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  • gt12G gt12

    @voodoo said in Japanese Rugby:

    A @booboo just doesn't get any better than consecutive posts

    New award? Or, is there already a best booboo?

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    @gt12 said in Japanese Rugby:

    @voodoo said in Japanese Rugby:

    A @booboo just doesn't get any better than consecutive posts

    New award? Or, is there already a best booboo?

    I'd like to think I'm the best booboo

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    • boobooB booboo

      @gt12 said in Japanese Rugby:

      @voodoo said in Japanese Rugby:

      A @booboo just doesn't get any better than consecutive posts

      New award? Or, is there already a best booboo?

      I'd like to think I'm the best booboo

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      @booboo said in Japanese Rugby:

      @gt12 said in Japanese Rugby:

      @voodoo said in Japanese Rugby:

      A @booboo just doesn't get any better than consecutive posts

      New award? Or, is there already a best booboo?

      I'd like to think I'm the best booboo

      None better.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Japanese Rugby:

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          What does player 1,2,3 mean?

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            • M Machpants

              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Japanese Rugby:

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              What does player 1,2,3 mean?

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              @Machpants Maybe they are only allowed 3 non Japanese qualified international players per squad ?

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              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                @Machpants Maybe they are only allowed 3 non Japanese qualified international players per squad ?

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                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Japanese Rugby:

                @Machpants Maybe they are only allowed 3 non Japanese qualified international players per squad ?

                I think there are three categories: A, B, C

                A = Japanese and/or already Japanese qualified

                B = on the path to becoming Japanese qualified

                C = played for another nation (i.e., not available for Japan)

                So, at Kobe, that is Lukhanyo Am, Cruden, and Smith whereas Buckman and Parker are classified as category B (could potentially turn out for Japan).

                Of interest to me is the way they are getting around the purpose as the translation from Japanese is that category B players (like Buckman etc) are expected to become eligible.

                I doubt that many of them would play for the Blossoms though...

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Japanese Rugby:

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                  Take away for me here is you didn't know who Matt Lucas and Viliami Tahitu'a were.

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                    BTW, according to a Reddit thread (summarizing a French article about League 1 and the A, B, C categories):

                    From January 2022, League One teams will have to line up at least 11 category A players on the field and 17 category A players on the match sheet.
                    
                    There will be no limit for category B while clubs will now be able to line up 3 foreign internationals on the field (against 2 in the Top League).
                    
                    From January 2023, a quota of players will be applied to the team's squads, a first in the history of Japanese rugby. Japanese players (category A) must represent a minimum of 80% of a club's squad, or 40 or more players.
                    
                    Players in categories B and C combined will not be able to exceed 20% of a team's squad, i.e. 10 foreign players or less. This announcement is made to allow more young Japanese players to play at the professional level while rubbing shoulders with more foreign stars at the expense of average foreign player
                    

                    It will be interesting to see whether some of the current Bs move across to As and/or whether there will be less demand for non-Japanese players.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Japanese Rugby:

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                      Take away for me here is you didn't know who Matt Lucas and Viliami Tahitu'a were.

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                      @Bones Observant, but that's how it was when I copied it from a Reddit post. I knew Lucas, did not know Tahitu'a. So you are half right :cowboy_hat_face:

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                        The 100 NZ-born players playing in Japan

                        DIVISION 1

                        Black Rams Tokyo: Colin Bourke, Blair Cowan, Matt McGahan, Jacob Skeen, Daymon Leasuasu, Josefa Logavatu

                        Green Rockets Tokatsu: Ash Dixon, Whetu Douglas, Lomano Lemeki, Fletcher Smith, Tom Marshall

                        Kobelco Kobe Steelers: Tom Franklin, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Brodi McCurran, Aaron Cruden, Hayden Parker, Richard Buckman, Fraser Anderson

                        Kubota Spears Funabashi Tokyo Bay: Ryan Crotty

                        Saitama Wild Knights: Hadleigh Parkes, Lachlan Boshier, Vince Aso, Craig Millar, Mark Abbott

