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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

    Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

    true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

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    Bones
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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

    Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

    true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

    Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

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      Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.

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      • C cgrant

        Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.

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        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

        Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.

        Jager is the best TH if our plan is to go back to a worse Owen Franks. My quick look over his stats suggests he has 11 runs for 8 metres from three games. He's a good Super level player who makes his tackles, but he's miles way from being able to contribute around the field, which we desperately need from our props.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:

          Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.

          Jager is the best TH if our plan is to go back to a worse Owen Franks. My quick look over his stats suggests he has 11 runs for 8 metres from three games. He's a good Super level player who makes his tackles, but he's miles way from being able to contribute around the field, which we desperately need from our props.

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          @gt12 Yeah I'd swap Jager out for Ainsley there, definite contrast in impact.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

            @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

            @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

            @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

            Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

            true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

            Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

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            DaGrubster
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            #515

            @bones its a bold strategy Cotrton, lets see if it pays off!

            weirdly enough my daughter plays dodgeball at school and loves it. Or course, I have taught her the 5 D's of Dodgeball...

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            • D DaGrubster

              @bones its a bold strategy Cotrton, lets see if it pays off!

              weirdly enough my daughter plays dodgeball at school and loves it. Or course, I have taught her the 5 D's of Dodgeball...

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              @dagrubster said in All Blacks 2022:

              @bones its a bold strategy Cotrton, lets see if it pays off!

              weirdly enough my daughter plays dodgeball at school and loves it. Or course, I have taught her the 5 D's of Dodgeball...

              Did you practice with a bag of wrenches? If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball

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              • BonesB Bones

                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

                Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

                true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

                Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

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                Kiwiwomble
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                #517

                @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

                Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

                true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

                Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

                i dont even know what that means sorry

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

                  Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

                  true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

                  Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

                  i dont even know what that means sorry

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                  Machpants
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                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

                  Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

                  true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

                  Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

                  i dont even know what that means sorry

                  Jesus, ban him! A disgrace

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                  • M Machpants

                    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?

                    Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.

                    true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do

                    Thanks Cotton 😁 how's it going at the ocho?

                    i dont even know what that means sorry

                    Jesus, ban him! A disgrace

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                    Kiwiwomble
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                    @machpants ok, i did get the reference...just wasn't sure how it related to what i said

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                      Some additions to the coaching staff.

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/we-need-to-get-better-all-blacks-confirm-two-new-additions-to-coaching-staff/

                      Speaking to the New Zealand Herald, Foster revealed that Waikato director of rugby Andrew Strawbridge will join the All Blacks as a skills consultant, while veteran scrum coach Mike Cron will act as an informal mentor.
                      
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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Some additions to the coaching staff.

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/we-need-to-get-better-all-blacks-confirm-two-new-additions-to-coaching-staff/

                        Speaking to the New Zealand Herald, Foster revealed that Waikato director of rugby Andrew Strawbridge will join the All Blacks as a skills consultant, while veteran scrum coach Mike Cron will act as an informal mentor.
                        
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                        taniwharugby
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                        @kiwimurph while it is great they have recognised there is an issue, is adding more heads to the table the answer?

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                          Get enough people on the coaching staff and it'll be impossible to determine who is at fault...

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @kiwimurph while it is great they have recognised there is an issue, is adding more heads to the table the answer?

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @kiwimurph while it is great they have recognised there is an issue, is adding more heads to the table the answer?

                            If the current lot don't have the skills to do what they need to, then yes.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @kiwimurph while it is great they have recognised there is an issue, is adding more heads to the table the answer?

                              If the current lot don't have the skills to do what they need to, then yes.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              @crucial only if the new heads have an influence over decisions made by the current lot, that I expect they wont, as that would essentially be 'micro-managing' them, and if any of these guys need micro-managing, then we are in more trouble than we thought!

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @crucial only if the new heads have an influence over decisions made by the current lot, that I expect they wont, as that would essentially be 'micro-managing' them, and if any of these guys need micro-managing, then we are in more trouble than we thought!

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                                Crucial
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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @crucial only if the new heads have an influence over decisions made by the current lot, that I expect they wont, as that would essentially be 'micro-managing' them, and if any of these guys need micro-managing, then we are in more trouble than we thought!

                                They are both skills specialists. Nothing to do with tactics, selection etc. The current mob have identified skills areas that need work and these guys are the best to do so. They have been added as tools not as influencers.

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                                  If you need to bring in Cron to address the work of Feek and Plumtree, those two need to be fucked off. If Strawbridge is coming in to address the paucity of skills on attack, what the flying fuck is our current attack coach doing?

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @crucial only if the new heads have an influence over decisions made by the current lot, that I expect they wont, as that would essentially be 'micro-managing' them, and if any of these guys need micro-managing, then we are in more trouble than we thought!

                                    They are both skills specialists. Nothing to do with tactics, selection etc. The current mob have identified skills areas that need work and these guys are the best to do so. They have been added as tools not as influencers.

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                                    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    They are both skills specialists. Nothing to do with tactics, selection etc.

                                    Joe Schmidt might be able to influence that?

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @crucial only if the new heads have an influence over decisions made by the current lot, that I expect they wont, as that would essentially be 'micro-managing' them, and if any of these guys need micro-managing, then we are in more trouble than we thought!

                                      They are both skills specialists. Nothing to do with tactics, selection etc. The current mob have identified skills areas that need work and these guys are the best to do so. They have been added as tools not as influencers.

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                                      taniwharugby
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                                      @crucial soon we will be able to have 1 coach per player!

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        If you need to bring in Cron to address the work of Feek and Plumtree, those two need to be fucked off. If Strawbridge is coming in to address the paucity of skills on attack, what the flying fuck is our current attack coach doing?

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        If you need to bring in Cron to address the work of Feek and Plumtree, those two need to be fucked off. If Strawbridge is coming in to address the paucity of skills on attack, what the flying fuck is our current attack coach doing?

                                        Did you read the article?

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          If you need to bring in Cron to address the work of Feek and Plumtree, those two need to be fucked off. If Strawbridge is coming in to address the paucity of skills on attack, what the flying fuck is our current attack coach doing?

                                          Did you read the article?

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                                          antipodean
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                                          @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          If you need to bring in Cron to address the work of Feek and Plumtree, those two need to be fucked off. If Strawbridge is coming in to address the paucity of skills on attack, what the flying fuck is our current attack coach doing?

                                          Did you read the article?

                                          Well either that or by coincidence I raised two key points mentioned in the article.

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