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EPL 2021 / 2022

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  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

    @canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

    @dogmeat rebounding back into the prem is tough. If Fulham do it that will be a significant achievement

    All evidence suggests that bouncing back into the prem is much easier than getting your first promotion. You just have to bounce back within the time the parachute payments last or all your players get raided. Hence why Bournemouth are likely to go up this season.

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    @kiwipie Totally right - unless you bankrupted yourself getting promoted in the first place - which has happened to a few clubs and consequently have to let your best players go.

    @canefane Your comment prompted me to check. Fulham have spent 15 seasons in the Prem this century. Only 10 clubs have managed more - the ever presents plus Man City, Newcastle, West Ham, Villa.

    Fulham have spent more time in the top tier than Southampton or Leicester - without ever finishing higher than 7th.

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      @kiwipie Totally right - unless you bankrupted yourself getting promoted in the first place - which has happened to a few clubs and consequently have to let your best players go.

      @canefane Your comment prompted me to check. Fulham have spent 15 seasons in the Prem this century. Only 10 clubs have managed more - the ever presents plus Man City, Newcastle, West Ham, Villa.

      Fulham have spent more time in the top tier than Southampton or Leicester - without ever finishing higher than 7th.

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      @dogmeat they were a fixture during the Al Fayed years

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        So there have been 50 clubs that have featured in the EPL.

        12 of the 22 Founder members are in this years comp. Six of them have been ever present. Eight teams have never been relegated. Three are currently in League Two and 8 are in League One

        How many of the 50 can you name?

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          What would be interesting to know is which teams have spent the longest in the Championship (or the old Div 2) without ever gaining promotion.

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          • dogmeatD dogmeat

            So there have been 50 clubs that have featured in the EPL.

            12 of the 22 Founder members are in this years comp. Six of them have been ever present. Eight teams have never been relegated. Three are currently in League Two and 8 are in League One

            How many of the 50 can you name?

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            @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            So there have been 50 clubs that have featured in the EPL.

            12 of the 22 Founder members are in this years comp. Six of them have been ever present. Eight teams have never been relegated. Three are currently in League Two and 8 are in League One

            How many of the 50 can you name?

            I'll have a go at the more obscure ones.

            Barnsley, Bradford, Wimbledon, Portsmouth, Swindon, Oldham (were they still there at the start?) and of the ones currently struggling Wigan, Charlton, Bolton, Ipswich, Sunderland. Did Luton play in the first season or did they get relegated (like Notts County) in the season before - those are the only 2 I can think of who had a chance to drop out of the league altogether.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              What would be interesting to know is which teams have spent the longest in the Championship (or the old Div 2) without ever gaining promotion.

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              @bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

              What would be interesting to know is which teams have spent the longest in the Championship (or the old Div 2) without ever gaining promotion.

              Of the current batch, Forest & Preston have been there a while without going up (or down)

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              • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                So there have been 50 clubs that have featured in the EPL.

                12 of the 22 Founder members are in this years comp. Six of them have been ever present. Eight teams have never been relegated. Three are currently in League Two and 8 are in League One

                How many of the 50 can you name?

                I'll have a go at the more obscure ones.

                Barnsley, Bradford, Wimbledon, Portsmouth, Swindon, Oldham (were they still there at the start?) and of the ones currently struggling Wigan, Charlton, Bolton, Ipswich, Sunderland. Did Luton play in the first season or did they get relegated (like Notts County) in the season before - those are the only 2 I can think of who had a chance to drop out of the league altogether.

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                @kiwipie all correct bar Luton who did indeed go down with County. Swindon were there the first two seasons.

                Forest have had three spells in Premiership but haven't featured since 98-99

                Preston haven't graced Tier One of English football since 1961. They have actually spent the majority of the last 50 years in the bottom two leagues even having to reapply in 1986. They have only been in the Championship since 2015-16. they are the only First Division Champions yet to feature in the Premier League.

