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All Blacks vs Wales

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
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    #615

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="584229" data-time="1464657467">
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    <p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/lfL0UvH.gif" alt="lfL0UvH.gif"></p>
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    <p>Haha, fuck Hooroo, it's tougher fooling my sons than the likes of you !!</p>

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      #616

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Provincial Stalwart" data-cid="584235" data-time="1464658124">
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      <p>Tough news for Ngatai. The stuff website states he "was released to work through concussion symptoms." Rennie seemed confident last week that he could play this weekend (if there was a game) but these things have a worrying tendency to drag out week after week.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>If they've ruled him out already, he must be clearly some way away from contact and Moala needs the full induction. I'd have thought the ABs are predominantly in the classroom (and the gym) this week rather than on the training paddock, introducing the new vision, mission statement, strategies, tactics, structures, Wales must be respected, etc.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p><strong>Especially they need to remind each new player that his ability to bash fanny has just tripled.      </strong></p>
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      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>"but remember boys, don't hit them up at work, that's a dick move"</p>

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      • MN5M Online
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        MN5
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        #617

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="584238" data-time="1464658613">
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        <p>"but remember boys, don't hit them up at work, that's a dick move"</p>
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        <p> </p>
        <p>Intimidation boys, that's the key to smashing box.....</p>

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          #618

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="584196" data-time="1464650931"><p>
          So basically the player that the hype machine would have us believe that Luke Whitelock is ?</p></blockquote>
          <br>
          Hype machine? Am i missing your irony emoticon?

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            #619

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="584221" data-time="1464656233"><p>Ngatai out with COncussions symptoms not yet resolved and Moala in</p></blockquote>
            <br>
            Tough on Ngatai but the All Blacks are world leaders in looking after players and taking a rightly cautious approach to concussion issues.<br><br>
            Pleased to see Moala back in the squad, an impressive athlete.

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              Immenso Rapido
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              #620

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="584336" data-time="1464683009"><p>
              Tough on Ngatai but the All Blacks are world leaders in looking after players and taking a rightly cautious approach to concussion issues.<br><br>
              .</p></blockquote>
              <br>
              Are we? Genuine question. Because Sparky thinking the ABs are amazing is not a safe source of new information,

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                #621

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Immenso Rapido" data-cid="584337" data-time="1464683312">
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                <p>Are we? Genuine question. Because Sparky thinking the ABs are amazing is not a safe source of new information,</p>
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                <p> </p>
                <p>Haha yes, head cheerleader Sparky...</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>I dunno about world leaders, but NZ seem to be making moves in the right direction down to club level with a blue card system in what will hopefully be adopted by all NZ provinces, first trialled by Northland in 2014, approved by NZRU and recently adopted by Wellington.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/9754445/Northland-leads-concussion-fight-with-blue-card'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/9754445/Northland-leads-concussion-fight-with-blue-card</a></p>
                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://cjsmblog.com/2015/03/14/a-blue-card-for-rugby/'>https://cjsmblog.com/2015/03/14/a-blue-card-for-rugby/</a></p>
                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11646090'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11646090</a></p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>edit - I thought it had been adopted by all provinces already</p>

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                  <p>Work still to do obviously, but I've heard a number of medics and Rugby officials in the UK say NZ leading a lot of research and procedures into these issues. Also I've spoken to a couple of All Blacks about the support they've received over several years.</p>

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                    #623

                    <p>think the Kieran Read concussion a couple of years ago when the Crusaders and All Blacks weren't selecting him shows that NZ considers player safety really important</p>

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                      #624

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="584270" data-time="1464666022">
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                      <p>Hype machine? Am i missing your irony emoticon?</p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p>Is that his new nickname? Hypelock?</p>

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                        Immenso Rapido
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                        #625

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="584340" data-time="1464684168"><p>
                        Haha yes, head cheerleader Sparky...<br><br>
                        I dunno about world leaders, but NZ seem to be making moves in the right direction down to club level with a blue card system in what will hopefully be adopted by all NZ provinces, first trialled by Northland in 2014, approved by NZRU and recently adopted by Wellington.<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/9754445/Northland-leads-concussion-fight-with-blue-card">http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/9754445/Northland-leads-concussion-fight-with-blue-card</a><br><a class="bbc_url" href="https://cjsmblog.com/2015/03/14/a-blue-card-for-rugby/">https://cjsmblog.com/2015/03/14/a-blue-card-for-rugby/</a><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11646090">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11646090</a><br><br>
                        edit - I thought it had been adopted by all provinces already</p></blockquote>
                        <br>
                        Cheers for the link. The blue card, and subsequent clearances required, look like a good system.

