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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    This feels significant?

    Every other team in the Division is adding tools. KC just sold one of their biggest

    Seriously, their offence is Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill. This is a huge move.

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    @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    This feels significant?

    Every other team in the Division is adding tools. KC just sold one of their biggest

    Seriously, their offence is Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill. This is a huge move.

    Be a test of 'Andy Reid is an offensive genius' theories that's for sure. It's yet another strong wide receiver class so the chiefs might be backing themselves to find and develop a guy. A massive haul especially compared to what the Brown paid for Cooper.

    Be interesting to see how Hill goes with Tua, he's struggled with the deep ball so does that affect Hill?

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    • CyclopsC Cyclops

      @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      This feels significant?

      Every other team in the Division is adding tools. KC just sold one of their biggest

      Seriously, their offence is Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill. This is a huge move.

      Be a test of 'Andy Reid is an offensive genius' theories that's for sure. It's yet another strong wide receiver class so the chiefs might be backing themselves to find and develop a guy. A massive haul especially compared to what the Brown paid for Cooper.

      Be interesting to see how Hill goes with Tua, he's struggled with the deep ball so does that affect Hill?

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      @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      This feels significant?

      Every other team in the Division is adding tools. KC just sold one of their biggest

      Seriously, their offence is Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill. This is a huge move.

      Be a test of 'Andy Reid is an offensive genius' theories that's for sure. It's yet another strong wide receiver class so the chiefs might be backing themselves to find and develop a guy. A massive haul especially compared to what the Brown paid for Cooper.

      Be interesting to see how Hill goes with Tua, he's struggled with the deep ball so does that affect Hill?

      they've now got two short receivers with crazy wheels so look for a LOT of crossing routes looking for chaos after the catch

      But Tua is pretty average so i don't expect much to be honest

      The big winner is Hill, who i assume is now getting paid.

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        Hill wanted Davante Adams-like money which the Chiefs couldn't afford.

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        • mariner4lifeM Offline
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          #1260

          League is in a very specific place right now.

          To be successful:
          Explosive QB who can sling it
          Difference making receivers (not just dudes who can catch, guys who can get separation and make plays)
          Offensive Line
          Pass Rush

          Pretty much everything else is a role player. Despite this being a pass happy league, i don't think you even need elite corners, because even those guys are getting burned. Good corners in a good scheme is a better use of cap. Same with linebackers. But defense needs guys who can get to the QB over and over.
          All you need is a half decent running back (see the current Superbowl champions who barely have one).

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            League is in a very specific place right now.

            To be successful:
            Explosive QB who can sling it
            Difference making receivers (not just dudes who can catch, guys who can get separation and make plays)
            Offensive Line
            Pass Rush

            Pretty much everything else is a role player. Despite this being a pass happy league, i don't think you even need elite corners, because even those guys are getting burned. Good corners in a good scheme is a better use of cap. Same with linebackers. But defense needs guys who can get to the QB over and over.
            All you need is a half decent running back (see the current Superbowl champions who barely have one).

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            @mariner4life good post.

            Will be interesting if there is value suddenly in taking the traditional pocket passer (Brady) and surrounding with a solid roster. Dunno, that league is awesome, and they are driving year-round intrest. NZR should take note!

            looking forward to the new season. Some absolutely fantastic teams to watch at the moment, and a really entertaining game

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              https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

              Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

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              • canefanC canefan

                https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

                Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

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                @canefan laid out like that it's damning on the Niners isn't it?

                Poor old Jimmy G. Far from the worst QB in the league, and has actually been very very close to success on two occasions, which is juuuuust enough to keep a guy on. But he'll never be that guy.

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                  @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                  @canefan laid out like that it's damning on the Niners isn't it?

                  Poor old Jimmy G. Far from the worst QB in the league, and has actually been very very close to success on two occasions, which is juuuuust enough to keep a guy on. But he'll never be that guy.

                  It looks bad. But easy to say after the fact. Brady defied the odds and continues to do so. Not scouting Mahomes and Watson is a little harder to swallow

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

                    Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

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                    @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

                    Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

                    I wouldn't read too much into that. Grant Cohn is a notorious click bait artist.

                    Think Rattue, Stephen Jones etc.

                    The fact is with Shanahan it's going to come down to if Trey Lance is legit or not.

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                      https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1508469308812402690

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                        lol ripped off.

                        If they rung Christchurch City Council they could find out how to get a perfectly fine modern stadium with a roof for a fraction of that

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                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/29/nfl-says-all-32-teams-must-have-minority-offensive-coach-this-season

                          Does this mean that beacuse there are not many Nepalese players in the NFL the minority offensive coach (whatever that means) must be from Nepal?

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                          • HigginsH Higgins

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/29/nfl-says-all-32-teams-must-have-minority-offensive-coach-this-season

                            Does this mean that beacuse there are not many Nepalese players in the NFL the minority offensive coach (whatever that means) must be from Nepal?

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                            @higgins I can understand the logic behind this. Most new head coaches are offensive coaches. Very few offensive coaches are minorities.

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                              @higgins I can understand the logic behind this. Most new head coaches are offensive coaches. Very few offensive coaches are minorities.

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                              @kiwimurph on reflection I think it's a great move. Now teams are competing to get the most useful POC offensive coach they can... And if the find a good one, it's an advantage over the others.

                              Gets a lot of opportunities out there, now to up to the coaches to show their capability

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                                BA steps aside as Bucs head coach..

                                All that talk about a rift between Brady and BA has more juice now..

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                                • mimicM mimic

                                  BA steps aside as Bucs head coach..

                                  All that talk about a rift between Brady and BA has more juice now..

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                                  @mimic

                                  Maybe, although Bowles is something of a protege for him I suspect and he's moving into a front office role where I suspect he'll have a lot of authority (and the ear of the head coach).

                                  I'm excited to see how Bowles goes with his second chance. I liked him when he was the head coach of the Jets, but he had a couple of major issues. Will be interesting to see if having had some time back in a coordinator role has given him a chance to reflect and improve.

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                                    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33706232/pittsburgh-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-dies-being-hit-car

                                    A bizarre and tragic story. What he was doing walking across a motorway who knows

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                                      Deebo Samuel wants out

                                      It's not going right in Niner land

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                                        With the Draft a week away if Deebo's going to get traded it's going to happen sometime between now and then

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          Deebo Samuel wants out

                                          It's not going right in Niner land

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                                          #1276

                                          @mariner4life what went wrong? They seemed enthusiastic to pay him?

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