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Chiefs 2022

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  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

    @Bovidae re-sign Ioane, while his return was shaky, imo he's better than Gatland. DMac to 15 when he returns. I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance.

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    @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

    I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

    as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

    this is a really funny thing to read.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

      @taniwharugby As I said, I haven't seen any official media release on the length of Trask's and Reihana's contracts. Trask first made the Chiefs in 2020, so if he did sign a 5-yr contract he still has 2 years remaining.

      Or 3 years remaining if it was a 6yr contract.. that was the rumoured contract length

      Surely there would be out clauses etc

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      @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

      Surely there would be out clauses etc

      Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

      Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

        Surely there would be out clauses etc

        Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

        Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

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        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

        @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

        Surely there would be out clauses etc

        Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

        Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

        I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

        Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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        • gt12G gt12

          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

          @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

          Surely there would be out clauses etc

          Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

          Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

          I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

          Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

          Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

          You know my answer to that.

          I'm not sure there is a fullback coming through the Chiefs system who offers something different to the players already in the squad. Let's see who the U20 fullback is for the tournament coming up. We better get in early and sign Payton Spencer.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

            I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

            as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

            this is a really funny thing to read.

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            @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2022:

            @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

            I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

            as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

            this is a really funny thing to read.

            I've been enjoying reading some of the comments this year about Clayton and "favourites" like Tiatia and Trask.

            After the first 15 years of watching just about every possible Waikato back - however fleet or leaden footed - being selected in the Chiefs squad under Gary Dawson, Ian Foster, and co... 🙂

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              • gt12G gt12

                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                Surely there would be out clauses etc

                Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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                @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                Surely there would be out clauses etc

                Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                  Surely there would be out clauses etc

                  Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                  Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                  I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                  Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                  2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                  @kiwi_expat Nankivell and Narawa on the wing and Lowe at fullback?

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                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                    @kiwi_expat Nankivell and Narawa on the wing and Lowe at fullback?

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                    @Yeetyaah Narawa 15, Lowe 14.

                    Nankivell has to be at 11 or 12, he's such an influential player on attack, but also his work off the ball.

                    A linchpin on defense and a real creator & great physicality he brings to a backline that lacks size.

                    Tupaea best at 12 than 11.. so Nankivell at 11 it is. Seturo is defensively frail & on the small side.

                    The Chiefs beat the Crusaders with Nankivell at 11, Tupaea at 12, who were both instrumental.

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                    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                      Surely there would be out clauses etc

                      Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                      Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                      I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                      Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                      2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                      @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                      Surely there would be out clauses etc

                      Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                      Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                      I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                      Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                      2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                      That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                      We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

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                      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                        @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                        Surely there would be out clauses etc

                        Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                        Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                        I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                        Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                        2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                        @kiwi_expat that would leave Ioane with 3 options.. Moana and be coached by Mauger😅take JGB spot at the canes or head overseas

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                          Surely there would be out clauses etc

                          Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                          Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                          I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                          Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                          2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                          That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                          We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

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                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                          @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                          Surely there would be out clauses etc

                          Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                          Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                          I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                          Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                          2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                          That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                          We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

                          Don't be greedy now, you already have 1/2 or more of a current (& future potential) All Black's pack and midfield. The Highlanders require a Rayasi or JRK more than you do, they have a good pack and some key backs in TUJ, Fakatava, Gilbert, Smith. just need Rayasi on one wing to pair with Nareki, and entice PUJ southward to pair with his brother in the midfield.

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                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

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                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                              I wonder what the talent drain on other nations will be as players move to the US in time to qualify. I imagine that the salaries could be very good

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                                I wonder what the talent drain on other nations will be as players move to the US in time to qualify. I imagine that the salaries could be very good

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                                @Crucial if Gats Sr was to go he could take Bryn with him, then in 5 years donning the Eagles 10 jersey would be Bryn out of Huntly.. now residing in Houston!

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                                • GrooterG Grooter

                                  @Crucial if Gats Sr was to go he could take Bryn with him, then in 5 years donning the Eagles 10 jersey would be Bryn out of Huntly.. now residing in Houston!

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                                  @FakatavaFuture said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  @Crucial if Gats Sr was to go he could take Bryn with him, then in 5 years donning the Eagles 10 jersey would be Bryn out of Huntly.. now residing in Houston!

                                  Yeah. Not having a crack at him but Gats' time in NZ will have had him identify quite a few upcomers and experienced players that won't probably make the ABs but could very well add a lot to, not only an Eagles squad, but the internal US competition to get better quality games happening.
                                  I fear more for the Pasifika teams. Just as they have a pathway to strengthen their national sides they could potentially lose layers to a lucrative US market.
                                  The US RWC is a long way off in playing terms but there will need to be a build up period and I can see a number of 'fringe' NZ (and Chiefs) players plying their trade in the states through the mid 2020s

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                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-chiefs-hit-by-second-covid-19-wave/IKXEUPFVKASGA7H743BT3UH6F4/

                                    McMillan told NZME that around eight or nine players are currently infected with Covid-19.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-chiefs-hit-by-second-covid-19-wave/IKXEUPFVKASGA7H743BT3UH6F4/

                                      McMillan told NZME that around eight or nine players are currently infected with Covid-19.

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                                      @Tim said in Chiefs 2022:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-chiefs-hit-by-second-covid-19-wave/IKXEUPFVKASGA7H743BT3UH6F4/

                                      McMillan told NZME that around eight or nine players are currently infected with Covid-19.

                                      Geez when will this end.

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                                        Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

                                          The article mentions that they are players not previously affected.
                                          In the round against MP that was covid hit, among the non-covid players that took the field were

                                          Norris
                                          BBBR
                                          Slater
                                          Vaa'i
                                          PGS
                                          Weber
                                          Gatland
                                          Poihipi
                                          Nanks
                                          Lowe
                                          Narawa
                                          Trask
                                          Finau
                                          Ioane
                                          QT

                                          Could be a very makeshift side

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