All Blacks 2022
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@arhs said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim Reece surely?
Fainganuku did himself no favors last night. He was anonymous.
Clarke had, until this week (when he will fall behind as he isn’t playing) the most clean breaks and was up there for tries too. On average, he might still be the leader as well.
It will really depend on whether Jordie is at 15. If so, one spot is available (11). If not, both Clarke and Reece would be good options down either flank.
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@arhs said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim Reece surely?
Fainganuku did himself no favors last night. He was anonymous.
Clarke had, until this week (when he will fall behind as he isn’t playing) the most clean breaks and was up there for tries too. On average, he might still be the leader as well.
It will really depend on whether Jordie is at 15. If so, one spot is available (11). If not, both Clarke and Reece would be good options down either flank.
@gt12 yeah Blues gave Leicester nothing, so much so that Bridge of all people looked the better of them after he replaced Leicester.
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@bovidae Well Bridge replaced Leicester on the wing....
YC aside, Havili was good in the first half, bit more direct and acting as a playmaker instead of jinking about like Mounga often does.
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@taniwharugby I didn't think either left winger did much all game, as the ball tended to go to the other flank. Lam was continually going infield and giving Reece so much space, and then missing cover tackles.
The ginga halfback's tackling stats were really poor - made 4, missed 5.
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@taniwharugby I didn't think either left winger did much all game, as the ball tended to go to the other flank. Lam was continually going infield and giving Reece so much space, and then missing cover tackles.
The ginga halfback's tackling stats were really poor - made 4, missed 5.
@bovidae just said Bridge looked better than Leicester, not that he was any good!
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@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm seriously worried about our playmakers.
Both BB and RM last night showed serious flaws for test level. BB still relies on moments of brilliance (as does RM) but showed zero tactical awareness and control. I'm not just talking about the last 10 minutes either. When he did try to play tactically his skills (in particular kicking from hand) really let him down.
RM just isn't up to it defensively and if you can't hide him (or the opposition seek him out) it is 2019 semifinal all over again.I wonder if leaving RM to defend at 10 like they did with first fives with similar issues back in the day would still work in the modern game. At least he would have other players around him to help out. When you hide him on the wing (for example) and the opposition 'find' him he is pretty much on his own.
When RM first came on the scene I remember him being talked up as a heavy hitter for a 10. Then he got some shoulder injuries...
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm seriously worried about our playmakers.
Both BB and RM last night showed serious flaws for test level. BB still relies on moments of brilliance (as does RM) but showed zero tactical awareness and control. I'm not just talking about the last 10 minutes either. When he did try to play tactically his skills (in particular kicking from hand) really let him down.
RM just isn't up to it defensively and if you can't hide him (or the opposition seek him out) it is 2019 semifinal all over again.I wonder if leaving RM to defend at 10 like they did with first fives with similar issues back in the day would still work in the modern game. At least he would have other players around him to help out. When you hide him on the wing (for example) and the opposition 'find' him he is pretty much on his own.
Like Barrett B? He was an absolute liability when he came onto the scene, missed some absolute sitters and was seen as a turnstile in defence. Credit to him, he's improved massively, and it's just not an issue any more. RM not so much.
Thing is, if you play RM at 10, you probably can't carry DH at 12. It'd suit more of a JB player; I like BB to start, and RM to finish (with Barrett covering 15 in case of injury)
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
Has Jordie ever played 10?
being a big bastard isn't such an advantage at 10. At 12, though, with traffic aroudn it's a huge advantage. He's got the skills, would love to see him there.
Honestly, it's not quite at the Hayman to 8 discussion, but there is a strong argument that he would fill a hole for us, and bring something different. A solid, distributing, playmaking goal kicker at 12, who can bail out the 10 with strong carries and smack some people on defence is so tempting.
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He didn’t start but I’m sure he went there at some point.
Started a game at the WC as you mentioned.
I think if he moves, 12 is the place.
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Firm selections for this season:
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi9 Smith
10 B Barrett13 Ioane
14/15 Jordan
15 J Barrett (or is it at 12?)Lock is wide open, as are the loose forwards. Clarke is very close to being a lock at 11. Reece will get game time. 12 is the remaining question in the backs.
Form locks this year are arguably Lord and Goodhue. I don't expect them to start or make the 23 though.
