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Black Caps vs Proteas 2022

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  • RapidoR Rapido

    We've been quite blessed with our 3rd and 4th seamers this last era. Well, veeeeeeery blessed with Wagner and Jamieson.

    But credit goes to de Grandhomme and even Doug Bracewell before him. It is not an easy job, should be considered a specialist position.

    Look at these specialist opening bowlers' records in that position (even if small sample sizes):
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    @rapido said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

    We've been quite blessed with our 3rd and 4th seamers this last era. Well, veeeeeeery blessed with Wagner and Jamieson.

    But credit goes do de Grandhomme and even Doug Bracewell before him. It is not an easy job, should be considered a specialist position.

    Look at these specialist opening bowlers' records in that position (even if small sample sizes):
    622b7ba6-0e0f-4fef-ab1b-d97e448df7b1-image.png

    Hasn’t Wagner always been in that position. The stats nerd in me notes his average is slightly higher than his overall career figure ?

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      Wagner on fire. Three fours in a row !

      It must be fun being a night watchman provided you survive overnight. If he scores great, if he doesn’t no great loss.

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        Wags doing two things

        Scoring a few bonus runs to push the game along
        Settling the nerves of the 4 run scorers to come, who would have been a little edgy about things this morning, but have probably just settled down a little

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          So we've solved the issue of who to bat #5 with Nicholls shifting up after Taylor's retirement...

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            10 overs this morning, 59 runs

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              Fuck, misses a second test 50.

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                Great night watchman score there from Wags..I dont want to start thinking about 300 + yet, as that collapse always seems just around the corner when you least expect it, but a good partnership here would go a long way to making that happen

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                  Perfect, now Wags can start channelling that frustration into his bowling in the second innings.

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                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                    Perfect, now Wags can start channelling that frustration into his bowling in the second innings.

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                    @cyclops said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                    Perfect, now Wags can start channelling that frustration into his bowling in the second innings.

                    Exactly. If he starts believing he’s a decent batsman it will detract from his bowling

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                      Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

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                        Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                        Great record at home, not so flash away.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                          Great record at home, not so flash away.

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                          @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                          Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                          Great record at home, not so flash away.

                          To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                            Great record at home, not so flash away.

                            To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

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                            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                            Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                            Great record at home, not so flash away.

                            To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

                            at least he has turned up against a decent bowling attack as well, Im sure I've given him sh*t many times, but delivering against SA is a good result. Now if he could do that in SA, then that would be even better!

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                              Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                              Great record at home, not so flash away.

                              To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

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                              @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                              @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                              Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                              Great record at home, not so flash away.

                              To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

                              by coming home? I know a beligerent left handed opener who does something very similar

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                              • bayimportsB bayimports

                                @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                                Great record at home, not so flash away.

                                To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

                                at least he has turned up against a decent bowling attack as well, Im sure I've given him sh*t many times, but delivering against SA is a good result. Now if he could do that in SA, then that would be even better!

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                                @bayimports said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                                Great record at home, not so flash away.

                                To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

                                at least he has turned up against a decent bowling attack as well, Im sure I've given him sh*t many times, but delivering against SA is a good result. Now if he could do that in SA, then that would be even better!

                                Steady on. Everyone knows he only performs at home.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                                  Great record at home, not so flash away.

                                  To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

                                  by coming home? I know a beligerent left handed opener who does something very similar

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                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  @mariner4life said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                  Nicholls is like a not as good Dave Warner

                                  Great record at home, not so flash away.

                                  To his credit every time the average dips under 40 he plays a big one and gets it over again.

                                  by coming home? I know a beligerent left handed opener who does something very similar

                                  Yep, Hayden and Gayle were magnificent players alright.

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                                    so the maligned Henry and Nicholls coming up big

                                    Well done lads.

                                    That's a pretty fucking good knock considering what he had to work with yesterday

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                                      Great stuff Nicholls. Always seems to perform when his place in the side is questioned.

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                                        Well batted Nicholls, stepping up to the plate with Kane injured and Taylor’s retirement!

                                        8 hundreds now, quietly edging his way up the list.

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                                        • rotatedR rotated

                                          Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

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                                          @rotated said in Black Caps vs Proteas 2022:

                                          Mitchell gone immediately after lunch. He has no business batting in the top 6 at test level.

                                          I'll disagree on that one.

                                          Looks to me easily capable of averaging 35ish at 5 or 6 over the next 3 or 4 years as we cross generations.

                                          He's not really replacing mid-40s averaging Taylor or mid-30s averaging CdG. He's replacing the high-20s averaging Taylor and/or CdG of the last 2 years.

                                          Only 'problem' is those are the cushier batting spots - which could be used to introduce debutants and youngsters.

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