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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Bovidae The Chiefs would be crazy if they didn't offer him a new contract. Even if some of the younger outside backs have a higher ceiling (they still have to prove it), he's certainly the Chiefs' best performing wing. I can see him - longer term - moving back to centre eventually.

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    @Stargazer
    Hmmm, the Chiefs midfield is cramped with talented players (ALB, Tupaea, Poihipi, Nankivell and maybe Wrampling) while we cannot say the same for the wings.

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      Unfortunately Gideon Wrampling re-injured his knee in the 1st half of his club match today. He bust through a number of tacklers and ended up on the ground just short of the tryline.

      If it's serious he might be out for a while. Hopefully we get some good news.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Unfortunately Gideon Wrampling re-injured his knee in the 1st half of his club match today. He bust through a number of tacklers and ended up on the ground just short of the tryline.

        If it's serious he might be out for a while. Hopefully we get some good news.

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        @Bovidae Sh*t news about the youngster! I was hoping to see more of him.

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          Ioane is keen to stay at the Chiefs.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128637116/josh-ioane-returns-from-painful-rib-injury-and-is-keen-to-extend-his-stay-at-the-chiefs

          This will largely depend on DMac's decision. Gatland still has 1 year left on his contract, while the contract duration of Trask and Reihana is unknown. I don't think you would carry four players who cover 1st 5 (3 of those also fullback) in your squad.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Ioane is keen to stay at the Chiefs.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128637116/josh-ioane-returns-from-painful-rib-injury-and-is-keen-to-extend-his-stay-at-the-chiefs

            This will largely depend on DMac's decision. Gatland still has 1 year left on his contract, while the contract duration of Trask and Reihana is unknown. I don't think you would carry four players who cover 1st 5 (3 of those also fullback) in your squad.

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            @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

            Ioane is keen to stay at the Chiefs.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128637116/josh-ioane-returns-from-painful-rib-injury-and-is-keen-to-extend-his-stay-at-the-chiefs

            This will largely depend on DMac's decision. Gatland still has 1 year left on his contract, while the contract duration of Trask and Reihana is unknown. I don't think you would carry four players who cover 1st 5 (3 of those also fullback) in your squad.

            They should cut Trask lose.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Ioane is keen to stay at the Chiefs.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128637116/josh-ioane-returns-from-painful-rib-injury-and-is-keen-to-extend-his-stay-at-the-chiefs

              This will largely depend on DMac's decision. Gatland still has 1 year left on his contract, while the contract duration of Trask and Reihana is unknown. I don't think you would carry four players who cover 1st 5 (3 of those also fullback) in your squad.

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              @Bovidae re-sign Ioane, while his return was shaky, imo he's better than Gatland. DMac to 15 when he returns. I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Ioane is keen to stay at the Chiefs.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128637116/josh-ioane-returns-from-painful-rib-injury-and-is-keen-to-extend-his-stay-at-the-chiefs

                This will largely depend on DMac's decision. Gatland still has 1 year left on his contract, while the contract duration of Trask and Reihana is unknown. I don't think you would carry four players who cover 1st 5 (3 of those also fullback) in your squad.

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                @Bovidae didnt Reihana only re-sign last year and given he hasnt had alot of chances nor kicked on, it would likely have only been for a year.

                I thought when Trask signed on, whenever it was, was a long term one, like 5 years?

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Bovidae didnt Reihana only re-sign last year and given he hasnt had alot of chances nor kicked on, it would likely have only been for a year.

                  I thought when Trask signed on, whenever it was, was a long term one, like 5 years?

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                  @taniwharugby As I said, I haven't seen any official media release on the length of Trask's and Reihana's contracts. Trask first made the Chiefs in 2020, so if he did sign a 5-yr contract he still has 2 years remaining. Reihana has been contracted from 2021 so he might have been on a 1-yr deal, which was extended, or a 2-yr contract.