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Firm selections for this season:
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi9 Smith
10 B Barrett13 Ioane
14/15 Jordan
15 J Barrett (or is it at 12?)Lock is wide open, as are the loose forwards. Clarke is very close to being a lock at 11. Reece will get game time. 12 is the remaining question in the backs.
Form locks this year are arguably Lord and Goodhue. I don't expect them to start or make the 23 though.
That's a very Blue take on ABs selection.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Firm selections for this season:
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi9 Smith
10 B Barrett13 Ioane
14/15 Jordan
15 J Barrett (or is it at 12?)Lock is wide open, as are the loose forwards. Clarke is very close to being a lock at 11. Reece will get game time. 12 is the remaining question in the backs.
Form locks this year are arguably Lord and Goodhue. I don't expect them to start or make the 23 though.
That's a very Blue take on ABs selection.
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Firm selections for this season:
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi9 Smith
10 B Barrett13 Ioane
14/15 Jordan
15 J Barrett (or is it at 12?)Lock is wide open, as are the loose forwards. Clarke is very close to being a lock at 11. Reece will get game time. 12 is the remaining question in the backs.
Form locks this year are arguably Lord and Goodhue. I don't expect them to start or make the 23 though.
That's a very Blue take on ABs selection.
Best side in NZ so not unexpected.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Firm selections for this season:
1 Hodgman
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi9 Smith
10 B Barrett13 Ioane
14/15 Jordan
15 J Barrett (or is it at 12?)Lock is wide open, as are the loose forwards. Clarke is very close to being a lock at 11. Reece will get game time. 12 is the remaining question in the backs.
Form locks this year are arguably Lord and Goodhue. I don't expect them to start or make the 23 though.
That's a very Blue take on ABs selection.
Best side in NZ so not unexpected.
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@kirwan Haha, I love Blues fans going from almost suicidal a few years ago to arrogant after their first win over the Crusaders in many years.
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@kirwan Haha, I love Blues fans going from almost suicidal a few years ago to arrogant after their first win over the Crusaders in many years.
First of many bro! Woo.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
Started a game at the WC as you mentioned.
Playing 1st 5 against Namibia is probably similar to playing there in an NPC game. Remember that TJP later played at 1st 5 in the same game.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
Started a game at the WC as you mentioned.
Playing 1st 5 against Namibia is probably similar to playing there in an NPC game. Remember that TJP later played at 1st 5 in the same game.
I’m not arguing for him to play there?
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm seriously worried about our playmakers.
Both BB and RM last night showed serious flaws for test level. BB still relies on moments of brilliance (as does RM) but showed zero tactical awareness and control. I'm not just talking about the last 10 minutes either. When he did try to play tactically his skills (in particular kicking from hand) really let him down.
RM just isn't up to it defensively and if you can't hide him (or the opposition seek him out) it is 2019 semifinal all over again.I wonder if leaving RM to defend at 10 like they did with first fives with similar issues back in the day would still work in the modern game. At least he would have other players around him to help out. When you hide him on the wing (for example) and the opposition 'find' him he is pretty much on his own.
Like Barrett B? He was an absolute liability when he came onto the scene, missed some absolute sitters and was seen as a turnstile in defence. Credit to him, he's improved massively, and it's just not an issue any more. RM not so much.
Thing is, if you play RM at 10, you probably can't carry DH at 12. It'd suit more of a JB player; I like BB to start, and RM to finish (with Barrett covering 15 in case of injury)
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm seriously worried about our playmakers.
Both BB and RM last night showed serious flaws for test level. BB still relies on moments of brilliance (as does RM) but showed zero tactical awareness and control. I'm not just talking about the last 10 minutes either. When he did try to play tactically his skills (in particular kicking from hand) really let him down.
RM just isn't up to it defensively and if you can't hide him (or the opposition seek him out) it is 2019 semifinal all over again.I wonder if leaving RM to defend at 10 like they did with first fives with similar issues back in the day would still work in the modern game. At least he would have other players around him to help out. When you hide him on the wing (for example) and the opposition 'find' him he is pretty much on his own.
Like Barrett B? He was an absolute liability when he came onto the scene, missed some absolute sitters and was seen as a turnstile in defence. Credit to him, he's improved massively, and it's just not an issue any more. RM not so much.
Thing is, if you play RM at 10, you probably can't carry DH at 12. It'd suit more of a JB player; I like BB to start, and RM to finish (with Barrett covering 15 in case of injury)
RM would make me nervous as a finisher. I can see him trying too hard to make an impression.
