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  • TimT Tim

    LOL, better get Bridge, Ennor, Havili, Mo'unga, Blackadder, Moody, Bower, and Taylor in the squad as soon as possible, we've got games to lose against Ireland!

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    LOL, better get Bridge, Ennor, Havili, Mo'unga, Blackadder, Moody, Bower, and Taylor in the squad as soon as possible, we've got games to lose against Ireland!

    That’s the way look on the bright side
    We have Foster I love cream buns coaching.

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    • A African Monkey

      @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

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      @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

      @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

      Level pegging with Eklund.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

        @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

        Level pegging with Eklund.

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        @bones Eklund's never gonna overtake any of these hookers but yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.

        He's a bit like Coltman and used to throw like him but improved in that area where as Coltman never did.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          NZ Form Team so far:

          15 Barrett
          14 Telea
          13 Ioane
          12 TUJ
          11 Rayasi
          10 Perofeta
          9 Smith
          8 Savea
          7 Cane
          6 Sowakula
          5 Goodhue
          4 Vaii
          3 Mafileo
          2 Taukei'aho
          1 Hodgman

          Hahaha

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          #135

          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

          @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          NZ Form Team so far:

          15 Barrett
          14 Telea
          13 Ioane
          12 TUJ
          11 Rayasi
          10 Perofeta
          9 Smith
          8 Savea
          7 Cane
          6 Sowakula
          5 Goodhue
          4 Vaii
          3 Mafileo
          2 Taukei'aho
          1 Hodgman

          Hahaha

          Yeah ... think I was @Tim -ed

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          • BonesB Bones

            @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

            @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

            Level pegging with Eklund.

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            @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

            @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

            Level pegging with Eklund.

            I'm more concerned about what they do on the field than in the showers

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            • boobooB booboo

              @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

              4 Vaii

              Funny. Am a fanboi but didn't see him standing out.

              Still got 30 min to go on Chiefs v Sith but he hasn't stood out to me so far.

              P.S. Retallick did some good things early on the game.

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              @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

              @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

              4 Vaii

              Funny. Am a fanboi but didn't see him standing out.

              Still got 30 min to go on Chiefs v Sith but he hasn't stood out to me so far.

              P.S. Retallick did some good things early on the game.

              I thought Vaii had a great game. One of those lock performances like Sam W used to churn out where he didn't stand out (one outrageous offload aside) but if you removed him from the equation the pack would be much weaker. I'm happy with how he's coming along.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

                Level pegging with Eklund.

                I'm more concerned about what they do on the field than in the showers

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                @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                @tim I'd have Taylor as 4th choice behind Taukeiaho, Aumua and Coles (in that order).

                Level pegging with Eklund.

                I'm more concerned about what they do on the field than in the showers

                Methinks thou dost protest too much

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                • TimT Tim

                  NZ Form Team so far:

                  15 Barrett
                  14 Telea
                  13 Ioane
                  12 TUJ
                  11 Rayasi
                  10 Perofeta
                  9 Smith
                  8 Savea
                  7 Cane
                  6 Sowakula
                  5 Goodhue
                  4 Vaii
                  3 Mafileo
                  2 Taukei'aho
                  1 Hodgman

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                  @tim Is this a dig at Crusaders form? Reece over Rayasi surely. Bailyn and several props may have claims too.

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                  • A ARHS

                    @tim Is this a dig at Crusaders form? Reece over Rayasi surely. Bailyn and several props may have claims too.

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                    @arhs I was just joking around.

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                    • A African Monkey

                      @bones Eklund's never gonna overtake any of these hookers but yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.

                      He's a bit like Coltman and used to throw like him but improved in that area where as Coltman never did.

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                      @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @bones Eklund's never gonna overtake any of these hookers but yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.

                      He's a bit like Coltman and used to throw like him but improved in that area where as Coltman never did.

                      Eklund just needs to grow a fluffy beard, as apparently that's all Coltman needed to get a black jersey.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @bones Eklund's never gonna overtake any of these hookers but yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.

                        He's a bit like Coltman and used to throw like him but improved in that area where as Coltman never did.

