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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    By Big Red do you mean this year’s waste of space in the Blues.?
    He has been low quality in an area that is lacking standouts.

    He's been playing with an injury for most of the year. He was one of the best players on the field in the 25-0 game against the Chiefs

    Then he needs to recover from injury not be selected in the ABs worn out even further.

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    @Crucial

    He has recovered. Did you see that Chiefs game? What did you think of his performance against the Chiefs loosies?

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Crucial

      He has recovered. Did you see that Chiefs game? What did you think of his performance against the Chiefs loosies?

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      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial

      He has recovered. Did you see that Chiefs game? What did you think of his performance against the Chiefs loosies?

      It was very good.
      Much better than he played against the Drua in his last outing

      Even in your Blues fans MOTM points for the season he has 1 point and sits last on the table.
      He’s another Blackadder. Can turn out a good one then look ineffective.
      Good player but not what the ABs need.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Crucial

        He has recovered. Did you see that Chiefs game? What did you think of his performance against the Chiefs loosies?

        It was very good.
        Much better than he played against the Drua in his last outing

        Even in your Blues fans MOTM points for the season he has 1 point and sits last on the table.
        He’s another Blackadder. Can turn out a good one then look ineffective.
        Good player but not what the ABs need.

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

        It was very good.
        Much better than he played against the Drua in his last outing
        Even in your Blues fans MOTM points for the season he has 1 point and sits last on the table.

        Yes. He had a tricky injury early in the year.

        He was in and out of the side, bracketed in some games and was a late scratching in another. I thought during that time the Blues should've been playing Plumtree.

        They game him a couple of games off to recover. Since then he dominated against the Chiefs, had a strong game against Crusaders and a quiet game against the Drua.

        I doubt he'll make the AB squad. However he certainly hasn't been a 'waste of space' and he wasn't 'low quality' vs the Chiefs or Crusaders

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

          It was very good.
          Much better than he played against the Drua in his last outing
          Even in your Blues fans MOTM points for the season he has 1 point and sits last on the table.

          Yes. He had a tricky injury early in the year.

          He was in and out of the side, bracketed in some games and was a late scratching in another. I thought during that time the Blues should've been playing Plumtree.

          They game him a couple of games off to recover. Since then he dominated against the Chiefs, had a strong game against Crusaders and a quiet game against the Drua.

          I doubt he'll make the AB squad. However he certainly hasn't been a 'waste of space' and he wasn't 'low quality' vs the Chiefs or Crusaders

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          @Duluth I think that both Robinson and Sowakula have not been consistent enough lately - but are the ones most capable of sticking their hands up for a squad berth. Just no space with 8 incumbents playing well enough in loosies.

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          • A ARHS

            @Duluth I think that both Robinson and Sowakula have not been consistent enough lately - but are the ones most capable of sticking their hands up for a squad berth. Just no space with 8 incumbents playing well enough in loosies.

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            @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

            I think that both Robinson and Sowakula have not been consistent enough lately - but are the ones most capable of sticking their hands up for a squad berth. Just no space with 8 incumbents playing well enough in loosies.

            I think Sowakula and Frizell are better chances than Robinson. They may want someone who can play a similar role as Akira as a backup in the squad

            Robinson is a different sort of player. For him to make it, he needs some quality matches at lock and blindside IMO. He's unlikely to get time at lock now

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

              I think that both Robinson and Sowakula have not been consistent enough lately - but are the ones most capable of sticking their hands up for a squad berth. Just no space with 8 incumbents playing well enough in loosies.

              I think Sowakula and Frizell are better chances than Robinson. They may want someone who can play a similar role as Akira as a backup in the squad

              Robinson is a different sort of player. For him to make it, he needs some quality matches at lock and blindside IMO. He's unlikely to get time at lock now

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              @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

              Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @ARHS said in All Blacks 2022:

                I think that both Robinson and Sowakula have not been consistent enough lately - but are the ones most capable of sticking their hands up for a squad berth. Just no space with 8 incumbents playing well enough in loosies.

                I think Sowakula and Frizell are better chances than Robinson. They may want someone who can play a similar role as Akira as a backup in the squad

                Robinson is a different sort of player. For him to make it, he needs some quality matches at lock and blindside IMO. He's unlikely to get time at lock now

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                Robinson is a different sort of player. For him to make it, he needs some quality matches at lock and blindside IMO. He's unlikely to get time at lock now

                Will Robinson even start now that Akira is back?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Robinson is a different sort of player. For him to make it, he needs some quality matches at lock and blindside IMO. He's unlikely to get time at lock now

                  Will Robinson even start now that Akira is back?

