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All Blacks 2022

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  • TimT Tim

    @broughie It's a criticism of the coaches, not an excuse. As in the "man management" side of their coaching/organizing could have been better.

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    broughie
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    @tim so man management. Who was mismanaged or did they throw that out there because it sounds fancy?

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      I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

      1 Moody
      2 Taukei'aho
      3 Tu'ungafasi
      4 Barrett
      5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

      Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

      Reserves might be something like:

      Taylor
      Hodgman
      Laulala
      Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

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      • TimT Tim

        I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

        1 Moody
        2 Taukei'aho
        3 Tu'ungafasi
        4 Barrett
        5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

        Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

        Reserves might be something like:

        Taylor
        Hodgman
        Laulala
        Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

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        @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

        I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

        1 Moody
        2 Taukei'aho
        3 Tu'ungafasi
        4 Barrett
        5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

        Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

        Reserves might be something like:

        Taylor
        Hodgman
        Laulala
        Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

        Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job. Plenty of options in most positions. Very few stand out as head and shoulders better.

        I'll take your Whitelock bait on behalf of the Cantabs though. Would probably sneak him in in front of BBR (needs to earn his third B back).

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        • boobooB booboo

          @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

          1 Moody
          2 Taukei'aho
          3 Tu'ungafasi
          4 Barrett
          5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

          Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

          Reserves might be something like:

          Taylor
          Hodgman
          Laulala
          Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

          Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job. Plenty of options in most positions. Very few stand out as head and shoulders better.

          I'll take your Whitelock bait on behalf of the Cantabs though. Would probably sneak him in in front of BBR (needs to earn his third B back).

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          @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

          Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job.

          Nine and ten are firmly settled (Smith and Barrett). Midfield and loose forward players are the hardest to select. Really hope Jordie Barrett can kick on at 12.

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            Tim
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            Loose forward pool:

            Cane
            Papalii
            Savea
            Ioane
            Sotutu
            Blackadder
            Robinson

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              #561

              Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

              Certainties:

              Ioane
              ALB (injured?)

              12 options:

              Tupaea
              Havili
              RTS
              J Barrett
              Goodhue
              (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

              13 options:

              Fainga'anuku
              Goodhue
              (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

              We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

              9 Smith
              10 B Barrett
              11 Clarke
              12 J Barrett
              13 R Ioane
              14 Reece
              15 Jordan

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              • TimT Tim

                Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                Certainties:

                Ioane
                ALB (injured?)

                12 options:

                Tupaea
                Havili
                RTS
                J Barrett
                Goodhue
                (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                13 options:

                Fainga'anuku
                Goodhue
                (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                9 Smith
                10 B Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 J Barrett
                13 R Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Jordan

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                @tim if have the topXV from 7 out as

                Cane, savea, Smith, Barrett, Ioane, Barrett, alb, Reece, Jordan. ?, Mounga, and Leicester on the bench backs.

                Clark hasn't shown enough yet this year, imo. But happy to see a look at yours!

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                • TimT Tim

                  Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                  Certainties:

                  Ioane
                  ALB (injured?)

                  12 options:

                  Tupaea
                  Havili
                  RTS
                  J Barrett
                  Goodhue
                  (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                  13 options:

                  Fainga'anuku
                  Goodhue
                  (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                  We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                  9 Smith
                  10 B Barrett
                  11 Clarke
                  12 J Barrett
                  13 R Ioane
                  14 Reece
                  15 Jordan

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                  @tim i'd put TUJ as a 12 contender (if he can stay fit.... big if)

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                  • M Machpants

                    @tim if have the topXV from 7 out as

                    Cane, savea, Smith, Barrett, Ioane, Barrett, alb, Reece, Jordan. ?, Mounga, and Leicester on the bench backs.

                    Clark hasn't shown enough yet this year, imo. But happy to see a look at yours!

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                    #564

                    @machpants That is what I am seeing at the moment. Mounga really needs to get his mojo back though. We need someone who can manage the end of the game and that includes kicking for territory (example Steyn in the 2nd test vs ABs).