                        Eklund just needs to grow a fluffy beard, as apparently that's all Coltman needed to get a black jersey.

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                        @nepia Another one of Hansen's outstanding selections towards the end of his tenure.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @bones Eklund's never gonna overtake any of these hookers but yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.

                          He's a bit like Coltman and used to throw like him but improved in that area where as Coltman never did.

                          Eklund just needs to grow a fluffy beard, as apparently that's all Coltman needed to get a black jersey.

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                          @nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @african-monkey said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @bones Eklund's never gonna overtake any of these hookers but yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.

                          He's a bit like Coltman and used to throw like him but improved in that area where as Coltman never did.

                          Eklund just needs to grow a fluffy beard, as apparently that's all Coltman needed to get a black jersey.

                          His throwing was always bad, but there were one or two seasons where he was pretty much a second openside flanker - he'd get a ridiculous number of turnovers. His running game wasn't too bad then either. If he could've improved with his throwing and maintained that form, he would've been pretty handy option

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                            Machpants
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                            A bit of a nothing article from AAP that's on RugbyPass. But really scrapping the bullshit for this starting line "After 12 Super Rugby titles, the Crusaders often are a reliable bellwether for the state of New Zealand rugby."

                            ABs period of real domination 2010~16, 0 Crusaders wins, ABs turn to shit 2017+ 5 Crusaders wins. You could start from 05 on, but that side were mentally weak, and needed a terrible loss in 07 to turn them around. 09 was also annus horribilus - lots of Crusaders wins there!

                            That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/concerning-signs-for-new-zealand-rugby/

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                            • M Machpants

                              A bit of a nothing article from AAP that's on RugbyPass. But really scrapping the bullshit for this starting line "After 12 Super Rugby titles, the Crusaders often are a reliable bellwether for the state of New Zealand rugby."

                              ABs period of real domination 2010~16, 0 Crusaders wins, ABs turn to shit 2017+ 5 Crusaders wins. You could start from 05 on, but that side were mentally weak, and needed a terrible loss in 07 to turn them around. 09 was also annus horribilus - lots of Crusaders wins there!

                              That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/concerning-signs-for-new-zealand-rugby/

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                              @machpants I'm hoping that for the first time in 5-6 years the Crusaders AB's are pacing themselves. Taylor has previously played like a man possessed during Super rugby only to then limp through test matches. Whitelock doesn't appear to be putting it all the line at the moment. Mo'unga looks only slightly better than Garden-Bachop etc.

                              It's what I'm hoping anyway.

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                              • M Machpants

                                A bit of a nothing article from AAP that's on RugbyPass. But really scrapping the bullshit for this starting line "After 12 Super Rugby titles, the Crusaders often are a reliable bellwether for the state of New Zealand rugby."

                                ABs period of real domination 2010~16, 0 Crusaders wins, ABs turn to shit 2017+ 5 Crusaders wins. You could start from 05 on, but that side were mentally weak, and needed a terrible loss in 07 to turn them around. 09 was also annus horribilus - lots of Crusaders wins there!

                                That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/concerning-signs-for-new-zealand-rugby/

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                                • ToddyT Toddy

                                  @machpants I'm hoping that for the first time in 5-6 years the Crusaders AB's are pacing themselves. Taylor has previously played like a man possessed during Super rugby only to then limp through test matches. Whitelock doesn't appear to be putting it all the line at the moment. Mo'unga looks only slightly better than Garden-Bachop etc.

                                  It's what I'm hoping anyway.

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                                  @toddy said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @machpants I'm hoping that for the first time in 5-6 years the Crusaders AB's are pacing themselves. Taylor has previously played like a man possessed during Super rugby only to then limp through test matches. Whitelock doesn't appear to be putting it all the line at the moment. Mo'unga looks only slightly better than Garden-Bachop etc.

                                  It's what I'm hoping anyway.

                                  I don't care that they are being shown up. I think it is good for the ABs (if the selectors take notice)

                                  Other sides are playing a more physical style against them and not allowing their weak runners and 'soaking' tacklers any leeway.

