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Super Rugby 2022

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  • gt12G gt12

    @duluth

    It's the only rugby pod/show I consistently listen to, but traveling by train to work helps on that front.

    Parson's picking is generally terrible.

    However, when Hall and Parsons discuss tactics and operations it really shows how little we understand about the game, as it is played at that level.

    Last year they got a bit further away from that, sadly.

    I like Hall. He discusses other HBs really professionally and supportively, without even one moan about not being close to AB selection, especially as some of them were clearly playing worse than him.

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    @gt12 Parsons had some good analysis of the Blues kicking game last year, which was born out by their improvements in SA-TT.

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      @duluth

      It's the only rugby pod/show I consistently listen to, but traveling by train to work helps on that front.

      Parson's picking is generally terrible.

      However, when Hall and Parsons discuss tactics and operations it really shows how little we understand about the game, as it is played at that level.

      Last year they got a bit further away from that, sadly.

      I like Hall. He discusses other HBs really professionally and supportively, without even one moan about not being close to AB selection, especially as some of them were clearly playing worse than him.

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      @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2022:

      Parson's picking is generally terrible.

      Parsons' picking isn't helped by his enthusiasm for making "big calls", which is fun though.

      Interesting that both he and Hall were picking the Waratahs to improve a lot this season.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @duluth

        It's the only rugby pod/show I consistently listen to, but traveling by train to work helps on that front.

        Parson's picking is generally terrible.

        However, when Hall and Parsons discuss tactics and operations it really shows how little we understand about the game, as it is played at that level.

        Last year they got a bit further away from that, sadly.

        I like Hall. He discusses other HBs really professionally and supportively, without even one moan about not being close to AB selection, especially as some of them were clearly playing worse than him.

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        @gt12 I've never been a fan of Parsons the player (more on his ability/size than his enthusiasm/drive where he always gave 100%) but enjoyed listening to his analysis, as you say he has some great insights that we arent always onto

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            @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2022:

            Sadly MP not playing, there'd be a good double figures of tries there!

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            • TimT Tim

              James Parsons is picking the Chiefs as favourites for the title.

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              @tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

              James Parsons is picking the Chiefs as favourites for the title.

              I reckon that's a decent shout if they fan get Josh Ioane playing to his potential at 10.

              Blues locks are going to be a real problem - gut says the losses of Tuipulotu & GCT are going to be felt big time

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

                James Parsons is picking the Chiefs as favourites for the title.

                I reckon that's a decent shout if they fan get Josh Ioane playing to his potential at 10.

                Blues locks are going to be a real problem - gut says the losses of Tuipulotu & GCT are going to be felt big time

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                @kiwimurph and Goodhue excellent one week, anonymous the next, plus has had plenty of injury concerns....

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @tim said in Super Rugby 2022:

                  James Parsons is picking the Chiefs as favourites for the title.

                  I reckon that's a decent shout if they fan get Josh Ioane playing to his potential at 10.

                  Blues locks are going to be a real problem - gut says the losses of Tuipulotu & GCT are going to be felt big time

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                  @kiwimurph yeah if they get Ioane to be consistently at his good streak form from a couple of years ago, he's got one helluva backline sitting there to use the wide space he's extremely good at unlocking.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @kiwimurph yeah if they get Ioane to be consistently at his good streak form from a couple of years ago, he's got one helluva backline sitting there to use the wide space he's extremely good at unlocking.

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                    @bones said in Super Rugby 2022:

                    @kiwimurph yeah if they get Ioane to be consistently at his good streak form from a couple of years ago, he's got one helluva backline sitting there to use the wide space he's extremely good at unlocking.

                    From the warm up half he played he is looking to run onto the ball at speed as well. That’s a big USP in my book. The defence has to hold and compress in his possible channels s that cannot let him get a break. We have missed that attribute since DC and Cruden.

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                      Episodes from SENZ covering each NZ based Super Rugby team.

                      https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/1Yf4ET7JVoDza09bDMhSN5/0016f298bc636a549f4918f38a91f097/BluesBrothers_Banner.png
                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958992

                      https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/4SrnlgKJPvZJlnBbo8zEzI/2b734661882572d32f32e4789126756b/ChiefsMana_Banner.png
                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958532

                      https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/1Is5QIbC5S0Qob1pZJ0qm8/ab95ef2fba1433e01fb21dd8391bb65e/HurricaneValley_Banner.png
                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958974

                      https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/23YX1ode0PlwiHeI6hSPof/3f5a8eb37e294ac4631755dc1ed5082c/SuperSouth_Banner.png
                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958514

                      https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/5YU5qPw5WLCdH8l5PEGdRY/692fe5a99cb9709b26c17cbb8f2e24bd/InTheRed_Banner.png
                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958009

                      https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/6wa76NNV0KN35koDuLH4W4/56073f4269d2cf8d2fa5499e2d208a5c/PacificFlair_Banner.png
                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958027

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                      • DiceD Dice

                        Episodes from SENZ covering each NZ based Super Rugby team.

