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Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?

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    bobily2
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    Should be able to put out a reasonable team if everyone is available. Something like:

    1.Ollie Norris
    2.Kurt Eklund
    3.Jermaine Ainsley
    4.Isaia Walker-Leawere
    5.Manaaki Selby-Rickitt
    6.Luke Jacobson/Caleb Delany
    7.Billy Harmon
    8.Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
    9.TJ Perenara/Brad Weber/Cortez Ratima
    10.Stephen Perofeta
    11.Shaun Stevenson
    12.Quinn Tupaea/Alex Nankivell
    13.Bailyn Sullivan
    14.Jonah Lowe
    15.Zarn Sullivan

    16.Tyrone Thompson
    17.Pouri Rakete-Stones/Tamaiti Williams/Atu Moli
    18.Tyrel Lomax
    19.Josh Dickson
    20.Tyler Laubscher
    21.Cortez Ratima/Bryn Hall
    22.Josh Ioane
    23.Billy Proctor

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      Should be able to put out a reasonable team if everyone is available. Something like:

      1.Ollie Norris
      2.Kurt Eklund
      3.Jermaine Ainsley
      4.Isaia Walker-Leawere
      5.Manaaki Selby-Rickitt
      6.Luke Jacobson/Caleb Delany
      7.Billy Harmon
      8.Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
      9.TJ Perenara/Brad Weber/Cortez Ratima
      10.Stephen Perofeta
      11.Shaun Stevenson
      12.Quinn Tupaea/Alex Nankivell
      13.Bailyn Sullivan
      14.Jonah Lowe
      15.Zarn Sullivan

      16.Tyrone Thompson
      17.Pouri Rakete-Stones/Tamaiti Williams/Atu Moli
      18.Tyrel Lomax
      19.Josh Dickson
      20.Tyler Laubscher
      21.Cortez Ratima/Bryn Hall
      22.Josh Ioane
      23.Billy Proctor

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      @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

      I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

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        @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

        I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

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        @Stargazer said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

        @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

        I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

        Doesn't surprise me, I'm not at my best today.

        I think it's just Perofeta and MMT that are ineligible? Perhaps Moli?

        Edit: Maybe Laubscher too. Google was tricking me by bringing up a Maori All Blacks story combined with another about Manawatu players on development contracts.

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          @Stargazer said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

          @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

          I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

          Doesn't surprise me, I'm not at my best today.

          I think it's just Perofeta and MMT that are ineligible? Perhaps Moli?

          Edit: Maybe Laubscher too. Google was tricking me by bringing up a Maori All Blacks story combined with another about Manawatu players on development contracts.

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          @bobily2 said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

          @Stargazer said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

          @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

          I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

          Doesn't surprise me, I'm not at my best today.

          I think it's just Perofeta and MMT that are ineligible? Perhaps Moli?

          Isn't Laubscher a Saffa? Would Ainsley be eligible considering he's a Wallaby? I don't think Jacobsen is Maori either.

          Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

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            @Stargazer said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

            @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

            I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

            Doesn't surprise me, I'm not at my best today.

            I think it's just Perofeta and MMT that are ineligible? Perhaps Moli?

            Edit: Maybe Laubscher too. Google was tricking me by bringing up a Maori All Blacks story combined with another about Manawatu players on development contracts.

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            @bobily2 As I said, I'll publish an article with the contenders soon. Laubscher is South African.

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              @bobily2 said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

              @Stargazer said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

              @bobily2 You've included quite a few non-Māori players in that squad.

              I'll publish an article on the Fern's home page soon with the contenders.

              Doesn't surprise me, I'm not at my best today.

              I think it's just Perofeta and MMT that are ineligible? Perhaps Moli?

              Isn't Laubscher a Saffa? Would Ainsley be eligible considering he's a Wallaby? I don't think Jacobsen is Maori either.

              Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

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              @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

              Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

              They will be midweek games so likely no ABs involved, unless some squadies are released.

              If Ainsley is now eligible for the ABs I suppose he is.

              Definitely no to Jacobson.

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                @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

                They will be midweek games so likely no ABs involved, unless some squadies are released.

                If Ainsley is now eligible for the ABs I suppose he is.

                Definitely no to Jacobson.

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                @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

                They will be midweek games so likely no ABs involved, unless some squadies are released.

                If Ainsley is now eligible for the ABs I suppose he is.

                Definitely no to Jacobson.

