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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

    Surely there would be out clauses etc

    Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

    Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

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    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

    @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

    Surely there would be out clauses etc

    Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

    Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

    I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

    Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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    • gt12G gt12

      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

      @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

      Surely there would be out clauses etc

      Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

      Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

      I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

      Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

      Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

      You know my answer to that.

      I'm not sure there is a fullback coming through the Chiefs system who offers something different to the players already in the squad. Let's see who the U20 fullback is for the tournament coming up. We better get in early and sign Payton Spencer.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

        I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

        as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

        this is a really funny thing to read.

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        @mariner4life said in Chiefs 2022:

        @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2022:

        I'd say cut Trask but he's from BOP so fat chance

        as someone who has supported this dumpster fire since day 1

        this is a really funny thing to read.

        I've been enjoying reading some of the comments this year about Clayton and "favourites" like Tiatia and Trask.

        After the first 15 years of watching just about every possible Waikato back - however fleet or leaden footed - being selected in the Chiefs squad under Gary Dawson, Ian Foster, and co... 🙂

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          • gt12G gt12

            @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

            @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

            Surely there would be out clauses etc

            Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

            Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

            I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

            Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

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            @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

            @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

            @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

            Surely there would be out clauses etc

            Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

            Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

            I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

            Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

            2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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            • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

              @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

              @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

              @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

              Surely there would be out clauses etc

              Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

              Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

              I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

              Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

              2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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              @kiwi_expat Nankivell and Narawa on the wing and Lowe at fullback?

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              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                @kiwi_expat Nankivell and Narawa on the wing and Lowe at fullback?

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                @Yeetyaah Narawa 15, Lowe 14.

                Nankivell has to be at 11 or 12, he's such an influential player on attack, but also his work off the ball.

                A linchpin on defense and a real creator & great physicality he brings to a backline that lacks size.

                Tupaea best at 12 than 11.. so Nankivell at 11 it is. Seturo is defensively frail & on the small side.

                The Chiefs beat the Crusaders with Nankivell at 11, Tupaea at 12, who were both instrumental.

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                • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                  Surely there would be out clauses etc

                  Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                  Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                  I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                  Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                  2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                  @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                  @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                  Surely there would be out clauses etc

                  Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                  Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                  I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                  Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                  2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                  That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                  We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

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                  • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                    @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                    Surely there would be out clauses etc

                    Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                    Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                    I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                    Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                    2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

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                    @kiwi_expat that would leave Ioane with 3 options.. Moana and be coached by Mauger😅take JGB spot at the canes or head overseas

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                      Surely there would be out clauses etc

                      Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                      Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                      I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                      Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                      2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                      That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                      We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

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                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @kiwi_expat said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                      @Duluth said in Chiefs 2022:

                      Surely there would be out clauses etc

                      Sure, we saw that when Laulala and Mafileo swapped places, and the same for Alaimalo in 2021, and Ioane this season.

                      Trask is only 23 so I doubt the Chiefs would do that after investing in him. Gatland's contract likely won't be renewed after next season when he'll be 28. A move to the NH would suit him.

                      I think the biggest questions are whether Dmac (1) comes back, and (2) wants to play 10.

                      Assuming that yes is the answer to both of those questions (it's his best chance of playing in an AB jersey, IMO), then we need to be developing/signing our next fullback. I don't see anyone there now good enough or trusted enough..

                      2023 (best 9-15): Weber, DMac, Nankivell, Tupaea, ALB, Narawa, Lowe. 21 Ratima, 22 Reihana, 23 Wrampling.

                      That looks like a good team to fight it out with the Canes and Landers as the 3rd to 5th best in NZ.

                      We need much more on the wing and at fullback to challenge the top teams. Lowe can stay, recruit Rayasi, and give ENS his chance at FB (or cut him lose) and try to steal JRK from the Blues.

                      Don't be greedy now, you already have 1/2 or more of a current (& future potential) All Black's pack and midfield. The Highlanders require a Rayasi or JRK more than you do, they have a good pack and some key backs in TUJ, Fakatava, Gilbert, Smith. just need Rayasi on one wing to pair with Nareki, and entice PUJ southward to pair with his brother in the midfield.

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                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                          I wonder what the talent drain on other nations will be as players move to the US in time to qualify. I imagine that the salaries could be very good

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Chiefs 2022:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/lions-boss-warren-gatland-linked-to-monstrous-test-role/

                            I wonder what the talent drain on other nations will be as players move to the US in time to qualify. I imagine that the salaries could be very good

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                            @Crucial if Gats Sr was to go he could take Bryn with him, then in 5 years donning the Eagles 10 jersey would be Bryn out of Huntly.. now residing in Houston!

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                            • GrooterG Grooter

                              @Crucial if Gats Sr was to go he could take Bryn with him, then in 5 years donning the Eagles 10 jersey would be Bryn out of Huntly.. now residing in Houston!

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                              @FakatavaFuture said in Chiefs 2022:

                              @Crucial if Gats Sr was to go he could take Bryn with him, then in 5 years donning the Eagles 10 jersey would be Bryn out of Huntly.. now residing in Houston!

                              Yeah. Not having a crack at him but Gats' time in NZ will have had him identify quite a few upcomers and experienced players that won't probably make the ABs but could very well add a lot to, not only an Eagles squad, but the internal US competition to get better quality games happening.
                              I fear more for the Pasifika teams. Just as they have a pathway to strengthen their national sides they could potentially lose layers to a lucrative US market.
                              The US RWC is a long way off in playing terms but there will need to be a build up period and I can see a number of 'fringe' NZ (and Chiefs) players plying their trade in the states through the mid 2020s

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                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-chiefs-hit-by-second-covid-19-wave/IKXEUPFVKASGA7H743BT3UH6F4/

                                McMillan told NZME that around eight or nine players are currently infected with Covid-19.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-chiefs-hit-by-second-covid-19-wave/IKXEUPFVKASGA7H743BT3UH6F4/

                                  McMillan told NZME that around eight or nine players are currently infected with Covid-19.

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                                  @Tim said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-chiefs-hit-by-second-covid-19-wave/IKXEUPFVKASGA7H743BT3UH6F4/

                                  McMillan told NZME that around eight or nine players are currently infected with Covid-19.

                                  Geez when will this end.

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                                    Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                      Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

                                      The article mentions that they are players not previously affected.
                                      In the round against MP that was covid hit, among the non-covid players that took the field were

                                      Norris
                                      BBBR
                                      Slater
                                      Vaa'i
                                      PGS
                                      Weber
                                      Gatland
                                      Poihipi
                                      Nanks
                                      Lowe
                                      Narawa
                                      Trask
                                      Finau
                                      Ioane
                                      QT

                                      Could be a very makeshift side

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        Without knowing which players (and positions) it could be a big problem or something that can be managed. Hopefully none of the players that didn't travel to Melbourne are in that group.

                                        The article mentions that they are players not previously affected.
                                        In the round against MP that was covid hit, among the non-covid players that took the field were

                                        Norris
                                        BBBR
                                        Slater
                                        Vaa'i
                                        PGS
                                        Weber
                                        Gatland
                                        Poihipi
                                        Nanks
                                        Lowe
                                        Narawa
                                        Trask
                                        Finau
                                        Ioane
                                        QT

                                        Could be a very makeshift side

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                                        @Crucial Norris got covid when in Melbourne for the Super Round so missed the Waratahs and Reds games.

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128660529/be-yourself-the-simple-philosophy-behind-vivacious-chiefs-lock-naitoa-ah-kuoi

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