                        Shining Arcs Tokyo Bay Urayasu: Otere Black, Brackin Karauria-Henry, Jimmy Tupou, Luke Thompson, Anaru Rangi, Sekonaia Pole

                        Shizuoka Blue Revs: Malo Tuitama, Keagan Faria

                        Tokyo Sungoliath: Damian McKenzie, Tevita Li, Hendrik Tui, Tom Sanders, Joe Latta

                        Toshiba Brave Lupus: Matt Todd, Seta Tamanivalu, Tom Taylor, Johnny Fa’auli, Tim Bateman, Jack Stratton, Jacob Pierce, Nik McCurran, Michael Leitch, Warner Dearns

                        Toyota Verblitz: Patrick Tuipulotu, Michael Allardice, Tiaan Falcon, Charlie Lawrence, Rob Thompson, Male Sa’u, Will Tupou, Jamie Henry

                        Yokohama Canon Eagles: Liaki Moli

                        DIVISION 2

                        Hanazono Kintetsu Liners: Jed Brown, Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa

                        Hino Red Dolphins: Nasi Manu, Ash Parker, Augustine Pulu, Hayden Cripps, Jack Debreczeni, TJ Faiane, Chance Peni, Gillies Kaka

                        Kamaishi Seawaves: Morgan Mitchell, Ben Nee-Nee, Sam Henwood, Brett Cameron, Cameron Bailey

                        Mie Honda Heat: Tethui Roberts, Matt Duffie

                        Mitsubishi Sagamihara DynaBoars: Jackson Hemopo, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Dylan Nel, Colin Slade, Michael Little, Matt Vaega, Roland Alaia’sa, Ben Paltridge

                        Skyactivs Hiroshima: David Milo, Tevin Ferris, Isi Manu

                        DIVISION 3

                        Kurita Water Gush Akishima: Brad Hemopo

                        Kyuden Voltex: Tom Rowe, Ray Tatafu, Sam Vaka

                        Munakata Sanix Blues: Scott Curry, Jarred Adams, Joseph Tupe, Coby Miln, Karne Hesketh

                        Shimizu Koto Blue Sharks: Albert Anae, Josh Bekhuis, Murphy Taramai, Orbyn Leger, USA Baleilautoka, Siale Piutau, Dick Wilson

                        Toyota Industries Shuttles Aichi: Chris Gabriel, Taleni Seu, Luteru Laulala, Robbie Robinson

                        Not entirely accurate - E.g. - Dylan Nel was born in SA not NZ.

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          The 100 NZ-born players playing in Japan

                          DIVISION 1

                          Black Rams Tokyo: Colin Bourke, Blair Cowan, Matt McGahan, Jacob Skeen, Daymon Leasuasu, Josefa Logavatu

                          Green Rockets Tokatsu: Ash Dixon, Whetu Douglas, Lomano Lemeki, Fletcher Smith, Tom Marshall

                          Kobelco Kobe Steelers: Tom Franklin, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Brodi McCurran, Aaron Cruden, Hayden Parker, Richard Buckman, Fraser Anderson

                          Kubota Spears Funabashi Tokyo Bay: Ryan Crotty

                          Saitama Wild Knights: Hadleigh Parkes, Lachlan Boshier, Vince Aso, Craig Millar, Mark Abbott

                          Shining Arcs Tokyo Bay Urayasu: Otere Black, Brackin Karauria-Henry, Jimmy Tupou, Luke Thompson, Anaru Rangi, Sekonaia Pole

                          Shizuoka Blue Revs: Malo Tuitama, Keagan Faria

                          Tokyo Sungoliath: Damian McKenzie, Tevita Li, Hendrik Tui, Tom Sanders, Joe Latta

                          Toshiba Brave Lupus: Matt Todd, Seta Tamanivalu, Tom Taylor, Johnny Fa’auli, Tim Bateman, Jack Stratton, Jacob Pierce, Nik McCurran, Michael Leitch, Warner Dearns

