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    #1176

    Wenz is good enough to trade for, not good enough to keep.

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      https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1501632429387309059

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      • DiceD Dice

        https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1501632429387309059

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        @dice that seems entirely fair

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          Carson Wentz going back to the NFC East. He's off to Washington for two 3rd round picks.

          This obviously puts Colts in the hunt for a QB.

          Wentz is an upgrade for Washington but he's been traded twice in 12 months.

          He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
          You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.

          NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure 🙂

          https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-62-starting-qbs-of-the-2021-nfl-season

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          @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
          You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.
          NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure

          Yeah. You would think Colts have some plan in place to replace him so will be interesting to see what they do (trade for Jimmy G, trade for Carr, trade for Cousins, trade for DeShaun Watson?).

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
            You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.
            NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure

            Yeah. You would think Colts have some plan in place to replace him so will be interesting to see what they do (trade for Jimmy G, trade for Carr, trade for Cousins, trade for DeShaun Watson?).

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            @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
            You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.
            NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure

            Yeah. You would think Colts have some plan in place to replace him so will be interesting to see what they do (trade for Jimmy G, trade for Carr, trade for Cousins, trade for DeShaun Watson?).

            the Colts are a nice destination. They were only a monumental fuck up from post-season football last year.

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              actually i take that back

              Why in teh fuck, as a decent QB, would you voluntarily move to the AFC?

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                The bigger problem the Colts have is no first round pick this year so they'll struggle to put together a good draft package. This year's crop of QBs in the draft also don't look like they're ready to start in the NFL. They basically have to look at free agency. So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates. Honestly I'd go for Bridgewater. Colts run game and defence is solid and Bridgewater is the kind of safe QB that can't win games by himself but also won't throw them away. Then they can look to draft a QB on day 2 or 3 of the draft and give him a year or two to develop behind Bridgewater.

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                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                  The bigger problem the Colts have is no first round pick this year so they'll struggle to put together a good draft package. This year's crop of QBs in the draft also don't look like they're ready to start in the NFL. They basically have to look at free agency. So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates. Honestly I'd go for Bridgewater. Colts run game and defence is solid and Bridgewater is the kind of safe QB that can't win games by himself but also won't throw them away. Then they can look to draft a QB on day 2 or 3 of the draft and give him a year or two to develop behind Bridgewater.

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                  @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                  So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                  Add Jimmy G to this list

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                    Add Jimmy G to this list

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                    @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                    Add Jimmy G to this list

                    You hope

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                      @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                      So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                      Add Jimmy G to this list

                      You hope

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                      @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                      @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                      @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                      So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                      Add Jimmy G to this list

                      You hope

                      I do. He definitely fits into that group though. It's already been reported since the Wentz trade that Colts are interested.

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                        The colts have a 2 and a pair of 3s then 4 day 3 picks which include a pair of 7s.

                        Unless the 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit I just don't see the colts having the draft capital. I know it's the most important position on the field and all but assuming the 49ers are expecting a day 2 picks then I think the colts are better off with one of the free agents and the draft pick.

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                        • CyclopsC Cyclops

                          The colts have a 2 and a pair of 3s then 4 day 3 picks which include a pair of 7s.

                          Unless the 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit I just don't see the colts having the draft capital. I know it's the most important position on the field and all but assuming the 49ers are expecting a day 2 picks then I think the colts are better off with one of the free agents and the draft pick.

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                          @cyclops I would suggest 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit because they will want the cap space to sign free agents to make use of Lance's cheap rookie salary. Competition (Saints? Steelers?) may drive the price up but Jimmy is currently recovering from surgery and is injury prone so with Colts able to also include draft picks for 2023 I see them as a contender to trade for Jimmy.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @cyclops I would suggest 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit because they will want the cap space to sign free agents to make use of Lance's cheap rookie salary. Competition (Saints? Steelers?) may drive the price up but Jimmy is currently recovering from surgery and is injury prone so with Colts able to also include draft picks for 2023 I see them as a contender to trade for Jimmy.

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                            @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                            @cyclops I would suggest 49ers are desperate to clear the cap hit because they will want the cap space to sign free agents to make use of Lance's cheap rookie salary. Competition (Saints? Steelers?) may drive the price up but Jimmy is currently recovering from surgery and is injury prone so with Colts able to also include draft picks for 2023 I see them as a contender to trade for Jimmy.

                            Yeah that's a fair point. I wonder if the 49ers are regretting the trade for Lance in light of the Wilson trade, although the Seahawks would surely have never allowed Wilson to go to a direct rival.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                              Add Jimmy G to this list

                              You hope

                              I do. He definitely fits into that group though. It's already been reported since the Wentz trade that Colts are interested.

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                              @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                              Add Jimmy G to this list

                              You hope

                              I do. He definitely fits into that group though. It's already been reported since the Wentz trade that Colts are interested.

                              The guy has his limitations. But he got close to winning a SB. And apparently he's a great locker room guy

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                              • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                The bigger problem the Colts have is no first round pick this year so they'll struggle to put together a good draft package. This year's crop of QBs in the draft also don't look like they're ready to start in the NFL. They basically have to look at free agency. So Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates. Honestly I'd go for Bridgewater. Colts run game and defence is solid and Bridgewater is the kind of safe QB that can't win games by himself but also won't throw them away. Then they can look to draft a QB on day 2 or 3 of the draft and give him a year or two to develop behind Bridgewater.

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                                @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                Trubisky, Mariota, Winston and Bridgewater look like the best candidates.

                                I'd take Jimmy over all those guys and Wentz too

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                                  Deshaun Watson not facing criminal charges.

                                  Teams will come knocking, but who? Steelers? Colts? Seahawks? Panthers? Bucs? Browns?
                                  I wouldn't be surprised if the Commanders make a call and trade Wentz + picks for Watson.

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                                    Deshaun Watson not facing criminal charges.

                                    Teams will come knocking, but who? Steelers? Colts? Seahawks? Panthers? Bucs? Browns?
                                    I wouldn't be surprised if the Commanders make a call and trade Wentz + picks for Watson.

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                                    @mimic said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                    Deshaun Watson not facing criminal charges.

                                    Teams will come knocking, but who? Steelers? Colts? Seahawks? Panthers? Bucs? Browns?
                                    I wouldn't be surprised if the Commanders make a call and trade Wentz + picks for Watson.

                                    There will be lots of suitors

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                                      After watching the Broncos pick up Mr Unlimited, the Chargers are making moves too.

                                      Khalil Mack going to the Chargers (for a 2nd and 6th), teaming up with Bosa :astonished_face:

                                      And rumours have it that the Chargers aren't done yet. Sounds like they're signing a big name in the secondary. JC Jackson? Tyrann Mathieu? James Bradberry?

                                      They can get all those pieces to stop the QB play in their division, but it all means nothing if they don't fix their run defence.

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                                        Dice
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                                        Tom Brady unretires.

                                        https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1503147141795045378

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                                        • DiceD Dice

                                          Tom Brady unretires.

                                          https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1503147141795045378

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                                          @dice said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          Tom Brady unretires.

                                          https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1503147141795045378

                                          Up there with Kelly Slater was one of the All time greats across all sports

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