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                      Certainties:

                      Ioane
                      ALB (injured?)

                      12 options:

                      Tupaea
                      Havili
                      RTS
                      J Barrett
                      Goodhue
                      (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                      13 options:

                      Fainga'anuku
                      Goodhue
                      (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                      We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                      9 Smith
                      10 B Barrett
                      11 Clarke
                      12 J Barrett
                      13 R Ioane
                      14 Reece
                      15 Jordan

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                      #565

                      @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                      Certainties:

                      Ioane
                      ALB (injured?)

                      12 options:

                      Tupaea
                      Havili
                      RTS
                      J Barrett
                      Goodhue
                      (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                      13 options:

                      Fainga'anuku
                      Goodhue
                      (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                      We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                      9 Smith
                      10 B Barrett
                      11 Clarke
                      12 J Barrett
                      13 R Ioane
                      14 Reece
                      15 Jordan

                      I think you should Jordie as 15 contender where I till think he may play for ABs

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                        Certainties:

                        Ioane
                        ALB (injured?)

                        12 options:

                        Tupaea
                        Havili
                        RTS
                        J Barrett
                        Goodhue
                        (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                        13 options:

                        Fainga'anuku
                        Goodhue
                        (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                        We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                        9 Smith
                        10 B Barrett
                        11 Clarke
                        12 J Barrett
                        13 R Ioane
                        14 Reece
                        15 Jordan

                        I think you should Jordie as 15 contender where I till think he may play for ABs

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                        @dan54 Oh I think Jordie will be the 1st choice 15, but I'd like to see him get a run at 12 too.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @dan54 Oh I think Jordie will be the 1st choice 15, but I'd like to see him get a run at 12 too.

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                          @tim smith, beauden,Clarke,rts,riko,talea, jordie

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                            #568
                            1. De Groot
                            2. Taukeiaho
                            3. Lomax
                            4. Lord
                            5. Whitelock (rotates w/ Retallick)
                            6. Savea
                            7. Cane
                            8. PGS
                            9. Smith
                            10. B. Barrett
                            11. Ioane
                            12. J. Barrett
                            13. ALB
                            14. Reece
                            15. Jordan
                            16. Taylor
                            17. Norris
                            18. Ta’avo
                            19. Vaa’I (S. Barrett?)
                            20. Papalii (Jacobson?)
                            21. Weber
                            22. Mo’unga
                            23. Tupaea (TUJ / PUJ / RTS / Nankivell?)

                            Wouldn’t mind this team going forward

                            Inexperienced props sure but think it’s time to get rid of the older non-performers imo

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                              @tim smith, beauden,Clarke,rts,riko,talea, jordie

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                              Yeahtheboys
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                              @george33 what team do u support?

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                                @george33 what team do u support?

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                                @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                                  Pretty obvious who @Yeahtheboys supports as well. Terrible team.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                                    Billy Tell
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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                                    That’s the joke…

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                                      Moody
                                      Taukeiaho
                                      Ofa T
                                      Lord
                                      Whitelock
                                      Cane
                                      Ioane
                                      Savea
                                      Smith
                                      B. Barrett
                                      L Fainga'anuku
                                      J. Barrett
                                      Ioane
                                      Reece
                                      Jordan
                                      Reserves
                                      Taylor
                                      Hodgman
                                      Newell
                                      S. Barrett
                                      Papalii
                                      Christie
                                      Mo’unga
                                      Clarke

                                      Team I would like to see Run on.

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                                        #574

                                        This Jordie at 12 thing is really interesting.
                                        Perhaps it depends on whether Jordan is seen as effective enough at test level as a 15.
                                        How's his defence, positioning, high ball work and kicking game compared to Jordie?
                                        Obviously his attack is superior.

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                                          That’s the joke…

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                                          @billy-tell kids these days, when I went to school, jokes were meant to be funny....

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