                  Trask is a 1st 5 playing fullback, and lacks the top-end speed to be really effective at fullback. We saw that yesterday when Gordon caught him from behind.

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                    @taniwharugby As I said, I haven't seen any official media release on the length of Trask's and Reihana's contracts. Trask first made the Chiefs in 2020, so if he did sign a 5-yr contract he still has 2 years remaining. Reihana has been contracted from 2021 so he might have been on a 1-yr deal, which was extended, or a 2-yr contract.

                    Trask is a 1st 5 playing fullback, and lacks the top-end speed to be really effective at fullback. We saw that yesterday when Gordon caught him from behind.

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                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                    @taniwharugby As I said, I haven't seen any official media release on the length of Trask's and Reihana's contracts. Trask first made the Chiefs in 2020, so if he did sign a 5-yr contract he still has 2 years remaining.

                    Or 3 years remaining if it was a 6yr contract.. that was the rumoured contract length

                    Surely there would be out clauses etc

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                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                      @Bovidae re-sign Ioane, while his return was shaky, imo he's better than Gatland. DMac to 15 when he returns. I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance.

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                      @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

                      I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

                      as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

                      this is a really funny thing to read.

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                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                        @taniwharugby As I said, I haven't seen any official media release on the length of Trask's and Reihana's contracts. Trask first made the Chiefs in 2020, so if he did sign a 5-yr contract he still has 2 years remaining.

                        Or 3 years remaining if it was a 6yr contract.. that was the rumoured contract length

                        Surely there would be out clauses etc

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                        @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                        Surely there would be out clauses etc

                        Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                        Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                          Surely there would be out clauses etc

                          Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                          Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

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                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                          Surely there would be out clauses etc

                          Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                          Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                          I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                          Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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                            @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                            @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                            Surely there would be out clauses etc

                            Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                            Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                            I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                            Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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                            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                            Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                            You know my answer to that.

                            I'm not sure there is a fullback coming through the Chiefs system who offers something different to the players already in the squad. Let's see who the U20 fullback is for the tournament coming up. We better get in early and sign Payton Spencer.

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                              @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

                              I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

                              as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

                              this is a really funny thing to read.

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                              @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2022:

                              @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

                              I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

                              as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

                              this is a really funny thing to read.

                              I've been enjoying reading some of the comments this year about Clayton and "favourites" like Tiatia and Trask.

                              After the first 15 years of watching just about every possible Waikato back - however fleet or leaden footed - being selected in the Chiefs squad under Gary Dawson, Ian Foster, and co... 🙂

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                                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  Surely there would be out clauses etc

                                  Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                                  Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                                  I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                                  Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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                                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  Surely there would be out clauses etc

                                  Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                                  Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                                  I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                                  Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                                  2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                    @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                                    Surely there would be out clauses etc

                                    Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                                    Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                                    I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                                    Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                                    2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                                    @kiwi_expat Nankivell and Narawa on the wing and Lowe at fullback?

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                                      @kiwi_expat Nankivell and Narawa on the wing and Lowe at fullback?

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                                      @Yeetyaah Narawa 15, Lowe 14.

                                      Nankivell has to be at 11 or 12, he's such an influential player on attack, but also his work off the ball.

                                      A linchpin on defense and a real creator & great physicality he brings to a backline that lacks size.

                                      Tupaea best at 12 than 11.. so Nankivell at 11 it is. Seturo is defensively frail & on the small side.

                                      The Chiefs beat the Crusaders with Nankivell at 11, Tupaea at 12, who were both instrumental.

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                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        Surely there would be out clauses etc

                                        Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                                        Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                                        I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                                        Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                                        2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                                        @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        Surely there would be out clauses etc

                                        Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                                        Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                                        I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                                        Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                                        2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                                        That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                                        We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

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                                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          Surely there would be out clauses etc

                                          Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                                          Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                                          I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                                          Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                                          2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                                          @kiwi_expat that would leave Ioane with 3 options.. Moana and be coached by Mauger😅take JGB spot at the canes or head overseas

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