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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @FakatavaFuture said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @chimoaus very true about the chiefs , also how did I forget Brodie and Brad

    I was about to post about those 2 obvious omissions. πŸ™‚

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    @booboo said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @booboo said in Hurricanes v Reds:

    I'm kind of worried that we rate ourselves (NZ teams) so highly and Aus teams so low.

    But I've said that before and results continue to be one sided.

    Just reminder.

    Pride comes before a fall.

    Think our teams have misunderestimated ( πŸ™‚ ) the Ockers.

    Having said that am reading a fair bit if triumphalism in Strayan Rugby Twitter.

    I'd urge caution on both sides.

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  • kiwi_expatK Offline
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    #1189

    Fairly confident the final will be contested between the two teams starting with 'B' however home advantage will be key, I could potentially see the Brumbies pipping Blues in a close one if they're forced to travel to Canberra, McKellar's record at GIO stadium (and also against the NZ franchises) is impressive. Superior to any Aussie coach's record versus Kiwi teams since McKenzie & White.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #1190

    Call it arrogant if you will but I am not too concerned about NZ team performances over the last two weeks.
    We were deep into the comp after a diet of brutal derbies, Covid shuffles and short turnarounds with many niggles and injuries. The convict teams needed those home wins more than we did in many cases. What we needed was as many table points as we could muster while getting ready for the latter part of the RR and the finals.
    I think that the foot was slightly off the gas in many cases, saving fuel for the late laps.

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    @Tim That is a bummer for the Reds, such a powerful player. He will be lacking some match fitness come the July Internationals.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #1193

    The sideline commentator seemed to be downplaying the seriousness of Tupou's injury on Friday night.

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    #1194

    Were any judiciary hearings held last night?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #1195

    Now official, with kick-off time (FJT = NZT):

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    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:

    Were any judiciary hearings held last night?

    Aren't they Tues night? I don't know but haven't seen anything.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #1197

    Hamish Dalzell gets 3 weeks.
    Ray Nu'u gets 4 weeks.

    On the news last night it was mentioned that Barrett is the latest to get a 1 week reduction. πŸ€·πŸ»β™‚

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300579726/super-rugby-pacific-crusaders-lock-hamish-dalzell-banned-for-three-weeks

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    #1198

    @Bovidae Yep, that was in Barrett's decision. It isn't in Nu'u's second one.

    For completeness, because it's not mentioned in the article. Samipeni Finau was issued a warning.

    "Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles

    and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,

    Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the red card

    threshold."

    "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a

    Warning as it was close to, but did not breach the red card threshold. The Foul Play Review

    Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the tackler having lowered his

    body height to effect the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."

    "The player is therefore free to resume playing.”

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:

    @Bovidae Yep, that was in Barrett's decision. It isn't in Nu'u's second one.

    For completeness, because it's not mentioned in the article. Samipeni Finau was issued a warning.

    "Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles

    and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,

    Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the red card

    threshold."

    "With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a

    Warning as it was close to, but did not breach the red card threshold. The Foul Play Review

    Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the tackler having lowered his

    body height to effect the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."

    "The player is therefore free to resume playing.”

    So basically Jacobson was correct in querying the ref who had placed way to much emphasis on irrelevant factors. Saying that Finau’s situation was more dangerous than the earlier game decision because he (legally) came out of the defensive line was ridiculous.
    The refs have well prescribed guidelines for mitigating and exacerbating factors and doing your job is not in either.

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    #1200

    I don't know if the coaching are worse overall than in the past or not. But Holland seems to be struggling big time but Canes have had poor head coaches in the fairly recent past. And starting out. Boyd was VG but in part he was lucky to have Plumtree as an assistant.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/new-zealand-s-teams-are-getting-worse-and-a-good-deal-of-that-is-down-to-coaching/ar-AAWTyUR?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bf2a464334fa44f496e9ed7e42144e21

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    @Winger i don't completely disagree, we put players in too early...just because Lomu could play with men doesn't make everyone lomu and NZR is becoming more and more a closed shop, in every aspect, coaching, players, everything and everyone already in that shop talking up everyone else

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #1202

    Not sure how to interpret this.

    freedomvahaakolo

    Rugby is a fickle business. Painful and unfair things happen to us all and it’s okay to feel sad or frustrated because it shows you care.

    When a situation continues to be detrimental to your mental health and well-being, you have to find the courage to get out - even if it means reviewing your dreams and starting from the ground up again. I am grateful to the boys who have come to war with me off the field and kept me going πŸ‘ŠπŸΎ

    I am excited about the challenge of the next chapter. My body is healthy. My mind is at peace. I got an awesome family. What more do I need ❀

    He's playing club rugby in Dunedin tomorrow:

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by kiwi_expat
    #1204

    @Bovidae said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:

    Hopefully a few more players like Retallick, Ioane and Weber are back on deck this weekend or next, maybe even Stevenson. McMillan really needs to decide on his best back three from here on, and must realise that Gatland and Trask can't start together.

    The Chiefs have played the 3 best Aust teams to date so as long as they win their remaining 3 games should secure 4th position and a home QF. That said, their away record is much better than their home record this season.

    It looks increasingly likely that Kiwi teams are going to end up occupying positions 1-2 & 4-6, this assuming Reds/Brumbies lose to both the Crusaders & Blues in their remaining fixtures.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:

    Hopefully a few more players like Retallick, Ioane and Weber are back on deck this weekend or next, maybe even Stevenson. McMillan really needs to decide on his best back three from here on, and must realise that Gatland and Trask can't start together.

    The Chiefs have played the 3 best Aust teams to date so as long as they win their remaining 3 games should secure 4th position and a home QF. That said, their away record is much better than their home record this season.

    It looks increasingly likely that Kiwi teams are going to end up occupying positions 1-2 & 4-6, this assuming Reds/Brumbies lose to both the Crusaders & Blues in their remaining fixtures.

    Big assumption

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  • ChrisC Away
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Chris
    #1206

    @Machpants said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:

    @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in Chiefs vs Brumbies:

    Hopefully a few more players like Retallick, Ioane and Weber are back on deck this weekend or next, maybe even Stevenson. McMillan really needs to decide on his best back three from here on, and must realise that Gatland and Trask can't start together.

    The Chiefs have played the 3 best Aust teams to date so as long as they win their remaining 3 games should secure 4th position and a home QF. That said, their away record is much better than their home record this season.

    It looks increasingly likely that Kiwi teams are going to end up occupying positions 1-2 & 4-6, this assuming Reds/Brumbies lose to both the Crusaders & Blues in their remaining fixtures.

    Big assumption

    Yeah a lot of water under the Bridge before that happens.
    Crusaders have to beat the Brumbies in Canberra so do the Blues.
    Canes have to beat the Warratahs in Sydney all tough games.

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