus, 34, on Wednesday said the sledging from the crowd was at times intolerable and some spectators made comments about him and his family as he prepared to serve. The on-court tension between Venus and Kyrgios, in particular, was noticeable and both had words with each other and the umpire over perceived injustices. Kyrgios also mocked Venus’s at-times wayward ball toss. Venus said on Wednesday that Kyrgios’s supporters messaged him on social media “an extreme amount” but there were also “a lot of messages from other people saying how embarrassed they were with the crowd’s behaviour and they’re sorry, it shouldn’t have been like that”. ... “Between serves [THEY WERE]geeing the crowd up and getting them to cheer at times like that. I don’t think that’s really on. “You know if it’s on the other foot, old mate [KYRGIOS]would have flipped his lid. He already did get mad there by himself. It’s amazing, he can smash a ball out that hits a kid and just ’cause he gives them a racket afterwards people can say he’s such a good guy.”Nope, sounds like he is a knob.
As for the crowd, is sledging his family ok? If it is fine with Glenn McGrath I guess it is fine by me.I've paid to see people play at the Open, I wouldn't pay to see that sort of crowd behaviour.
Of course sledging his family isn't OK, but how is that Kyrgios fault? I didn't realise waving his arms between points was code for 'sledge this guy's family'.
You may think Kyrgios is a knob, I disagree. I think old mate Venus comes across as a bit of a sook.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Venus comes across as a bit of a sook
This I agree with, but I think old mate Nick also comes across as a boof head bogan
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@dogmeat said in Aussie Open:
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
Venus comes across as a bit of a sook
This I agree with, but I think old mate Nick also comes across as a boof head bogan
Yeah I don't disagree. But I kind of like that. He's unafraid to put himself out there, warts and all. He's a bit dumb, he can be a hothead, and always a few bad serves away from a meltdown.
But I really enjoy watching him, and I want him to win so I can keep watching him. He makes tennis more fun.
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@barbarian He'd almost certainly be a better tennis player if he was a little less dumb and a little less 'passionate'.
Like the original "brat" McEnroe kept his cool when he had to in order to beat Bjorg.
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@dogmeat True. He knows that, though. If he knuckled down, worked hard and eliminated the showboat stuff he'd be in the top 10. But he doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. People get quite frustrated with that, but it's ultimately his call. It's an individual sport and he can do what he likes.
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Speaking of McEnroe I tend to agree with his comments
McEnroe fully backs Kyrgios’ theory that tennis needs more “personalities”. “You need to have a rooting interest in someone,” he said. “Whether you think he’s the bad guy, some people think Djokovic is Darth Vader. Everyone loves Roger Federer. “It’s not like it is in team sports where you can root for your city or your country, so this idea of expressing yourself and showing personality is very important.” -
@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@dogmeat True. He knows that, though. If he knuckled down, worked hard and eliminated the showboat stuff he'd be in the top 10. But he doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. People get quite frustrated with that, but it's ultimately his call. It's an individual sport and he can do what he likes.
The thing I dislike about him, is that he just doesn't have that desire to win. That fighters instinct. He swings for the fence, and if it comes off it comes off. If not, he'll find someone to blame.
Remember how disliked Lleyton was early on? Then everyone grew to love him because he refused to lose, ever. You had to beat the cnt 3 x on every point.
Kyrios on the other hand has quit more points, games and tournaments than I care to remember. Still could be worse I guess, he could be Bernie Tomic.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Open:
@dogmeat True. He knows that, though. If he knuckled down, worked hard and eliminated the showboat stuff he'd be in the top 10. But he doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. People get quite frustrated with that, but it's ultimately his call. It's an individual sport and he can do what he likes.
The trade off between the trophies and who he wants to be.
Probably figures he's worth enough so it isn't about the money.
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@kiwimurph said in Aussie Open:
“You need to have a rooting interest in someone,” he said.
The era of Hingis and Sharapova featured many rooting interests.
