Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
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<p>Bet that wasn't even deliberate!</p>
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<p>Was wondering which Dad would see that joke first.......</p>
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<p>We've all been in situations where it seems like time stands still but again, you don't stay at a place for that long and not leave without a deal. Sounds like a combination of shit salesman and pussy family.</p> -
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THREE FUCKEN HOURS TO DEMONSTRATE A VACUUM ?!?!?!?!?!?!<br><br>
In other words two Rugby games or three episodes of GOT back to back. I love how cheap and nasty the "gift" is too.</p></blockquote>
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The $6 gift part is gold . To be honest if a fuckwit of that magnitude came around I'd keep him there till midnight demonstrating the thing in every room cleaning my house from top to bottom including my workshop with its usual inch layer of sawdust in the floor and then tell him I wasn't interested . I'd offer to give his gift back though. <br><br>
John Banks apparently got his start selling vacuums, he'd get a housewife to invite her friends around , he'd shout cakes and stuff and the housewife was told if she sold five she'd get a vacuum for free. -
<p>we had someone turn up on our doorstep selling art about 5 years back.</p>
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<p>They had a picture my wife loved, and was offered at a reasonable price, so we bought one...the Israeli girl selling the pics was rather hot too, but that was not the point.</p>
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<p>Was an article in the paper the next week about people selling art door to door that were copies.</p>
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<p>Now art is a pretty subjective thing, so you are willing to pay what you are willing to pay...we saw similar pictures in actual shops for the similar prices, and I am 99.9% certain these were copies too, but apparently this isn't a problem?</p> -
<p>Shitty Warehouse platter with the price tag still attached. Giant red 'fuck off' flag right there.</p>
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<p>When I read that story, I was of the same mindset as others. It is YOUR house, people. If you ask them to leave and they don't, you get the trusty cricket bat from the shed and say I'm giving you one minute to exit, then the vacuum cleaner gets it. Or you say the police are on their way, as you are now trespassing.</p>
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<p>Far worse are the comments that say salespeople stayed til midnight or 1am. Like WTF??? Grow some fucking balls and throw them out. (This of course does not apply to the elderly. But they should grow some balls and phone the nearest family member to assist if they get trapped like this.)</p> -
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<p>The $6 gift part is gold . To be honest if a fuckwit of that magnitude came around I'd keep him there till midnight demonstrating the thing in every room cleaning my house from top to bottom including my workshop with its usual inch layer of sawdust in the floor and then tell him I wasn't interested . I'd offer to give his gift back though.<br><br>
John Banks apparently got his start selling vacuums, he'd get a housewife to invite her friends around , he'd shout cakes and stuff and the housewife was told if she sold five she'd get a vacuum for free.</p>
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<p>Slightly different but I knew a guy that got called by a scammer that was trying to get him to log into his PC and give him all his details so he could hack him. He had nothing better to do so spent 3 hours on the phone with the guy, pretending to do everything he was asking but for some reason it "wasn't working". Once he got bored he told the guy he didn't actually have a PC. He could hear a tirade of abuse from the scammer as he hung up the phone.</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjg5c_EgYjNAhXDF5QKHQilCFMQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Fgallery%2FZ8zV8&psig=AFQjCNHoRE4WPGUgXwPkDJq_u9K4UrREvA&ust=1464911107483646'><img height="360" src="http://i.imgur.com/cy5d9UI.jpg" width="480" alt="cy5d9UI.jpg"></a></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjg5c_EgYjNAhXDF5QKHQilCFMQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Fgallery%2FZ8zV8&psig=AFQjCNHoRE4WPGUgXwPkDJq_u9K4UrREvA&ust=1464911107483646'><img height="360" src="http://i.imgur.com/cy5d9UI.jpg" width="480" alt="cy5d9UI.jpg"></a></p>
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<p>I'm still waiting on several million owed by someone in Nigeria. Any day now......when it comes in I'll shout everyone on the fern on a holiday of their choice.</p> -
<p>.....and so it continues........</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80665378/vacuum-salesman-stays-until-1am-leaves-pile-of-dust'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80665378/vacuum-salesman-stays-until-1am-leaves-pile-of-dust</a></p>
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<p>I'm trying to figure out what people think they gain from going to the media ( and the one from the other day was on TV last night, TV was muted and I was visiting mates so didn't hear it ) do they think we're going to be heartbroken by their plight, ie their "plight" being they're too fucken weak to tell these fluffybunnys to leave 4 hours and 55 minutes earlier ?</p>
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<p>I've worked in Sales and Marketing in various degrees most of my working life, I understand that with stuff like this there has to be a bit of a formula to follow in your presentation, you address objections before they are asked etc, but FIVE FUCKEN HOURS !?!?!?!? something isn't adding up. Over Summer about 20 years ago I sold video card subscriptions door to door, longest I would have stayed at a house was half an hour tops. In a couple of months of that I got bitten quite badly by a dog, had an old lady call the police, had a hot chick answer topless....and occasionally made some sales. </p>
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<p>"Pressure" sales tactics are a thing of the past now, especially as people are savvy enough to research stuff on the net nowadays. You just have to compare Car Salespeople and Real Estate Agents from yesteryear to now. Sounds like this company need to have a serious look at their business ethics.</p> -
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<p>.....and so it continues........</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80665378/vacuum-salesman-stays-until-1am-leaves-pile-of-dust'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80665378/vacuum-salesman-stays-until-1am-leaves-pile-of-dust</a></p>