                        https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/1Yf4ET7JVoDza09bDMhSN5/0016f298bc636a549f4918f38a91f097/BluesBrothers_Banner.png
                        https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958992

                        https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/4SrnlgKJPvZJlnBbo8zEzI/2b734661882572d32f32e4789126756b/ChiefsMana_Banner.png
                        https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958532

                        https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/1Is5QIbC5S0Qob1pZJ0qm8/ab95ef2fba1433e01fb21dd8391bb65e/HurricaneValley_Banner.png
                        https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958974

                        https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/23YX1ode0PlwiHeI6hSPof/3f5a8eb37e294ac4631755dc1ed5082c/SuperSouth_Banner.png
                        https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958514

                        https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/5YU5qPw5WLCdH8l5PEGdRY/692fe5a99cb9709b26c17cbb8f2e24bd/InTheRed_Banner.png
                        https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958009

                        https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/6wa76NNV0KN35koDuLH4W4/56073f4269d2cf8d2fa5499e2d208a5c/PacificFlair_Banner.png
                        https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=958027

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                        @dice Finlay Christie was on the Blues episode and mentioned that Beauden isn't too far away.

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                          So no one in UK wanted SRP TV deal, so don;t look for it there.

                          Sanzaar chief executive Brendan Morris is confident of agreeing a broadcast deal in the UK and Ireland markets for the All Blacks series against in July and the Rugby Championship that follows, despite having to pull Super Rugby Pacific out of its bundled offering to pay-TV operators.

                          Super Rugby Pacific will now be shown on a new platform, sanzaarrugby.tv, in the UK, Ireland, Italy, Europe (excluding France), the Middle East, China and India/Sri Lanka, with the Sky-owned RugbyPass platform no longer an option after "challenges” in the past 12 months, Morris said.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/127815695/sanzaar-confident-of-uk-broadcast-deal-for-all-blacks-test-season-as-super-rugby-misses-out

                          EDIT: Looks like 50 Squid for the entire season, live and on demand

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                            A good round 1 preview for the season: https://www.flipsnack.com/tahs2015/srp-r1-flipsnack/full-view.html?utm_source=web&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Sanzaar+Round+Preview

                            It outlines the overall Super Rugby win/loss record for each team over the years which I found quite interesting (excluding the Blues). I have highlighted the rest of the Kiwi teams below.

                            Crusaders:
                            Played: 382
                            Won: 271
                            Lost: 103
                            Drawn: 8
                            P/D: +3612

                            Hurricanes
                            Played: 357
                            Won: 205
                            Lost: 150
                            Drawn: 6
                            P/D: +1126

                            Chiefs:
                            Played: 360
                            Won: 191
                            Lost: 159
                            Drawn: 10
                            P/D: +519

                            Highlanders:
                            Played: 357
                            Won: 174
                            Lost: 179
                            Drawn: 4
                            P/D: -23

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                              Interesting, I knew NZR was bankrolling MP and Drua - something they def do not talk enough about, should be shouting to the stars. But NZR and generating buzz and positive press do not go toether. But it seems that NZ Govt also backing MP to the tune of 4.5 million

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-nz-governments-multi-million-dollar-funding-of-moana-pasifika-revealed/EHCXYOVDFLANREQMMXMP3K7QE4/

                              Paywalled but

                              In response to a series of Official Information Act requests to government departments, Sport New Zealand this week confirmed to the Herald it provided the $4m underwrite to Moana Pasifika Limited (MPL) and a $500,000 operating grant for the Moana Pasifika Charitable Trust.

                              Sport New Zealand issued that funding via a transfer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT).

                              The underwrite is available for a maximum of four years and includes an initial grant of up to $1m with no requirement to repay, and $3m loan facility.

