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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11652078'>Declaring war on bad science: Q&A with Dr Ben Goldacre</a></p>
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<p>Very interesting interview. Some great quotes.</p>
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<p>And then you see a story like an MMR vaccine hoax making it on to the front page.</p>
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<div>Anybody who really understands science, who can go and look at the evidence, can generally see that the evidence behind these stories is on a par with somebody claiming that the problem with the cricket umpire at the night before was that they let the batsman score too many tries, with an oval-shaped ball, in the second set.</div>
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<div>It's just gibberish.</div>
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<p>This next quote describes half the Fern I think ;)</p>
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<p>Everybody knows, from having arguments in the pub, or over dinner, that there are people who just don't care what the facts are.</p>
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<div>They will put their hands over their ears and they are people who just have a different relationship to the truth than you or I do.</div>
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<div>And that's just part of life, I guess.</div>
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<div>We have to accept that there are people who actually don't care about facts.</div>
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<div>They would make the rest of our lives a little bit easier, or less frustrating, if they could at least acknowledge that fact openly, and obviously none of them ever do.</div>
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<p>The poor dears are sick with worry about their student loans . As a taxpayer I say have a teaspoon of cement HTFU and call Ird if it worries you that much .<br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/education/80701703/Borrowers-worried-about-student-loans-following-second-arrest'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/education/80701703/Borrowers-worried-about-student-loans-following-second-arrest</a></p>
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<p>I love how the media is making the IRD out to be the bad guy here, like they're a bunch of robber barons preying on poor innocents. FFS you borrowed the money why did you ever think you wouldn't have to pay it back?</p> -
<p>I can't believe the Stanford rapist got off so light. Oh to be white sporty and (formerly) a student of a top university. If it had been some black gangbanger they'd have thrown away the key</p>
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<p>I can't believe the Stanford rapist got off so light. Oh to be white sporty and (formerly) a student of a top university. If it had been some black gangbanger they'd have thrown away the key</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865</a></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theonion.com/video/college-basketball-star-heroically-overcomes-tragi-19097'>http://www.theonion.com/video/college-basketball-star-heroically-overcomes-tragi-19097</a></p> -
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<p>I can't believe the Stanford rapist got off so light. Oh to be white sporty and (formerly) a student of a top university. If it had been some black gangbanger they'd have thrown away the key</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865</a></p>
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<p>The whole thing is revolting. He got caught in the act of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman behind a dumpster by two witnesses who tackled him and held him until police arrived, all the medical evidence said rape, the jury found him guilty of three felonies, and he gets six months jail because anything longer would 'impact' him too greatly according to the judge who oh! coincidentally went to Stanford and was an athlete and has been lenient to a crime committing athlete before. As for the letter his father wrote (talking about his poor son's life being ruined for 20 mins of action - he won't even steal the father's pretzels anymore!) that will make you vomit.</p> -
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I love how the media is making the IRD out to be the bad guy here, like they're a bunch of robber barons preying on poor innocents. FFS you borrowed the money why did you ever think you wouldn't have to pay it back?</p></blockquote>
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I'm not sure why they take the cretin/ feral side time after time , just like the feral with 8 kids and three houses that tested positive for p. How detached from today's reality do you have to be to think your readers have sympathy for people who are nothing but a drain on their hard earned? -
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I can't believe the Stanford rapist got off so light. Oh to be white sporty and (formerly) a student of a top university. If it had been some black gangbanger they'd have thrown away the key<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865</a></p></blockquote>
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Just like the kid in the affluenza case it's pretty obvious how the kid turned into such s massive selfish arsehole- the shit hasn't fallen far from the dog. -
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<p>I can't believe the Stanford rapist got off so light. Oh to be white sporty and (formerly) a student of a top university. If it had been some black gangbanger they'd have thrown away the key</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651865</a></p>
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<p>nah, probably woulda been shot 'evading' police!</p> -
<p>Max Kardashian, ffs. </p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="585692" data-time="1465386002"><p>Max Kardashian, ffs. <br>
<br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11652412">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11652412</a></p></blockquote>A picture is worth a thousand words. Good on him but Max is a douche -
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<p>Ugh. I am so bloody sick of hearing about the socialite sons and daughters of of high profile Aucklanders. Key, Millie, that little bitch Pebbles, Jaime Ridge (a bit quieter now thank god), as being 'celebrities'.</p>
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<p>I don't think Jaime Ridge is as revolting as her Mum who despite on one level being an attractive blond is about as sexy as Helen Clarke. Something about her is truly repulsive.</p> -
<p>holy shit!</p>
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<p>I don't think Jaime Ridge is as revolting as her Mum who despite on one level being an attractive blond is about as sexy as Helen Clarke. Something about her is truly repulsive.</p>
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<p>Agreed. I might be giving her too much credit but she doesn't seem to seek the limelight, rather gets pulled along by her shamelessly attention-seeking mum</p> -
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I don't understand the point of this story. What does the writer hope to achieve?<br><br>
ooh, I know. Ban the pies! In fact ban everything that could hurt anyone. Just don't ask the Mum if she touched the pie to see if it was maybe too hot for a six year old to be trusted with. Or whether the concept of hot pies was new to her and she had no way of knowing that they would in fact be hot. And definitely don't ask her what sort of compensation for her own fucking stupidity she expected Pak n Save to offer. A couple of grand? A book on healthy eating options for six year olds? A voucher for a parenting course? Her own cop to follow her round reminding her to always blow on the pie? FFS. -
<p>"Internal investigation".....fucken hell, give me strength.............</p>
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<p>The family should be pleased it wasn't frozen in the middle, no better way to ruin a day than to ho into a servo pie and experience that by which stage you've usually driven to far to be fucked going back to complain. Driving an auto definitely makes eating pies easier when on the road, vacuuming the pastry up afterwards is arduous though.</p>
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<p>Like most on here I'm a Dad and I'd be pretty concerned if my boys got burns on their bare pins.....but if that did happen my first inclination would be to ask myself if I'd actually checked, not bitch to the media and try and deflect any and all blame from myself.</p>
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<p>Kids do dumb shit and get hurt. Fact. Shall we try to ban concrete on footpaths next ?</p>
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<p>Is it churlish of me to point out that the last thing that family needs is pies and perhaps carrots and apples are better suggestions ?</p> -
<p>those 3am pies are always hot, wake up the following morning with a burnt mouth cos you are drunk and too impatient to wait for it to cool down!</p>
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<p>Maybe petrol stations need to have a warning sign up, although being drunk you probably wouldn't read it, maybe they need a verbatim warning read for every pie sold to an intoxicated person?</p>
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<p>I don't think Jaime Ridge is as revolting as her Mum who despite on one level being an attractive blond is about as sexy as Helen Clarke. Something about her is truly repulsive.</p>
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<p>True. Sally Ridge has done nothing but trade on her ex husband's name. (And her ex-partner's name for that matter.)</p> -
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<p>True. Sally Ridge has done nothing but trade on her ex husband's name. (And her ex-partner's name for that matter.)</p>
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<p>You look at some hot women and think "She'd hot but I bet she's a bitch"......she somehow transcends that to me......</p>
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<p>The fact she copulated with two of the biggest dickheads in NZ sporting history doesn't help her case either.</p> -
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<p>holy shit!</p>
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<p>Oh boy. I especially loathe the compensation you offered for parental stupidity wasn't good enough mindset. Would have thought that a $50 grocery voucher was pretty bloody generous.</p>
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<p>Imagine, a hot pie being hot.</p>
