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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    Veteran All Blacks loosehead prop Joe Moody will not play again in 2022.

    Moody ruptured the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee during the Crusaders’ 27-23 loss to the Blues in their Super Rugby Pacific match in Christchurch last weekend, and requires surgery.

    A statement from the Crusaders on Thursday morning confirmed Moody has been assessed by a medical specialist, who confirmed fears that Moody will not pull on the boots again this year.

    What a bummer. Wish Joe speedy recovery.

    Ethan and Karl in, with one of Hodgman/Ross/Norris.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    What a bummer. Wish Joe speedy recovery.

    Yeah he'll leave a big gap in the squad even though his form around the field has been questionable

    33 years old, turning 34 later this year.

    It's going to be difficult to get up to speed again in RWC year

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      ACL injuries are rare for props? Poor guy.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

        What a bummer. Wish Joe speedy recovery.

        Yeah he'll leave a big gap in the squad even though his form around the field has been questionable

        33 years old, turning 34 later this year.

        It's going to be difficult to get up to speed again in RWC year

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        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

        @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

        What a bummer. Wish Joe speedy recovery.

        Yeah he'll leave a big gap in the squad even though his form around the field has been questionable

        33 years old, turning 34 later this year.

        It's going to be difficult to get up to speed again in RWC year

        Remember when he came into RWC 2015? His passing and running skills are a long way down from that.

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            That's a pretty big loss but the silverlining is that someone like big Ethan De Groot should get plenty of minutes to show what he's got.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              That's a pretty big loss but the silverlining is that someone like big Ethan De Groot should get plenty of minutes to show what he's got.

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              @Canes4life I have not been impressed with de Groot at all. His work rate around the field has been underwhelming. Karl T to start, Hodgman off the bench to finish.

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                @Canes4life I have not been impressed with de Groot at all. His work rate around the field has been underwhelming. Karl T to start, Hodgman off the bench to finish.

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                @number9

                How can you talk about work rate and then want Tu'inukuafe in your starting XV?

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                  @number9

                  How can you talk about work rate and then want Tu'inukuafe in your starting XV?

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                  @Bovidae soften them up at scrum time. Teams come out firing at the start of the game, finish with pace and fitness off the bench. De Groot and Bower have been exposed.

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                    @Bovidae soften them up at scrum time. Teams come out firing at the start of the game, finish with pace and fitness off the bench. De Groot and Bower have been exposed.

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                    @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bovidae soften them up at scrum time. Teams come out firing at the start of the game, finish with pace and fitness off the bench. De Groot and Bower have been exposed.

                    Sometimes there aren't that many scrums so I think we should be focusing on what the props do around the field, particularly ball-carrying and their tackling.

                    I don't rate Bower either, but de Groot hasn't had that many opportunities, and none against top level teams yet. The only non-capped LH prop who could force his way in is Aidan Ross. He was brought into the AB squad last year so must be in the mix.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Bovidae soften them up at scrum time. Teams come out firing at the start of the game, finish with pace and fitness off the bench. De Groot and Bower have been exposed.

                      Sometimes there aren't that many scrums so I think we should be focusing on what the props do around the field, particularly ball-carrying and their tackling.

                      I don't rate Bower either, but de Groot hasn't had that many opportunities, and none against top level teams yet. The only non-capped LH prop who could force his way in is Aidan Ross. He was brought into the AB squad last year so must be in the mix.

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                      @Bovidae I prefer Ross over de Groot
                      , so a propping trio of Karl, Hodgman and Ross will work.

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                      • number9N number9

                        @Bovidae I prefer Ross over de Groot
                        , so a propping trio of Karl, Hodgman and Ross will work.

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                        @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Bovidae I prefer Ross over de Groot
                        , so a propping trio of Karl, Hodgman and Ross will work.

                        And a move to the blues for Ross eh

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                          What a bummer. Wish Joe speedy recovery.

                          Yeah he'll leave a big gap in the squad even though his form around the field has been questionable

                          33 years old, turning 34 later this year.

                          It's going to be difficult to get up to speed again in RWC year

                          Remember when he came into RWC 2015? His passing and running skills are a long way down from that.

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                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                          What a bummer. Wish Joe speedy recovery.

                          Yeah he'll leave a big gap in the squad even though his form around the field has been questionable

                          33 years old, turning 34 later this year.

                          It's going to be difficult to get up to speed again in RWC year

                          Remember when he came into RWC 2015? His passing and running skills are a long way down from that.

                          2015 Joe amazed me with reverse pass offload in French quarter! Just what we need now...

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Bovidae I prefer Ross over de Groot
                            , so a propping trio of Karl, Hodgman and Ross will work.

                            And a move to the blues for Ross eh

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                            @Bones I wouldn't be surprised if the contract is in the post.

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                              @Bones I wouldn't be surprised if the contract is in the post.

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                              @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bones I wouldn't be surprised if the contract is in the post.

                              Uh oh. Trouble in paradise.

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/john-kirwan-names-his-first-choice-all-blacks-23-man-team-cleaning-house-of-crusaders-players/

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                                Not sure if this update has been posted for ALB as well

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones I wouldn't be surprised if the contract is in the post.

                                  Uh oh. Trouble in paradise.

                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/john-kirwan-names-his-first-choice-all-blacks-23-man-team-cleaning-house-of-crusaders-players/

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                                  @Bones got this sick sense that the abs squad announcement this yr will start off something along the lines.. Asafo Aumua, Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Scott Barrett, Ethan Blackadder, George Bower, George Bridge😭

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    Not sure if this update has been posted for ALB as well

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                                    @taniwharugby Yes, here, but I'm sure some will have missed the little arrow if they don't know how instagram works.

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                                      @taniwharugby Yes, here, but I'm sure some will have missed the little arrow if they don't know how instagram works.

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                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @taniwharugby Yes, here, but I'm sure some will have missed the little arrow if they don't know how instagram works.

                                      Insta what?

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        That's a pretty big loss but the silverlining is that someone like big Ethan De Groot should get plenty of minutes to show what he's got.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        That's a pretty big loss but the silverlining is that someone like big Ethan De Groot should get plenty of minutes to show what he's got.

                                        I like Hodgman too, but I'm not sure Karl T or Bower are good enough for key RWC games.

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                                          Hardly news but I think AB backs are in good shape other than at 12. Havili and Tuapea are OK, but neither a unit. RTS has real promise but early days. Poihipi has also looked good there for Chiefs. Only TUJ seems to have the thrust to really bend the line running straight, but is raw.
                                          I’d like to see ABs select three 12s for squad. One unit, one classic 2nd five, and one other.

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