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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Never a dull moment in the NFL

    I wonder if Packers are eyeing a WR in the draft - supposedly this draft is stacked with quality WRs

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504601053790195714

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    @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    Never a dull moment in the NFL

    I wonder if Packers are eyeing a WR in the draft - supposedly this draft is stacked with quality WRs

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504601053790195714

    Rodgers isn't going to be happy they traded his favourite receiver. Unless he knew and gave it the green light, which seems unlikely considering how tight they were

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    • canefanC canefan

      @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      Never a dull moment in the NFL

      I wonder if Packers are eyeing a WR in the draft - supposedly this draft is stacked with quality WRs

      https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504601053790195714

      Rodgers isn't going to be happy they traded his favourite receiver. Unless he knew and gave it the green light, which seems unlikely considering how tight they were

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      #1216

      @canefan

      Apparently Rodgers knew and the Packers were willing to match the deal. Carr is Adams college qb and apparently they're still tight.

      I wonder if the Packers go after juju now

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        Deshaun Watson is a one man destabilising machine

        I read today that the Falcons flirting with him has really pissed Matt Ryan

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          Apparently Browns and Panthers are out of the running for Watson and it's down to Saints and Falcons.

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            The NFL do year-round coverage like no other.

            Superbowl, followed by retirements/trading, then drafts, then into camps and pre-season, and then the season. It's ridiculously media heavy

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Apparently Browns and Panthers are out of the running for Watson and it's down to Saints and Falcons.

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              @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

              Apparently Browns and Panthers are out of the running for Watson and it's down to Saints and Falcons.

              So they lose Mayfield, already got rid of OBJ, so much for the golden era. The Browns are cursed

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                if players could stop getting traded to our division the would be excellent cheers

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Apparently Browns and Panthers are out of the running for Watson and it's down to Saints and Falcons.

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                  @kiwimurph His head says Saints, but his heart says Falcons.

                  Word on the street is that he's going to the Falcons.
                  The hold up on the decision seems to be due to the Falcons, moving money/Matty Ice etc..

                  But as we've seen many times this week, he may change his mind.

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                    #1223

                    LOL!

                    After ruling out the Browns, Deshaun Watson has chosen the Browns

                    5 year $230mil (fully guaranteed)

                    **Deal hasn't been finalised yet, but it is being work on

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                      This jersey needs updating.

                      https://dailysnark.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/InfamousBrownsJersey.jpg

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                      • mimicM mimic

                        LOL!

                        After ruling out the Browns, Deshaun Watson has chosen the Browns

                        5 year $230mil (fully guaranteed)

                        **Deal hasn't been finalised yet, but it is being work on

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                        @mimic said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                        LOL!

                        After ruling out the Browns, Deshaun Watson has chosen the Browns

                        5 year $230mil (fully guaranteed)

                        **Deal hasn't been finalised yet, but it is being work on

                        I have a feeling that contract backfires.

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                          3 firsts and change. That's a lot of draft capital but the Browns roster is pretty good and if they're competing they'll be able to attract the top free agents.

                          230m for 5 years is expensive but doesn't reset the QB market. The fully guaranteed part might. I rate Watson and think he's a top 10 QB and an long as he keeps producing at that level the Browns will be happy. But there's no off ramp for them so if he struggles to adjust after a year off or if his suspension is worse than expected then they're dead.

                          AFC North catching up with the West. Burrow, Lamar and now Watson. Meanwhile Steelers have Rudolph and Trubisky in a competition... Might be a tough few years ahead for the Steelers.

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                          • CyclopsC Cyclops

                            3 firsts and change. That's a lot of draft capital but the Browns roster is pretty good and if they're competing they'll be able to attract the top free agents.

                            230m for 5 years is expensive but doesn't reset the QB market. The fully guaranteed part might. I rate Watson and think he's a top 10 QB and an long as he keeps producing at that level the Browns will be happy. But there's no off ramp for them so if he struggles to adjust after a year off or if his suspension is worse than expected then they're dead.