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                          Ok seems like nz rugby talk has dropped off a cliff since the squad was announced and thefust settled. So the team for the first test. Who will it be? Are they going to roll with the top team first up then give others a shot in the second and third games? <br>
                          Would guess the first team is pretty settled with the only question marks being Crockett vs Moody. Sam Whitelocks replacement if he doesnt play and the right wing, although Naholo would have to be front runner. With Ngatai out it delays that midfield question.<br><br>
                          I guess the bench is where we might see a new guy for that wing/midfield spot.<br><br>
                          Most importantly when is the team named?

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                            #627

                            <p>I think the comment has been made from the coaches that they are going to run a conservative 23 for Test 1.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>I saw somewhere today that Whitelock is progressing well and is becoming an option for Test 1.</p>

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                              <p>Would make sense to keep the team as settled as possible given the time since they were last together and the players missing. Then have guys make their debut/return from the bench. Might be that Ardie is the only guy likely to make his debut in the first test unless they go with Tamanivalu to cover that bench spot.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>The other question mark is who they go with at 10. I would be very surprised if Cruden didn't get first go however.</p>

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                                <p>I'd be surprised if there are too many surprises...</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Only one I might be inclined to make to give someone a kick up the arse would be put Dagg at 15, Smith to 14 and Naholo to 11.....</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>But what I thnk they'll go with:</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Moody, Coles, Franks</p>
                                <p>Whitelock (if fit) BBBR</p>
                                <p>Kaino, Read, Cane</p>
                                <p>Smith, Cruden</p>
                                <p>Crotty, Fekitoa</p>
                                <p>Savea, Smith, Naholo</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Taylor, Crocket, Tuipulotu, Savea, TKB, Moala, BB</p>

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                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="584979" data-time="1464945650"><p>I'd be surprised if there are too many surprises...<br><br>
                                  Only one I might be inclined to make to give someone a kick up the arse would be put Dagg at 15, Smith to 14 and Naholo to 11.....<br><br>
                                  But what I thnk they'll go with:<br><br>
                                  Moody, Coles, Franks<br>
                                  Whitelock (if fit) BBBR<br>
                                  Kaino, Read, Cane<br>
                                  Smith, Cruden<br>
                                  Crotty, Fekitoa<br>
                                  Savea, Smith, Naholo<br><br>
                                  Taylor, Crocket, Tuipulotu, Savea, TKB, Moala, BB</p></blockquote>
                                  <br>

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="584979" data-time="1464945650">
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                                    <p>I'd be surprised if there are too many surprises...</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Only one I might be inclined to make to give someone a kick up the arse would be put Dagg at 15, Smith to 14 and Naholo to 11.....</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>But what I thnk they'll go with:</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Moody, Coles, Franks</p>
                                    <p>Whitelock (if fit) BBBR</p>
                                    <p>Kaino, Read, Cane</p>
                                    <p>Smith, Cruden</p>
                                    <p>Crotty, Fekitoa</p>
                                    <p>Savea, Smith, Naholo</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Taylor, Crocket, Tuipulotu, Savea, TKB, Moala, BB</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>plus Charlie F on the bench.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Only debatable one is Moala, and even then he'd probably be the logical choice if Shag keeps picking BB + midfield cover as the backs on the bench. I'd like to see Sopoaga and Dagg/McKenzie as the two on the bench, but that's unlikely</p>

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                                      <p>oh yeah, I am missing a man on the bench! </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Charlie it is...</p>

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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="584979" data-time="1464945650">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>I'd be surprised if there are too many surprises...</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Only one I might be inclined to make to give someone a kick up the arse would be put Dagg at 15, Smith to 14 and Naholo to 11.....</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>But what I thnk they'll go with:</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Moody, Coles, Franks</p>
                                        <p>Whitelock (if fit) BBBR</p>
                                        <p>Kaino, Read, Cane</p>
                                        <p>Smith, Cruden</p>
                                        <p>Crotty, Fekitoa</p>
                                        <p>Savea, Smith, Naholo</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Taylor, Crocket, Tuipulotu, Savea, TKB, Moala, BB</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p>That seems just plain strange without McCaw (c) there.</p>

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                                          Moala is only an injury cover, and tamanivalu was picked in the original squad. So I'm not sure why you'd pick moala on the bench over tamanivalu. <br><br>
                                          Dixon is a strong possibility for the bench, he gives better cover than ardie. Kaino will surely come off so cane would have to go to 6 if ardie is in the bench.

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