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                  #358

                  I’ll have a go
                  Ever Presents

                  1. Totenham Hotspur
                  2. Manchester United
                  3. Chelsea
                  4. Arsenal
                  5. Liverpool
                  6. Everton - courtesy of Sparky

                  Others

                  1. Fulham FC
                  2. West Ham Utd
                  3. Wimbledon
                  4. Watford
                  5. Reading
                  6. Queens Park Rangers
                  7. Brentford - never been relegated
                  8. Crystal Palace
                  9. Charlton Athletic
                  10. Bournemouth -courtesy of Bovidae
                  11. Barnsley - courtesy of KP
                  12. Derby County
                  13. Coventry City
                  14. West Bromwich Albion
                  15. Aston Villa
                  16. Birmingham City
                  17. Nottingham Forest
                  18. Leicester City
                  19. Stoke City
                  20. Wolverhampton Wanderers
                  21. Manchester City
                  22. Sheffield Wednesday
                  23. Sheffield United
                  24. Wigan Athletic
                  25. Leeds United
                  26. Newcastle United
                  27. Middlesborough
                  28. Burnley
                  29. Bolton Wanderers
                  30. Blackpool
                  31. Blackburn Rovers
                  32. Hull City
                  33. Portsmouth
                  34. Brighton
                  35. Southampton
                  36. Ipswich Town
                  37. Norwich City
                  38. Swansea City
                  39. Cardiff City
                  40. Oldham Athletic - courtesy of Sparky
                  41. Sunderland - courtesy of Sparky
                  42. Bradford City - courtesy of Sparky
                  43. Swindon Town - courtesy of KP
                  44. Huddersfield Town - courtesy of Bovidae

                  DISQUALIFIED
                  45. Millwall - courtesy of dogmeat

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                  • HigginsH Higgins

                    I’ll have a go
                    Ever Presents

                    1. Totenham Hotspur
                    2. Manchester United
                    3. Chelsea
                    4. Arsenal
                    5. Liverpool
                    6. Everton - courtesy of Sparky

                    Others

                    1. Fulham FC
                    2. West Ham Utd
                    3. Wimbledon
                    4. Watford
                    5. Reading
                    6. Queens Park Rangers
                    7. Brentford - never been relegated
                    8. Crystal Palace
                    9. Charlton Athletic
                    10. Bournemouth -courtesy of Bovidae
                    11. Barnsley - courtesy of KP
                    12. Derby County
                    13. Coventry City
                    14. West Bromwich Albion
                    15. Aston Villa
                    16. Birmingham City
                    17. Nottingham Forest
                    18. Leicester City
                    19. Stoke City
                    20. Wolverhampton Wanderers
                    21. Manchester City
                    22. Sheffield Wednesday
                    23. Sheffield United
                    24. Wigan Athletic
                    25. Leeds United
                    26. Newcastle United
                    27. Middlesborough
                    28. Burnley
                    29. Bolton Wanderers
                    30. Blackpool
                    31. Blackburn Rovers
                    32. Hull City
                    33. Portsmouth
                    34. Brighton
                    35. Southampton
                    36. Ipswich Town
                    37. Norwich City
                    38. Swansea City
                    39. Cardiff City
                    40. Oldham Athletic - courtesy of Sparky
                    41. Sunderland - courtesy of Sparky
                    42. Bradford City - courtesy of Sparky
                    43. Swindon Town - courtesy of KP
                    44. Huddersfield Town - courtesy of Bovidae

                    DISQUALIFIED
                    45. Millwall - courtesy of dogmeat

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                    #359

                    @higgins Everton has also been in the EPL from the start.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      What would be interesting to know is which teams have spent the longest in the Championship (or the old Div 2) without ever gaining promotion.

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                      @bovidae I reckon it's Plymouth Argyle. Certainly the biggest club from the biggest city never to have played at top level.

