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  • G Gunner

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    First test for Ireland:

    Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

    I think this it what they’ll pick, but I’d prefer Clarke in 11.
    In reality any of the 3 wingers could be picked and I don’t think there would be too many grizzles around the place.

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    @Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    First test for Ireland:

    Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

    I think this it what they’ll pick, but I’d prefer Clarke in 11.
    In reality any of the 3 wingers could be picked and I don’t think there would be too many grizzles around the place.

    I'd be happy enough with Clarke at 11 and Mo'unga at 10, but I'm otherwise feeling pretty solid in my picks for the 1st test.

    It is going to be a long season if we drop that one.

    Let's see who can knock it out of the park in the Super play-offs and change my mind.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
      I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

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      @Crucial I think posters have been too optimistic about how many newbies will make the squad as the squad will be smaller than last year's, and it's always harder to get into the squad than to be dropped. But if he gets into the squad, I assume Leicester Fainga'anuku will be in contention for the left wing spot.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
        I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

        I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
        I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

        Ennor could be fourth wing.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

          I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
          I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

          Ennor could be fourth wing.

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

          I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
          I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

          Ennor could be fourth wing.

          Hell no.

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            He's a good defender, big, dependable under the high ball and is reasonably quick. Could do much worse.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              First test for Ireland:

              Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

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              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

              First test for Ireland:

              Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

              That's what I think it will be as well if Foster is happy that Goodhue is match-fit. If, not then QT.

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              • G Gunner

                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                First test for Ireland:

                Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

                I think this it what they’ll pick, but I’d prefer Clarke in 11.
                In reality any of the 3 wingers could be picked and I don’t think there would be too many grizzles around the place.

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                @Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                First test for Ireland:

                Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

                I think this it what they’ll pick, but I’d prefer Clarke in 11.
                In reality any of the 3 wingers could be picked and I don’t think there would be too many grizzles around the place.

                We seem to be blessed with wingers ATM. Someone like Mark Telea wouldn't be out of place in any Test squad.

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Havili and DMac battling for a utility spot.

                  That's not a fair fight.

                  Good observations, though. 12 is full of folk with strengths and weaknesses at the moment. Finals could be interesting for RTS; play well in the knockouts and he could have a crack.

                  QT has played well. Would not be surprised to see him starting there -- and only 23. Midfield would be 23 and 25 with RI. RI is ridiculously young for a bloke with his pedigree.

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                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                  RI is ridiculously young for a bloke with his pedigree.

                  He is also becoming a really mature player for his age as well.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                    Ennor could be fourth wing.

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                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                    I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                    Ennor could be fourth wing.

                    Isn't Bridge more experienced? :fishing_pole:

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                      I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                      Ennor could be fourth wing.

                      Isn't Bridge more experienced? :fishing_pole:

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                      I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                      Ennor could be fourth wing.

                      Isn't Bridge more experienced? :fishing_pole:

                      Well suited to Classic All Blacks.

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                      • P pakman

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                        I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                        Ennor could be fourth wing.

                        Isn't Bridge more experienced? :fishing_pole:

                        Well suited to Classic All Blacks.

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                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                        I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                        Ennor could be fourth wing.

                        Isn't Bridge more experienced? :fishing_pole:

                        Well suited to Classic All Blacks.

                        hee haw

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          I’m a bit slow to pick up the news that CC did his hammy last night so I guess Reece will start.
                          I really don’t know who our 4th winger is although Goodhue on the bench could allow RI to cover wing.

                          Ennor could be fourth wing.

                          Isn't Bridge more experienced? :fishing_pole:

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                          @Victor-Meldrew George Bridge not really suited to much at all.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            He's a good defender, big, dependable under the high ball and is reasonably quick. Could do much worse.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                            He's a good defender, big, dependable under the high ball and is reasonably quick. Could do much worse.

                            Isn’t Ennor too small according to fern logic ? 90 odd kg vs 100 when he marked Ioane ?

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                            • number9N number9

                              @Victor-Meldrew George Bridge not really suited to much at all.

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                              @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Victor-Meldrew George Bridge not really suited to much at all.

                              Not true. He’d be a fantastic water boy. That job suits someone with a no frills straight running style

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                                I'd also add that the EOYT tours are no longer an opportunity for us to "blood new players" given the way we got smacked last time we were up there. The home tests, which we are far more likely to win, are the perfect opportunity, and the coaches would be idiots not to bring players like RTS who is already a proven world class athlete into the squad.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Gunner said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  First test for Ireland:

                                  Smith, Beauden, Reece, Goodhue, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

                                  I think this it what they’ll pick, but I’d prefer Clarke in 11.
                                  In reality any of the 3 wingers could be picked and I don’t think there would be too many grizzles around the place.

                                  I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                  Smith, Beauden, Clarke, QT, Ioane, Jordan Jordie.

                                  Weber (although that will change as the season progresses), RM, Reece.

                                  Incumbents are Havili and QT. Havili has gone backwards and was a stopgap. QT has developed further, is in very good form and was the identified development 12.

                                  If Goodhue plays well in the finals I expect he will get a chance in one of the games.

                                  For RWC planning one of QT/RTS/Goodhue/Ioane/ALB will miss out come selection (injuries etc withstanding)

                                  Havili and DMac battling for a utility spot.

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                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                  If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                    If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                    If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

                                    And, looking to next year ALB off the bench.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                      If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                      If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

                                      And your back three reserve is......?
                                      Are we going back to BB at fullback 60 minutes in?

                                      All moot anyway if rumours that Clarke is out for a while.

                                      FFS we may end up with Bridge again.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                        If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        I think that Reece makes a better impact player than Clarke. He is busier and just what is needed to spot opportunities against tiring opposition

                                        If we have JB at 2nd 5 and Jordan at fullback you can have Reece and Clarke on the wings.

                                        I'm not super enthused by that back three. Jordie brings a level of safety under the high ball and defence that I don't think you quite get with Jordan. Jordie, Jordan + [Clarke/Reece/Faainganuku etc] looks a lot more assured as a trio.

                                        I've been super impressed with RTS, he's clearly a leader and someone who thrives with responsibility, which is a really important attribute for me at test level. So he's ahead of Tupaea IMO. Tough on Quinn but he'll be in the mix.

                                        I don't have a problem with throwing RTS into it straight away. He's going to be surrounded by experience, familiar faces and it's not like he is lacking big match temperament. I'm unsure about his boot but luckily we have a fullback who can occasionally and seamlessly slot into 12.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          I'd also add that the EOYT tours are no longer an opportunity for us to "blood new players" given the way we got smacked last time we were up there. The home tests, which we are far more likely to win, are the perfect opportunity, and the coaches would be idiots not to bring players like RTS who is already a proven world class athlete into the squad.

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                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          and the coaches would be idiots not to bring players like RTS who is already a proven world class athlete into the squad.

                                          Genuine question here: How many games of top class Union has he played?

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