                          Toyota Verblitz: Patrick Tuipulotu, Michael Allardice, Tiaan Falcon, Charlie Lawrence, Rob Thompson, Male Sa’u, Will Tupou, Jamie Henry

                          Yokohama Canon Eagles: Liaki Moli

                          DIVISION 2

                          Hanazono Kintetsu Liners: Jed Brown, Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa

                          Hino Red Dolphins: Nasi Manu, Ash Parker, Augustine Pulu, Hayden Cripps, Jack Debreczeni, TJ Faiane, Chance Peni, Gillies Kaka

                          Kamaishi Seawaves: Morgan Mitchell, Ben Nee-Nee, Sam Henwood, Brett Cameron, Cameron Bailey

                          Mie Honda Heat: Tethui Roberts, Matt Duffie

                          Mitsubishi Sagamihara DynaBoars: Jackson Hemopo, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Dylan Nel, Colin Slade, Michael Little, Matt Vaega, Roland Alaia’sa, Ben Paltridge

                          Skyactivs Hiroshima: David Milo, Tevin Ferris, Isi Manu

                          DIVISION 3

                          Kurita Water Gush Akishima: Brad Hemopo

                          Kyuden Voltex: Tom Rowe, Ray Tatafu, Sam Vaka

                          Munakata Sanix Blues: Scott Curry, Jarred Adams, Joseph Tupe, Coby Miln, Karne Hesketh

                          Shimizu Koto Blue Sharks: Albert Anae, Josh Bekhuis, Murphy Taramai, Orbyn Leger, USA Baleilautoka, Siale Piutau, Dick Wilson

                          Toyota Industries Shuttles Aichi: Chris Gabriel, Taleni Seu, Luteru Laulala, Robbie Robinson

                          Not entirely accurate - E.g. - Dylan Nel was born in SA not NZ.

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy I assume this is the source?

                          https://www.nzsportswire.com/2022/01/07/mckenzie-among-100-kiwis-set-for-japan-rugby-league-one/

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy I assume this is the source?

                            https://www.nzsportswire.com/2022/01/07/mckenzie-among-100-kiwis-set-for-japan-rugby-league-one/

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                            @Stargazer I just found the list on Reddit. It looks to be the same.

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                              It's weird how they list players like Anaru Rangi, Hendrik Tui and Chance Peni, but forget Quade Cooper.

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                                I have gone through a few months of media releases from the Top League One to look at the player (and coach) movements.

                                No signings of NZ players announced, yet. There are several players (and coaches) leaving their club, though.
                                These players who are leaving their club may obviously decide to stay in Japan and just move to another club. A few may retire, and others may decide to leave Japan to either return to NZ or to go elsewhere (MLR, for example).

                                Also good to note that these announcements may sometimes be published after players have already left.


                                Bryce Robins (skills coach) leaving Shining Arcs Tokyo
                                Joe Maddock (assistant coach) leaving Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo
                                Greg Cooper (head coach) leaving Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Sagamihara Dynabours
                                Nick Collins (performance director) leaving Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Sagamihara Dynabours
                                Simon Cron (head coach) leaving Toyota Verblitz
                                Dave Dillon (manager) leaving Kobelco Kobe Steelers
                                Ben Herring (assistant coach) leaving Hino Red Dolphins

