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Quite the group of QBs in the AFC West
Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson and presumably Carr (he needs a new deal but I can't see Raiders going elsewhere)
As he was a tormenter of the 49ers his whole career i'm glad to see Wilson out of the NFC.
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
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And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
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@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.
If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.
You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.
It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.
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@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.
If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.
You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.
It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.
If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.
You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.
It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.
I don't know how far along Trey is. It would be ideal if he was at a point where he could start. Shanahan's offense is good for a less than stellar or a young QB because it is so run orientated. If he has the arm and accuracy he could provide a vertical threat that Jimmy didn't and that leaves all that money to spend on the team if they move Jimmy G. The pipe dream is Brady coming back to his home town for one season, don't know how much he would cost though and even if he can just move (I don't know if he was under contract at Tampa for 2023)
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well, no excuses now
we've been told we have the squad to win outside of QB. WIlson isn't at the peak of his powers, but he is an ENORMOUS upgrade on Lock and Bridgewater.
Perhaps we also, you know, try and throw the ball more than 5 yards at a time?
The AFC West is a fucking bloodbath now. A decent team is not going to the playoffs next year
Rodgers getting absolutely paid.
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Carson Wentz going back to the NFC East. He's off to Washington for two 3rd round picks.
This obviously puts Colts in the hunt for a QB.
Wentz is an upgrade for Washington but he's been traded twice in 12 months.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
Carson Wentz going back to the NFC East. He's off to Washington for two 3rd round picks.
This obviously puts Colts in the hunt for a QB.
Wentz is an upgrade for Washington but he's been traded twice in 12 months.
He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-62-starting-qbs-of-the-2021-nfl-season
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Wenz is good enough to trade for, not good enough to keep.
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@dice that seems entirely fair
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@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
Carson Wentz going back to the NFC East. He's off to Washington for two 3rd round picks.
This obviously puts Colts in the hunt for a QB.
Wentz is an upgrade for Washington but he's been traded twice in 12 months.
He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-62-starting-qbs-of-the-2021-nfl-season
@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.
NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sureYeah. You would think Colts have some plan in place to replace him so will be interesting to see what they do (trade for Jimmy G, trade for Carr, trade for Cousins, trade for DeShaun Watson?).
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@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.
NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sureYeah. You would think Colts have some plan in place to replace him so will be interesting to see what they do (trade for Jimmy G, trade for Carr, trade for Cousins, trade for DeShaun Watson?).
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.
NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sureYeah. You would think Colts have some plan in place to replace him so will be interesting to see what they do (trade for Jimmy G, trade for Carr, trade for Cousins, trade for DeShaun Watson?).
the Colts are a nice destination. They were only a monumental fuck up from post-season football last year.
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actually i take that back
Why in teh fuck, as a decent QB, would you voluntarily move to the AFC?
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The bigger problem the Colts have is no first round pick this year so they'll struggle to put together a good draft package. This year's crop of QBs in the draft also don't look like they're ready to start in the NFL. They basically have to look at free agency. So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates. Honestly I'd go for Bridgewater. Colts run game and defence is solid and Bridgewater is the kind of safe QB that can't win games by himself but also won't throw them away. Then they can look to draft a QB on day 2 or 3 of the draft and give him a year or two to develop behind Bridgewater.
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The bigger problem the Colts have is no first round pick this year so they'll struggle to put together a good draft package. This year's crop of QBs in the draft also don't look like they're ready to start in the NFL. They basically have to look at free agency. So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates. Honestly I'd go for Bridgewater. Colts run game and defence is solid and Bridgewater is the kind of safe QB that can't win games by himself but also won't throw them away. Then they can look to draft a QB on day 2 or 3 of the draft and give him a year or two to develop behind Bridgewater.
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@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.
Add Jimmy G to this list
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.
Add Jimmy G to this list
You hope
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@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.
Add Jimmy G to this list
You hope
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.
Add Jimmy G to this list
You hope
I do. He definitely fits into that group though. It's already been reported since the Wentz trade that Colts are interested.
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The colts have a 2 and a pair of 3s then 4 day 3 picks which include a pair of 7s.
Unless the 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit I just don't see the colts having the draft capital. I know it's the most important position on the field and all but assuming the 49ers are expecting a day 2 picks then I think the colts are better off with one of the free agents and the draft pick.
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The colts have a 2 and a pair of 3s then 4 day 3 picks which include a pair of 7s.
Unless the 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit I just don't see the colts having the draft capital. I know it's the most important position on the field and all but assuming the 49ers are expecting a day 2 picks then I think the colts are better off with one of the free agents and the draft pick.
@cyclops I would suggest 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit because they will want the cap space to sign free agents to make use of Lance's cheap rookie salary. Competition (Saints? Steelers?) may drive the price up but Jimmy is currently recovering from surgery and is injury prone so with Colts able to also include draft picks for 2023 I see them as a contender to trade for Jimmy.
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@cyclops I would suggest 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit because they will want the cap space to sign free agents to make use of Lance's cheap rookie salary. Competition (Saints? Steelers?) may drive the price up but Jimmy is currently recovering from surgery and is injury prone so with Colts able to also include draft picks for 2023 I see them as a contender to trade for Jimmy.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops I would suggest 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit because they will want the cap space to sign free agents to make use of Lance's cheap rookie salary. Competition (Saints? Steelers?) may drive the price up but Jimmy is currently recovering from surgery and is injury prone so with Colts able to also include draft picks for 2023 I see them as a contender to trade for Jimmy.
Yeah that's a fair point. I wonder if the 49ers are regretting the trade for Lance in light of the Wilson trade, although the Seahawks would surely have never allowed Wilson to go to a direct rival.