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                  @Bovidae

                  Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                  I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    Question - has Fakatava's eligibility for the ABs this year been sorted out?

                    Last year, when he got injured it seemed like new rules were going to exclude him until 2023.

                    Google doesn't immediately throw up something saying he's clear to be selected.

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                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Question - has Fakatava's eligibility for the ABs this year been sorted out?

                    Last year, when he got injured it seemed like new rules were going to exclude him until 2023.

                    Google doesn't immediately throw up something saying he's clear to be selected.

                    If they haven't sorted it out, he will be eligible in December, this year. So too late for the Northern Tour. They could still include him as an apprentice, and if they organise games for the All Blacks XV (which hasn't been nominated as NZ's 2nd XV), he can play in those games.

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                      I hope MMT has more chance to break into the ABs than Big Red. We can use that strength and size. He's getting into great form and is pushing for a spot really hard.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                        Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                        Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                        If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                          Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                          If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                          Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                          If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

                          One thing I like about Vaa’i is that he paces himself well. Lord ran himself into the ground the other night but was little more effective than Vaa’i, then as he went off TV stepped up another gear for a burst. You often see him go big as the opposition reserves come on.

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Bovidae

                            Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                            I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

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                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Bovidae

                            Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                            I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                            You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                            Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                              Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                              If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

                              One thing I like about Vaa’i is that he paces himself well. Lord ran himself into the ground the other night but was little more effective than Vaa’i, then as he went off TV stepped up another gear for a burst. You often see him go big as the opposition reserves come on.

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                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                              Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                              If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

                              One thing I like about Vaa’i is that he paces himself well. Lord ran himself into the ground the other night but was little more effective than Vaa’i, then as he went off TV stepped up another gear for a burst. You often see him go big as the opposition reserves come on.

                              The hit on Paisami on Saturday would do any 6 proud.

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                                @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                                Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                                If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

                                One thing I like about Vaa’i is that he paces himself well. Lord ran himself into the ground the other night but was little more effective than Vaa’i, then as he went off TV stepped up another gear for a burst. You often see him go big as the opposition reserves come on.

                                The hit on Paisami on Saturday would do any 6 proud.

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                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Duluth he's certainly been quiet compared to previous seasons, still gets through some work though, just not at the level he had been, but is getting back to it now.

                                Yeah I dont think he will make it this year either, and the way selections go, it is pretty tough breaking into the ABs, especially in a congested loosie spot.

                                If TWM are looking for a 5.5 then IMO Vaa’i is the man.

                                One thing I like about Vaa’i is that he paces himself well. Lord ran himself into the ground the other night but was little more effective than Vaa’i, then as he went off TV stepped up another gear for a burst. You often see him go big as the opposition reserves come on.

                                The hit on Paisami on Saturday would do any 6 proud.

                                Only a second or so after another tackle as well. Bang, bang!

                                Kaino like. (ducks for cover)

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bovidae

                                  Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                  I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                  You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                  Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

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                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bovidae

                                  Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                  I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                  You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                  Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                  Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Bovidae

                                    Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                    I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                    You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                    Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                    Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Bovidae

                                    Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                    I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                    You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                    Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                    Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

                                    Robinson is only a lock by Hurricanes standards.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bovidae

                                      Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                      I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                      You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                      Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                      Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

                                      Robinson is only a lock by Hurricanes standards.

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                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bovidae

                                      Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                      I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                      You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                      Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                      Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

                                      Robinson is only a lock by Hurricanes standards.

                                      Yeah, that's patently untrue. He's played well there.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bovidae

                                        Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                        I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                        You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                        Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                        Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

                                        Robinson is only a lock by Hurricanes standards.

                                        Yeah, that's patently untrue. He's played well there.

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                                        @Kirwan yeah, he is only 1cm shorter than Luke Romano (IIRC, played a few tests) so I dont think it'd be an issue putting him at lock if needed.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bovidae

                                          Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                          I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                          You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                          Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                          Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

                                          Robinson is only a lock by Hurricanes standards.

                                          Yeah, that's patently untrue. He's played well there.

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                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bovidae

                                          Yeah he’s unlikely to start at lock or 6 unless there’s injuries

                                          I would like to see the Blues try a Dalton/Akira/Robinson combo. Maybe against the Brumbies

                                          You’d want Sotutu’s current work rate against the Brumbies, surely?
                                          Maybe your combo as a reshuffle into the game?

                                          Having Robinson and Akira together would help the lineout, basically three locks and Akira is used alot in the lineout.

                                          Robinson is only a lock by Hurricanes standards.

                                          Yeah, that's patently untrue. He's played well there.

                                          In big games against decent locks? Even the Canes maligned locks have the odd good game but never when up against internationals

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