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EPL 2021 / 2022

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    What would be interesting to know is which teams have spent the longest in the Championship (or the old Div 2) without ever gaining promotion.

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    @bovidae I reckon it's Plymouth Argyle. Certainly the biggest club from the biggest city never to have played at top level.

    They have ben tier 3 champions 5 times have had six spells in Tier 2, once for 20 years (including WW2 They finished 4th in 1953, the closest they have ever come to promotion although they did also have a chance in 86 just outside the play-offs. They did get to the FA Cup semis in 1984

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      @bovidae I reckon it's Plymouth Argyle. Certainly the biggest club from the biggest city never to have played at top level.

      They have ben tier 3 champions 5 times have had six spells in Tier 2, once for 20 years (including WW2 They finished 4th in 1953, the closest they have ever come to promotion although they did also have a chance in 86 just outside the play-offs. They did get to the FA Cup semis in 1984

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      @dogmeat Maybe one of the Bristol clubs might be there are well.

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      • HigginsH Higgins

        I’ll have a go
        Ever Presents

        1. Totenham Hotspur
        2. Manchester United
        3. Chelsea
        4. Arsenal
        5. Liverpool
        6. Everton - courtesy of Sparky

        Others

        1. Fulham FC
        2. West Ham Utd
        3. Wimbledon
        4. Watford
        5. Reading
        6. Queens Park Rangers
        7. Brentford - never been relegated
        8. Crystal Palace
        9. Charlton Athletic
        10. Bournemouth -courtesy of Bovidae
        11. Barnsley - courtesy of KP
        12. Derby County
        13. Coventry City
        14. West Bromwich Albion
        15. Aston Villa
        16. Birmingham City
        17. Nottingham Forest
        18. Leicester City
        19. Stoke City
        20. Wolverhampton Wanderers
        21. Manchester City
        22. Sheffield Wednesday
        23. Sheffield United
        24. Wigan Athletic
        25. Leeds United
        26. Newcastle United
        27. Middlesborough
        28. Burnley
        29. Bolton Wanderers
        30. Blackpool
        31. Blackburn Rovers
        32. Hull City
        33. Portsmouth
        34. Brighton
        35. Southampton
        36. Ipswich Town
        37. Norwich City
        38. Swansea City
        39. Cardiff City
        40. Oldham Athletic - courtesy of Sparky
        41. Sunderland - courtesy of Sparky
        42. Bradford City - courtesy of Sparky
        43. Swindon Town - courtesy of KP
        44. Huddersfield Town - courtesy of Bovidae

        DISQUALIFIED
        45. Millwall - courtesy of dogmeat

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        @higgins

        Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @dogmeat Maybe one of the Bristol clubs might be there are well.

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          @higgins Nope - Top effort so far but while Bristol City are possibly the biggest club not to feature (havent been in Tier one since 70's) Rovers haven't come close to Tier 1 and even dropped down to the Conference at one stage

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            @higgins

            Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

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            @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            @higgins

            Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

            Thanks, how could I have forgotten Sunderland

            Just thought of another possibility but can't remember their name but they play in vertical blue and white stripes from memory and come from one of those old towns up north somewhere.

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

              @higgins

              Oldham Athletic, Bradford City and Sunderland have all been in the EPL at some point.

              Thanks, how could I have forgotten Sunderland

              Just thought of another possibility but can't remember their name but they play in vertical blue and white stripes from memory and come from one of those old towns up north somewhere.

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              @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

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                Picard's favourite team - Huddersfield Town

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                  @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

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                  @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

                  Damn, I have scratched them from my list. What about Swindon, they were a speculative guess.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Picard's favourite team - Huddersfield Town

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                    @bovidae I was just going to say that they are all Championship teams that were missing and recently relegated

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                    • HigginsH Higgins

                      @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                      @higgins OK It's quite difficult scanning through 50 guresses so only just noticed you have Millwall - which gets the buzzer I'm afraid.

                      Damn, I have scratched them from my list. What about Swindon, they were a speculative guess.