                              Basically NZ is providing all the money and most of the players for MP, along with over half the players for their national teams. All you'll hear in the interantional press is the handful of Pacific born players in the ABs. πŸ™„

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                                Interesting, I knew NZR was bankrolling MP and Drua - something they def do not talk enough about, should be shouting to the stars. But NZR and generating buzz and positive press do not go toether. But it seems that NZ Govt also backing MP to the tune of 4.5 million

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-nz-governments-multi-million-dollar-funding-of-moana-pasifika-revealed/EHCXYOVDFLANREQMMXMP3K7QE4/

                                Paywalled but

                                In response to a series of Official Information Act requests to government departments, Sport New Zealand this week confirmed to the Herald it provided the $4m underwrite to Moana Pasifika Limited (MPL) and a $500,000 operating grant for the Moana Pasifika Charitable Trust.

                                Sport New Zealand issued that funding via a transfer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT).

                                The underwrite is available for a maximum of four years and includes an initial grant of up to $1m with no requirement to repay, and $3m loan facility.

                                Basically NZ is providing all the money and most of the players for MP, along with over half the players for their national teams. All you'll hear in the interantional press is the handful of Pacific born players in the ABs. πŸ™„

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                                @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                Interesting, I knew NZR was bankrolling MP and Drua - something they def do not talk enough about, should be shouting to the stars. But NZR and generating buzz and positive press do not go toether. But it seems that NZ Govt also backing

                                NZR not bakrolling Drua, they just did the guarantees etc to get them a license, Fiji RU now got the license and Aus govt put some money in

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                                  Interesting, I knew NZR was bankrolling MP and Drua - something they def do not talk enough about, should be shouting to the stars. But NZR and generating buzz and positive press do not go toether. But it seems that NZ Govt also backing MP to the tune of 4.5 million

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-nz-governments-multi-million-dollar-funding-of-moana-pasifika-revealed/EHCXYOVDFLANREQMMXMP3K7QE4/

                                  Paywalled but

                                  In response to a series of Official Information Act requests to government departments, Sport New Zealand this week confirmed to the Herald it provided the $4m underwrite to Moana Pasifika Limited (MPL) and a $500,000 operating grant for the Moana Pasifika Charitable Trust.

                                  Sport New Zealand issued that funding via a transfer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT).

                                  The underwrite is available for a maximum of four years and includes an initial grant of up to $1m with no requirement to repay, and $3m loan facility.

                                  Basically NZ is providing all the money and most of the players for MP, along with over half the players for their national teams. All you'll hear in the interantional press is the handful of Pacific born players in the ABs. πŸ™„

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                                  bayimports
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                                  @machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:

                                  Interesting, I knew NZR was bankrolling MP and Drua - something they def do not talk enough about, should be shouting to the stars. But NZR and generating buzz and positive press do not go toether. But it seems that NZ Govt also backing MP to the tune of 4.5 million

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-nz-governments-multi-million-dollar-funding-of-moana-pasifika-revealed/EHCXYOVDFLANREQMMXMP3K7QE4/

                                  Paywalled but

                                  In response to a series of Official Information Act requests to government departments, Sport New Zealand this week confirmed to the Herald it provided the $4m underwrite to Moana Pasifika Limited (MPL) and a $500,000 operating grant for the Moana Pasifika Charitable Trust.

                                  Sport New Zealand issued that funding via a transfer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT).

                                  The underwrite is available for a maximum of four years and includes an initial grant of up to $1m with no requirement to repay, and $3m loan facility.

                                  Basically NZ is providing all the money and most of the players for MP, along with over half the players for their national teams. All you'll hear in the interantional press is the handful of Pacific born players in the ABs. πŸ™„

                                  lol who needs silverlake marketing expertise..this does appear to be an obvious miss

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                                    Big thumbs down for Queenstown as a venue. Shit field, badly needs lights, coverage shoddy.

                                    Why couldn't they base teams around the periphery of the Waikato/BOP region, and bus two hours to the games at Hamilton?

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                                      Big thumbs down for Queenstown as a venue. Shit field, badly needs lights, coverage shoddy.

                                      Why couldn't they base teams around the periphery of the Waikato/BOP region, and bus two hours to the games at Hamilton?

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                                      @tim I like it because games are early for me 730 pm but that is selfish.

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                                        @tim I like it because games are early for me 730 pm but that is selfish.

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                                        @broughie That has nothing to do with venue.

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                                          @broughie That has nothing to do with venue.

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                                          @tim Well if they dont have lights they have to play it early right?

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