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    #1259

    Hill wanted Davante Adams-like money which the Chiefs couldn't afford.

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      League is in a very specific place right now.

      To be successful:
      Explosive QB who can sling it
      Difference making receivers (not just dudes who can catch, guys who can get separation and make plays)
      Offensive Line
      Pass Rush

      Pretty much everything else is a role player. Despite this being a pass happy league, i don't think you even need elite corners, because even those guys are getting burned. Good corners in a good scheme is a better use of cap. Same with linebackers. But defense needs guys who can get to the QB over and over.
      All you need is a half decent running back (see the current Superbowl champions who barely have one).

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        League is in a very specific place right now.

        To be successful:
        Explosive QB who can sling it
        Difference making receivers (not just dudes who can catch, guys who can get separation and make plays)
        Offensive Line
        Pass Rush

        Pretty much everything else is a role player. Despite this being a pass happy league, i don't think you even need elite corners, because even those guys are getting burned. Good corners in a good scheme is a better use of cap. Same with linebackers. But defense needs guys who can get to the QB over and over.
        All you need is a half decent running back (see the current Superbowl champions who barely have one).

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        @mariner4life good post.

        Will be interesting if there is value suddenly in taking the traditional pocket passer (Brady) and surrounding with a solid roster. Dunno, that league is awesome, and they are driving year-round intrest. NZR should take note!

        looking forward to the new season. Some absolutely fantastic teams to watch at the moment, and a really entertaining game

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          https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

          Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

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          • canefanC canefan

            https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

            Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

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            @canefan laid out like that it's damning on the Niners isn't it?

            Poor old Jimmy G. Far from the worst QB in the league, and has actually been very very close to success on two occasions, which is juuuuust enough to keep a guy on. But he'll never be that guy.

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              @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

              @canefan laid out like that it's damning on the Niners isn't it?

              Poor old Jimmy G. Far from the worst QB in the league, and has actually been very very close to success on two occasions, which is juuuuust enough to keep a guy on. But he'll never be that guy.

              It looks bad. But easy to say after the fact. Brady defied the odds and continues to do so. Not scouting Mahomes and Watson is a little harder to swallow

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              • canefanC canefan

                https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

                Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

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                @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/a-complete-history-of-kyle-shanahans-bad-quarterback-decisions-with-the-49ers

                Not great reading for 9ers fans. Especially the bit about Brady

                I wouldn't read too much into that. Grant Cohn is a notorious click bait artist.

                Think Rattue, Stephen Jones etc.

                The fact is with Shanahan it's going to come down to if Trey Lance is legit or not.

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                  https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1508469308812402690

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                    lol ripped off.

                    If they rung Christchurch City Council they could find out how to get a perfectly fine modern stadium with a roof for a fraction of that

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                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/29/nfl-says-all-32-teams-must-have-minority-offensive-coach-this-season

                      Does this mean that beacuse there are not many Nepalese players in the NFL the minority offensive coach (whatever that means) must be from Nepal?

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                        https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/29/nfl-says-all-32-teams-must-have-minority-offensive-coach-this-season

                        Does this mean that beacuse there are not many Nepalese players in the NFL the minority offensive coach (whatever that means) must be from Nepal?

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                        #1269

                        @higgins I can understand the logic behind this. Most new head coaches are offensive coaches. Very few offensive coaches are minorities.

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                          @higgins I can understand the logic behind this. Most new head coaches are offensive coaches. Very few offensive coaches are minorities.

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                          @kiwimurph on reflection I think it's a great move. Now teams are competing to get the most useful POC offensive coach they can... And if the find a good one, it's an advantage over the others.

                          Gets a lot of opportunities out there, now to up to the coaches to show their capability

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                            BA steps aside as Bucs head coach..

                            All that talk about a rift between Brady and BA has more juice now..

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                              BA steps aside as Bucs head coach..

                              All that talk about a rift between Brady and BA has more juice now..

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                              @mimic

                              Maybe, although Bowles is something of a protege for him I suspect and he's moving into a front office role where I suspect he'll have a lot of authority (and the ear of the head coach).

                              I'm excited to see how Bowles goes with his second chance. I liked him when he was the head coach of the Jets, but he had a couple of major issues. Will be interesting to see if having had some time back in a coordinator role has given him a chance to reflect and improve.

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                                #1273

                                https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33706232/pittsburgh-steelers-qb-dwayne-haskins-dies-being-hit-car

                                A bizarre and tragic story. What he was doing walking across a motorway who knows

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                                  #1274

                                  Deebo Samuel wants out

                                  It's not going right in Niner land

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                                    With the Draft a week away if Deebo's going to get traded it's going to happen sometime between now and then

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                                      Deebo Samuel wants out

                                      It's not going right in Niner land

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                                      @mariner4life what went wrong? They seemed enthusiastic to pay him?

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                                        @mariner4life what went wrong? They seemed enthusiastic to pay him?

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                                        @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                        @mariner4life what went wrong? They seemed enthusiastic to pay him?

                                        No clues in the ESPN article. The club wants to keep him. The only thing might be that they want to hold off on finalising a deal until closer to the draft, or their offer isn't as much as he expected

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          @mariner4life what went wrong? They seemed enthusiastic to pay him?

                                          No clues in the ESPN article. The club wants to keep him. The only thing might be that they want to hold off on finalising a deal until closer to the draft, or their offer isn't as much as he expected

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                                          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          or their offer isn't as much as he expected

                                          I think this is the crux of it.

                                          Some big name receivers got big time deals this offseason (think Tyreek Hill).

                                          The difference is players like Hill have years and years of production and Deebo has one season of production.

                                          I understand where Deebo is coming from - especially the style he plays he wants to get paid elite money whilst he's still in his prime.

                                          49ers are known for very team friendly deals but the flip side is situations like this. Personally i'd take the risk and pay him but 49ers are right to have some skepticism (he showed up out of shape to camp a couple of years back, he's a high risk of injury).

                                          Whilst it's a fairly weak draft - at receiver the draft is strong so it will be interesting.

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