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                      @higgins yeah Swindon plus Barnsley were guessed by KP

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                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                        @bovidae I was just going to say that they are all Championship teams that were missing and recently relegated

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                        Bournemouth is one of those

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Picard's favourite team - Huddersfield Town

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                          @bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                          Picard's favourite team - Huddersfield Town

                          Yeah, that's them, they did not last long from memory. Maybe a couple or three seasons at best.

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                            Bournemouth is the last - well done guys.

                            I always miss Swindon. I always remember them but have a blank on the name of the town itself.

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                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_clubs

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                                Bournemouth is the last - well done guys.

                                I always miss Swindon. I always remember them but have a blank on the name of the town itself.

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                                @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                Bournemouth is the last - well done guys.

                                I always miss Swindon. I always remember them but have a blank on the name of the town itself.

                                Top roundabout in Swindon - not much else
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                                  I reckon Rochdale must be the most uneventful club in the league - barring losing an early League Cup final when nobody took it seriously. Joined Third Division North when it formed in 1921 then went into the 4th when the league went nationwide in 1959. Promoted from Div 4 to Div 3 (League 2 to 1) on 3 occasions but never lasting for long. Never made the 2nd tier or dropped out of the league. Any better offers?

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                                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_clubs

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                                    @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_clubs

                                    Luton the only team with a chance of becoming number 51 this season. The only other 2nd tier sides who haven't reached the EPL are Preston, Bristol City and Peterborough

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                                      @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_clubs

                                      Luton the only team with a chance of becoming number 51 this season. The only other 2nd tier sides who haven't reached the EPL are Preston, Bristol City and Peterborough

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                                      @kiwipie

                                      Luton seem well run and punch above their weight

                                      Is Kenilworth Rd EPL compliant?

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                                        @dogmeat

                                        Liverpool is a fantastic away side and has lots of firepower that can score from a number of different sources and ways.

                                        You are right that city are favourites, one thing that will be interesting is that City dont have to win the game. That may force them into a tactical change and mindset they arent used to which could allow Liverpool to take advantage.

                                        Saying that, Liverpool have some difficult matches outside of City so it would be a herculean effort if they do win the league

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                                        @dagrubster said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                        @dogmeat

                                        Liverpool is a fantastic away side and has lots of firepower that can score from a number of different sources and ways.

                                        You are right that city are favourites, one thing that will be interesting is that City dont have to win the game. That may force them into a tactical change and mindset they arent used to which could allow Liverpool to take advantage.

                                        Saying that, Liverpool have some difficult matches outside of City so it would be a herculean effort if they do win the league

                                        I think that match will peter out to a fairly boring draw as both teams will play not to lose - either 0-0 or 1-1 - and City will drop points elsewhere. Don't ask me where, but I think they will do so inadvertently after surviving that match and then focusing too much on the UCL

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                                          @dagrubster said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          @dogmeat

                                          Liverpool is a fantastic away side and has lots of firepower that can score from a number of different sources and ways.

                                          You are right that city are favourites, one thing that will be interesting is that City dont have to win the game. That may force them into a tactical change and mindset they arent used to which could allow Liverpool to take advantage.

                                          Saying that, Liverpool have some difficult matches outside of City so it would be a herculean effort if they do win the league

                                          I think that match will peter out to a fairly boring draw as both teams will play not to lose - either 0-0 or 1-1 - and City will drop points elsewhere. Don't ask me where, but I think they will do so inadvertently after surviving that match and then focusing too much on the UCL

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                                          @junior said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          @dagrubster said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          @dogmeat

                                          Liverpool is a fantastic away side and has lots of firepower that can score from a number of different sources and ways.

                                          You are right that city are favourites, one thing that will be interesting is that City dont have to win the game. That may force them into a tactical change and mindset they arent used to which could allow Liverpool to take advantage.

                                          Saying that, Liverpool have some difficult matches outside of City so it would be a herculean effort if they do win the league

                                          I think that match will peter out to a fairly boring draw as both teams will play not to lose - either 0-0 or 1-1 - and City will drop points elsewhere. Don't ask me where, but I think they will do so inadvertently after surviving that match and then focusing too much on the UCL

                                          Neither City nor Liverpool suit playing not to lose so I think both teams will go for it. Liverpool will be a bit less reckless than usual and City will be wary of fast breaks as well.

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