                      They have ben tier 3 champions 5 times have had six spells in Tier 2, once for 20 years (including WW2 They finished 4th in 1953, the closest they have ever come to promotion although they did also have a chance in 86 just outside the play-offs. They did get to the FA Cup semis in 1984

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                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                        @bovidae I reckon it's Plymouth Argyle. Certainly the biggest club from the biggest city never to have played at top level.

                        They have ben tier 3 champions 5 times have had six spells in Tier 2, once for 20 years (including WW2 They finished 4th in 1953, the closest they have ever come to promotion although they did also have a chance in 86 just outside the play-offs. They did get to the FA Cup semis in 1984

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                        @dogmeat Maybe one of the Bristol clubs might be there are well.

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                        • HigginsH Higgins

                          I’ll have a go
                          Ever Presents

                          1. Totenham Hotspur
                          2. Manchester United
                          3. Chelsea
                          4. Arsenal
                          5. Liverpool
                          6. Everton - courtesy of Sparky

                          Others

                          1. Fulham FC
                          2. West Ham Utd
                          3. Wimbledon
                          4. Watford
                          5. Reading
                          6. Queens Park Rangers
                          7. Brentford - never been relegated
                          8. Crystal Palace
                          9. Charlton Athletic
                          10. Bournemouth -courtesy of Bovidae
                          11. Barnsley - courtesy of KP
                          12. Derby County
                          13. Coventry City
                          14. West Bromwich Albion
                          15. Aston Villa
                          16. Birmingham City
                          17. Nottingham Forest
                          18. Leicester City
                          19. Stoke City
                          20. Wolverhampton Wanderers
                          21. Manchester City
                          22. Sheffield Wednesday
                          23. Sheffield United
                          24. Wigan Athletic
                          25. Leeds United
                          26. Newcastle United
                          27. Middlesborough
                          28. Burnley
                          29. Bolton Wanderers
                          30. Blackpool
                          31. Blackburn Rovers
                          32. Hull City
                          33. Portsmouth
                          34. Brighton
                          35. Southampton
                          36. Ipswich Town
                          37. Norwich City
                          38. Swansea City
                          39. Cardiff City
                          40. Oldham Athletic - courtesy of Sparky
                          41. Sunderland - courtesy of Sparky
                          42. Bradford City - courtesy of Sparky
                          43. Swindon Town - courtesy of KP
                          44. Huddersfield Town - courtesy of Bovidae

                          DISQUALIFIED
                          45. Millwall - courtesy of dogmeat

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                          @higgins

                          Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

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                          • HigginsH Higgins

                            @dogmeat Maybe one of the Bristol clubs might be there are well.

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                            @higgins Nope - Top effort so far but while Bristol City are possibly the biggest club not to feature (havent been in Tier one since 70's) Rovers haven't come close to Tier 1 and even dropped down to the Conference at one stage

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                              @higgins

                              Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

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                              @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                              @higgins

                              Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

                              Thanks, how could I have forgotten Sunderland

                              Just thought of another possibility but can't remember their name but they play in vertical blue and white stripes from memory and come from one of those old towns up north somewhere.

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                                @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                @higgins

                                Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

                                Thanks, how could I have forgotten Sunderland

                                Just thought of another possibility but can't remember their name but they play in vertical blue and white stripes from memory and come from one of those old towns up north somewhere.

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                                @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

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                                  Picard's favourite team - Huddersfield Town

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                                    @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

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                                    @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

                                    Damn, I have scratched them from my list. What about Swindon, they were a speculative guess.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Picard's favourite team - Huddersfield Town

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                                      @bovidae I was just going to say that they are all Championship teams that were missing and recently relegated

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                                      • HigginsH Higgins

                                        @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                        @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

                                        Damn, I have scratched them from my list. What about Swindon, they were a speculative guess.

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                                        @higgins yeah Swindon plus Barnsley were guessed by KP

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                                        • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                          @bovidae I was just going to say that they are all Championship teams that were missing and recently relegated

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                                          Bournemouth is one of those

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