                                Johnny Fa'auli leaving Toshiba Brave Lupus Tokyo
                                Colin Slade leaving Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Sagamihara Dynabours
                                Michael Little leaving Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Sagamihara Dynabours
                                Joe Latta leaving Tokyo Sungoliath
                                Damian McKenzie leaving Tokyo Sungoliath
                                Matt Duffie leaving Mie Honda Heat (retiring)
                                Morgan Mitchell leaving Kamaishi Seawaves RFC
                                Sam Henwood leaving Kamaishi Seawaves RFC
                                Brett Cameron leaving Kamaishi Seawaves RFC
                                Colin Bourke leaving Ricoh Black Rams Tokyo
                                Daymon Leasuasu leaving Ricoh Black Rams Tokyo
                                Fletcher Smith leaving NEC Green Rockets Tokatsu
                                Patrick Tuipulotu leaving Toyota Verblitz
                                Nasi Manu leaving Hino Red Dolphins
                                Jack Debreczeni leaving Hino Red Dolphins
                                Hayden Cripps leaving Hino Red Dolphins
                                Gillies Kaka leaving Hino Red Dolphins
                                Hayden Parker leaving Kobelco Kobe Steelers
                                Aaron Cruden leaving Kobelco Kobe Steelers
                                Ben Smith leaving Kobelco Kobe Steelers
                                Fraser Anderson leaving Kobelco Kobe Steelers
                                Jordan Smiler leaving Toyota Industries Shuttles Aichi
                                Robbie Robinson leaving Toyota Industries Shuttles Aichi
                                Luteru Laulala leaving Toyota Industries Shuttles Aichi

                                last checked on Sunday, 5 June 2022

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                                  Just saw a media release saying that Sanix has completely withdrawn Munakata Sanix Blues from the Top League One. They had tried to transfer the club to a third party, but were unsuccessful.

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                                    Just saw a media release saying that Sanix has completely withdrawn Munakata Sanix Blues from the Top League One. They had tried to transfer the club to a third party, but were unsuccessful.

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                                    @Stargazer said in Japanese Rugby:

                                    Just saw a media release saying that Sanix has completely withdrawn Munakata Sanix Blues from the Top League One. They had tried to transfer the club to a third party, but were unsuccessful.

                                    Any big names in that team?

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                                      @Stargazer said in Japanese Rugby:

                                      Just saw a media release saying that Sanix has completely withdrawn Munakata Sanix Blues from the Top League One. They had tried to transfer the club to a third party, but were unsuccessful.

                                      Any big names in that team?

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                                      @Machpants said in Japanese Rugby:

                                      @Stargazer said in Japanese Rugby:

                                      Just saw a media release saying that Sanix has completely withdrawn Munakata Sanix Blues from the Top League One. They had tried to transfer the club to a third party, but were unsuccessful.

                                      Any big names in that team?

                                      Not really: Scott Curry? Some other kiwis are Joseph Tupe (De La Salle), Jarred Adams (Wesley), Coby Miln (HBS), Dallas Tatana.

                                      With the yen so weak and the economy not going that well here, I wouldn't be surprised to see Japan become less attractive as salaries may fall in both facets (real, exchange). Some companies will invest far less in the teams as they will face pressure from shareholders.

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                                        Also Karne Hesketh, whose partner is Black Fern Carla Hohepa. I assume that's why Paddy Ryan returned to NSW.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @Machpants said in Japanese Rugby:

                                          @Stargazer said in Japanese Rugby:

                                          Just saw a media release saying that Sanix has completely withdrawn Munakata Sanix Blues from the Top League One. They had tried to transfer the club to a third party, but were unsuccessful.

                                          Any big names in that team?

                                          Not really: Scott Curry? Some other kiwis are Joseph Tupe (De La Salle), Jarred Adams (Wesley), Coby Miln (HBS), Dallas Tatana.

                                          With the yen so weak and the economy not going that well here, I wouldn't be surprised to see Japan become less attractive as salaries may fall in both facets (real, exchange). Some companies will invest far less in the teams as they will face pressure from shareholders.

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                                          @gt12 Yeah, and Scott Curry was always going to return to the AB7s anyway.

                                          @Bovidae said in Japanese Rugby:

                                          Also Karne Hesketh, whose partner is Black Fern Carla Hohepa. I assume that's why Paddy Ryan returned to NSW.

                                          I assume that Napier Boys' product Hesketh - who played 35 games (4 seasons) for Otago - must be close to retirement, considering he's 36.

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