                            AFC North catching up with the West. Burrow, Lamar and now Watson. Meanwhile Steelers have Rudolph and Trubisky in a competition... Might be a tough few years ahead for the Steelers.

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                            @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                            230m for 5 years is expensive but doesn't reset the QB market. The fully guaranteed part might. I rate Watson and think he's a top 10 QB and an long as he keeps producing at that level the Browns will be happy. But there's no off ramp for them so if he struggles to adjust after a year off or if his suspension is worse than expected then they're dead.

                            The QB market is borked. Good QB have all the power - GM just have to take a punt, mortgage the farm, and bet it all on a player. Imagine how much Brady could get if he wanted the cash? It'd be nuts.

                            Remember, the cap resets shortly, and with betting money, $45M a year for a reasonable QB could soon be a bargain. Provided he doesn't get RG3'd running the ball

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                              Just popped into the Cleveland reddit and they don't seem too happy about this.

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                                Okay so the Watson deal might be worse than I thought. His base salary this year is $1 million and he gets a 45m signing bonus. That means his cap hit this year is 10m. The low base salary might be the browns managing their cap or in might be because he's expecting a suspension and his base salary is pro rated for games missed.

                                I was expecting a fully guaranteed 5 year deal to be relatively evenly spread. But with the law hit this year than means the other 4 years his cap hit is going to be 55m. Plus if the trade him the signing bonus will all be charged at once rather than prorated across the life of the deal so even if they try to trade him they'll have to eat at least 9m per year remaining dead cap.

                                Yes the salary cap is projected to go up and yes there is a big new tv deal coming, but that hit is the biggest is the league. And making it fully guaranteed makes it impossible to get out.

                                The full structure isn't out yet, the will be interesting. I suspect it's going to be backloaded further so I wouldn't be surprised if the final years cap hits are over 60m. This deal is really a commitment for 6 or 7 years because they're going to have to extend him to spread the cap hits over the last couple of years. (Although that can probably be done with void years if he's below average).

                                If Watson is the 10th best QB in the league, the Browns might actually regret this deal. I think he needs to be top 5 for them to be clearly winning.

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                                  JuJu Smith-Schuster to the Chiefs

                                  The AFC West continues to be an arms race

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                                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                    Okay so the Watson deal might be worse than I thought. His base salary this year is $1 million and he gets a 45m signing bonus. That means his cap hit this year is 10m. The low base salary might be the browns managing their cap or in might be because he's expecting a suspension and his base salary is pro rated for games missed.

                                    I was expecting a fully guaranteed 5 year deal to be relatively evenly spread. But with the law hit this year than means the other 4 years his cap hit is going to be 55m. Plus if the trade him the signing bonus will all be charged at once rather than prorated across the life of the deal so even if they try to trade him they'll have to eat at least 9m per year remaining dead cap.

                                    Yes the salary cap is projected to go up and yes there is a big new tv deal coming, but that hit is the biggest is the league. And making it fully guaranteed makes it impossible to get out.

                                    The full structure isn't out yet, the will be interesting. I suspect it's going to be backloaded further so I wouldn't be surprised if the final years cap hits are over 60m. This deal is really a commitment for 6 or 7 years because they're going to have to extend him to spread the cap hits over the last couple of years. (Although that can probably be done with void years if he's below average).

                                    If Watson is the 10th best QB in the league, the Browns might actually regret this deal. I think he needs to be top 5 for them to be clearly winning.

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                                    @cyclops yep, it's betting the farm. QB economics are screwed... And even with that deal they nearly missed out.

                                    You don't land a top ten quarterback without it I don't think

                                    Edit: good write-up by the way

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      Always a very knowledgeable guy.

                                      https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33541834/long-nfl-reporter-john-clayton-dies-67

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                                        @bovidae said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                        Always a very knowledgeable guy.

                                        https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33541834/long-nfl-reporter-john-clayton-dies-67

                                        I was quite surprised. He's younger than I thought. Always seemed like a knowledgeable guy

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                                          More QB movement

                                          Matt Ryan traded to the Colts for a 3rd round pick.

                                          Falcons sign Marcus Mariota.

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