                Boo. Still @bobily2 did say if everyone was available so I was just going off that. 😉

                There was a bit of an Ioane sized hole in that lineup I didn't even pick up on if that was the case.

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                  @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                  @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                  Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

                  They will be midweek games so likely no ABs involved, unless some squadies are released.

                  If Ainsley is now eligible for the ABs I suppose he is.

                  Definitely no to Jacobson.

                  Boo. Still @bobily2 did say if everyone was available so I was just going off that. 😉

                  There was a bit of an Ioane sized hole in that lineup I didn't even pick up on if that was the case.

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                  @Nepia Maybe DMac is back in time to play.

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                    @Nepia Maybe DMac is back in time to play.

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                    @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                    @Nepia Maybe DMac is back in time to play.

                    I didn't even realise he was coming back so soon. Good chance to get him back into NZ rugby and see how his form is.

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                      @Nepia Maybe DMac is back in time to play.

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                      @Bovidae If he's considered eligible without playing games in NZ first. TJP wasn't considered for the July Series, last year. Or are there different rules for ABs and MABs?

                      Edit: and obviously needs to sign a contract with NZR, too.

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                        @Bovidae If he's considered eligible without playing games in NZ first. TJP wasn't considered for the July Series, last year. Or are there different rules for ABs and MABs?

                        Edit: and obviously needs to sign a contract with NZR, too.

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                        @Stargazer I was assuming he would have done all that. I honestly don't know what the latest is with DMac and his contract negotiations, other than he will be returning after the Japanese Top League has finished. Happy for him to play for Waikato too. 🙂

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                          @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                          Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

                          They will be midweek games so likely no ABs involved, unless some squadies are released.

                          If Ainsley is now eligible for the ABs I suppose he is.

                          Definitely no to Jacobson.

                          Boo. Still @bobily2 did say if everyone was available so I was just going off that. 😉

                          There was a bit of an Ioane sized hole in that lineup I didn't even pick up on if that was the case.

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                          @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                          @Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                          @Nepia said in Maori All Blacks vs Ireland?:

                          Also, if it's everyone available then Coles and Taylor are probably the two hookers chosen.

                          They will be midweek games so likely no ABs involved, unless some squadies are released.

                          If Ainsley is now eligible for the ABs I suppose he is.

                          Definitely no to Jacobson.

                          Boo. Still @bobily2 did say if everyone was available so I was just going off that. 😉

                          There was a bit of an Ioane sized hole in that lineup I didn't even pick up on if that was the case.

                          ... Smith ...

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                            Posted on the Fern's home page: article with list of contenders.

                            https://www.thesilverfern.com/post/undefined-maori-all-blacks-to-play-ireland

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                              I would think that Jacob Norris would have to be included so they aren't just relying on Harmon as a 7. That's a position lacking some quality and depth for the Māori.

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                                I would think that Jacob Norris would have to be included so they aren't just relying on Harmon as a 7. That's a position lacking some quality and depth for the Māori.

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                                @Bovidae You'd think so, except that last year they initially only named 3 loosies (Prinsep, Harmon, Douglas), then later called up J Norris, who was named on the bench for the first game against Samoa, but left out of the second, when they gave Josh Dickson the 20 jersey. This move from Dickson from 19 to 20 was due to Parkinson returning into the squad. So they preferred Dickson as a reserve loosie over Jacob Norris.

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                                  Yeah, but Samoa isn't Ireland and you wouldn't want to have to use Prinsep at 7 if Harmon went off early. Hell, you could form a better loose forward trio without Prinsep altogether.

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                                    Yeah, but Samoa isn't Ireland and you wouldn't want to have to use Prinsep at 7 if Harmon went off early. Hell, you could form a better loose forward trio without Prinsep altogether.

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                                    @Bovidae You'd hope they name a squad of at least 26 players, so there's room for at least 4 loosies. Whether they pick a reserve that covers 6/8 or 7 will probably depend on the quality of the eligible players that are available. There may be more eligible players than we're aware of. Who knows, they may suddenly discover that Adrian Choat or Blake Gibson have Māori ancestry! :man_shrugging_medium_skin_tone:

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                                      Cirikidaveta?

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                                        Cirikidaveta?

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                                        @Bones Technically, he doesn't play in NZ anymore, does he? It's a bit unclear now, as he may return to play for the Mako. Anyway, there's a chance he may be picked to play for Fiji. Agree he would be a good option for the Māori All Blacks though.

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                                          Is TK Howden maori ? His first name sounds like it.

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