                                  If this means that the ABs ditch the Bridges, Havilis, Taylors and Moodys then all the better.

                                  Their real weakness is the loose forwards though. Lots of very busy but non-dominant players.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    A bit of a nothing article from AAP that's on RugbyPass. But really scrapping the bullshit for this starting line "After 12 Super Rugby titles, the Crusaders often are a reliable bellwether for the state of New Zealand rugby."

                                    ABs period of real domination 2010~16, 0 Crusaders wins, ABs turn to shit 2017+ 5 Crusaders wins. You could start from 05 on, but that side were mentally weak, and needed a terrible loss in 07 to turn them around. 09 was also annus horribilus - lots of Crusaders wins there!

                                    That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/concerning-signs-for-new-zealand-rugby/

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                                    @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                    How can you lose a series when each side won one game, lost one game and drew one game? If anything the All Blacks were clear winners of the series given the following a la 20/20 cricket tie breakers
                                    Points scored 66 Points conceded 54
                                    Ties scored 5 Tries conceded 3
                                    Conversions 4 Conversions conceded 2

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                      How can you lose a series when each side won one game, lost one game and drew one game? If anything the All Blacks were clear winners of the series given the following a la 20/20 cricket tie breakers
                                      Points scored 66 Points conceded 54
                                      Ties scored 5 Tries conceded 3
                                      Conversions 4 Conversions conceded 2

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                                      @higgins said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                      How can you lose a series when each side won one game, lost one game and drew one game? If anything the All Blacks were clear winners of the series given the following a la 20/20 cricket tie breakers
                                      Points scored 66 Points conceded 54
                                      Ties scored 5 Tries conceded 3
                                      Conversions 4 Conversions conceded 2

                                      Because it was in NZ and we didn't win, that's a loss as far as I'm concerned. The Lions were pretty shit, and turned up so late and with so little prep. But we had a dumb red card, then a dumber decision to put Savea back on the wing where he shelled a couple of almost cert tries, and choked like '07.

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @higgins said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                        How can you lose a series when each side won one game, lost one game and drew one game? If anything the All Blacks were clear winners of the series given the following a la 20/20 cricket tie breakers
                                        Points scored 66 Points conceded 54
                                        Ties scored 5 Tries conceded 3
                                        Conversions 4 Conversions conceded 2

                                        Because it was in NZ and we didn't win, that's a loss as far as I'm concerned. The Lions were pretty shit, and turned up so late and with so little prep. But we had a dumb red card, then a dumber decision to put Savea back on the wing where he shelled a couple of almost cert tries, and choked like '07.

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                                        @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @higgins said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                        How can you lose a series when each side won one game, lost one game and drew one game? If anything the All Blacks were clear winners of the series given the following a la 20/20 cricket tie breakers
                                        Points scored 66 Points conceded 54
                                        Ties scored 5 Tries conceded 3
                                        Conversions 4 Conversions conceded 2

                                        Because it was in NZ and we didn't win, that's a loss as far as I'm concerned. The Lions were pretty shit, and turned up so late and with so little prep. But we had a dumb red card, then a dumber decision to put Savea back on the wing where he shelled a couple of almost cert tries, and choked like '07.

                                        Let's not forget the idiotic play at the end of test 3 (notwithstanding the "deal")

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          A bit of a nothing article from AAP that's on RugbyPass. But really scrapping the bullshit for this starting line "After 12 Super Rugby titles, the Crusaders often are a reliable bellwether for the state of New Zealand rugby."

                                          ABs period of real domination 2010~16, 0 Crusaders wins, ABs turn to shit 2017+ 5 Crusaders wins. You could start from 05 on, but that side were mentally weak, and needed a terrible loss in 07 to turn them around. 09 was also annus horribilus - lots of Crusaders wins there!

                                          That's just a bullshit line, concerning signs have been around since we stuck with Hansen for an extra 2 years, lost the series to the Lions, and signed/resigned Foster!

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/concerning-signs-for-new-zealand-rugby/

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                                          @machpants the lack of research in some rugby pass articles is bewildering. Click bait is all it is.

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