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<p>I'm trying to figure out what people think they gain from going to the media ( and the one from the other day was on TV last night, TV was muted and I was visiting mates so didn't hear it ) do they think we're going to be heartbroken by their plight, ie their "plight" being they're too fucken weak to tell these fluffybunnys to leave 4 hours and 55 minutes earlier ?</p>
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<p>I've worked in Sales and Marketing in various degrees most of my working life, I understand that with stuff like this there has to be a bit of a formula to follow in your presentation, you address objections before they are asked etc, but FIVE FUCKEN HOURS !?!?!?!? something isn't adding up. Over Summer about 20 years ago I sold video card subscriptions door to door, longest I would have stayed at a house was half an hour tops. In a couple of months of that I got bitten quite badly by a dog, had an old lady call the police, <strong>had a hot chick answer topless</strong>....and occasionally made some sales. </p>
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<p>"Pressure" sales tactics are a thing of the past now, especially as people are savvy enough to research stuff on the net nowadays. You just have to compare Car Salespeople and Real Estate Agents from yesteryear to now. Sounds like this company need to have a serious look at their business ethics.</p>
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<p>Pics or it didn't happen.</p> -
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<p>Pics or it didn't happen.</p>
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<p>My Nokia brick didn't have a camera sorry brudda. I don't even think it could text but it stored TEN ( yes TEN ) phone numbers.....</p> -
Yet another case of stuff pandering to the fuckwits ferals and bogans amongst us and not asking the simple question of how bloody stupid and weak are you letting this guy in your house till 1am?<br><br>
Earlier this week there was the tale of the newborn living rough, if you read the story the feral parents had trashed a few flats and no one wanted to rent to them and they didn't want to go to winz for an emergency benefit because they thought they might take the baby from them . I would have thought that would have been the best outcome did the baby myself. -
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<p>The woman in Australia said she was 18 when she took out a $6500 loan for a social sciences course at a polytechnic.</p>
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<p>She did not complete the course after getting pregnant, and after five years as a solo mother left for Australia to try and make a better life.</p>
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<p>"I never blinked an eye or even thought about my loan," she said. That changed when she read about recent crack-downs on defaulters, and phoned the IRD.</p>
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<p>She said she was told her loan after 21 years was now about $30,000.</p>
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<p>"I went into complete shock, I was petrified and shocked that over the period of 21 years my loan had increased 4 times the amount borrowed."</p>
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<p>I would never have thought that if you took out a loan and didn't pay it back, after 20 years you would still owe it, plus a whole lot more, I really do have a lot to learn!</p> -
<p>cos she well, um, you know, she didn't, well, I think...</p>
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<p>actually I got nothing!</p>
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<p>Imagine taking just a 10 year holiday from paying your mortgage, how much that would increase....</p> -
<p>They got the headline wrong on that one. It should say</p>
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<p>"NZ Taxpayer funds Australia based New Zealander who tried to avoid her loan by skipping the country"</p>
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<p>And then the first line should comment how she thinks that her 20 year old loan now shouldn't be subject to any interest, because she's been paying zero tax to the NZ government since she took the loan out.</p>
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<p>Seriously, she can fuck right off.</p> -
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<p>They got the headline wrong on that one. It should say</p>
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<p>"NZ Taxpayer funds Australia based New Zealander who tried to avoid her loan by skipping the country"</p>
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<p>Don't take this the wrong way, but don't don't give up your day job to become a headline writer. :)</p>
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<p>They've got to be short and catchy!</p>
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<p>MORON IN SHIT.</p> -
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<p>Don't take this the wrong way, but don't don't give up your day job to become a headline writer. :)</p>
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<p>They've got to be short and catchy!</p>
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<p>MORON IN SHIT.</p>
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<p>Proper, proper LOL with coffee going into the keyboard. My post of the year, right there.</p> -
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<p>Don't take this the wrong way, but don't don't give up your day job to become a headline writer. :)</p>
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<p>They've got to be short and catchy!</p>
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<p>ANOTHER MORON IN SHIT.</p>
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<p>I am sick to death of hearing about the fuckwits living overseas, who borrowed money, haven't paid a single cent back (some over multiple decades) and now go on a whinge fest at the thought they might be arrested if they come home. It's a fucking LOAN. If you don't pay it back, it ACCUMULATES INTEREST. Ignoring the IRD is NEVER A GOOD PLAN.</p>
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<p>I borrowed about 28k to get my quals. Interest took it to 42k (I was in the fortunate time of 8% interest, clocked up from day 1.). I went overseas to teach English, and sent money home each month to my mum, and she paid the IRD. Knocked 26k off the debt in a year, then paid the rest off (minimum repayments) from my salaries. Paid the last bit off in 2009.</p>
