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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Finally confirmed:

    https://twitter.com/Highlanders/status/1526774582014877701

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    @Stargazer really disappointed that the All Blacks did not invest more time in this guy , as a scrummaging hooker , hes probably the best in the country , he actually gets a lot of turnover ball and carries very well ..always has question marks over his throwing in , but i believe if he had been given a bit more time in the saddle that side of his game could have been developed ..
    Is a decent size no 2 as well …Asafo Amua gives me the creeps at international level simply because he cant scrum and his lineout throwing is average at best , sure hes dynamic around the field but at international level i prefer players who can get their core roles down pad first

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      @Stargazer really disappointed that the All Blacks did not invest more time in this guy , as a scrummaging hooker , hes probably the best in the country , he actually gets a lot of turnover ball and carries very well ..always has question marks over his throwing in , but i believe if he had been given a bit more time in the saddle that side of his game could have been developed ..
      Is a decent size no 2 as well …Asafo Amua gives me the creeps at international level simply because he cant scrum and his lineout throwing is average at best , sure hes dynamic around the field but at international level i prefer players who can get their core roles down pad first

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      @Steven-Harris I agree with your concerns about Aumua, but - other than winning turnovers - I don't really rate Coltman much. He's had plenty of years to improve his line-out throwing, but just didn't improve enough for an AB recall. There's a good reason why he was leapfrogged by Ash Dixon at the Landers, the last few years.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Steven-Harris I agree with your concerns about Aumua, but - other than winning turnovers - I don't really rate Coltman much. He's had plenty of years to improve his line-out throwing, but just didn't improve enough for an AB recall. There's a good reason why he was leapfrogged by Ash Dixon at the Landers, the last few years.

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        Steven Harris
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        @Stargazer thats a fair enough comment , Coltman was given his an opportunity ..Ash Dixon very unlucky not to have worn an ABs jersey

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          Coltman had a beard. other than that he really didn't offer that much to the ABs and has had an entire professional career not being able to do one of the key jobs of his position.

          Hooker seems to be a position where some players get lucky with regards to AB caps, and others are unlucky in comparison.

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            ALL HAIL TO THE MIGHTY BEARD!!

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              #1528

              Fijian Drua and BOP winger Onisi Ratave joins Benetton for the next 2 seasons

              https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/uxd8b3/fijian_winger_onisi_ratave_joins_benetton_for_the/

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                Daffy Jaffy
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                Taina Fox-Matamua extends with Zebre for another 2 seasons

                Zebre Rugby Club is pleased to announce that it has reached an agreement for the renewal of the Taina-Fox Matamua contract. The third line from New Zealand, who took the field in six official matches with the XV of the North West since his arrival in Parma last January, will continue to wear the Parma franchise shirt until 30 June 2024.

                The statements of Taina Fox-Matamua , on his first renewal with Zebre Rugby: “My wife and I are grateful for the opportunity to stay in Parma for the next two years. We both fell in love with this environment and the Italian culture. From a sporting point of view, showing myself in a prestigious competition like the United Rugby Championship was my personal goal. I can't wait to start next season with the many new teammates arriving at the club. We closed the second half of the year with good performances, we are a growing group and eager to get involved to reach ambitious goals on and off the pitch ”.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  Coltman had a beard. other than that he really didn't offer that much to the ABs and has had an entire professional career not being able to do one of the key jobs of his position.

                  Hooker seems to be a position where some players get lucky with regards to AB caps, and others are unlucky in comparison.

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                  Bones
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                  @Nepia said in Exodus:

                  Hooker seems to be a position where some players get lucky with regards to AB caps, and others are unlucky in comparison.

                  It also weirdly seems to be a position where so many NZ players struggle with the lineout aspect, especially compared to their peers around the world. Quite puzzling to think why....too many converted loosies?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Nepia said in Exodus:

                    Hooker seems to be a position where some players get lucky with regards to AB caps, and others are unlucky in comparison.

                    It also weirdly seems to be a position where so many NZ players struggle with the lineout aspect, especially compared to their peers around the world. Quite puzzling to think why....too many converted loosies?

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                    taniwharugby
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                    @Bones but surely throwing isnt exactly a natural skill, you'd think a bit of work ethic and you'd nail it.

                    When TR Jnr played hooker we'd spend time just doing throws and he got bloody good at it, then he gave up rugby!

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Bones but surely throwing isnt exactly a natural skill, you'd think a bit of work ethic and you'd nail it.

                      When TR Jnr played hooker we'd spend time just doing throws and he got bloody good at it, then he gave up rugby!

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                      #1532

                      @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                      @Bones but surely throwing isnt exactly a natural skill, you'd think a bit of work ethic and you'd nail it.

                      When TR Jnr played hooker we'd spend time just doing throws and he got bloody good at it, then he gave up rugby!

                      And switched to

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                        @Bones but surely throwing isnt exactly a natural skill, you'd think a bit of work ethic and you'd nail it.

                        When TR Jnr played hooker we'd spend time just doing throws and he got bloody good at it, then he gave up rugby!

                        And switched to

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                        taniwharugby
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                        @Winger the gym, playstation 🙄

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Winger the gym, playstation 🙄

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                          Crucial
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                          @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                          @Winger the gym, playstation 🙄

                          Parents these days 🙄 🙄

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                            #1535

                            Goosen to Edinburgh -
                            https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/1529779457870942208/photo/1

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              Goosen to Edinburgh -
                              https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/1529779457870942208/photo/1

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                              mikey07
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                              @Daffy-Jaffy Stole my thunder was surprised he didn’t go to Japan, the Canes and Wellington are really going to miss him he offered so much more then Slowvea ane putting my eye patch on wouldn’t have looked out of place in a black jersey.

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                              • M Mackerzzzz

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                                ALL HAIL TO THE MIGHTY BEARD!!

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                                nzzp
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                                @Mackerzzzz said in Exodus:

                                ALL HAIL TO THE MIGHTY BEARD!!

                                forget the beard, the classic 80s mo is where it's at

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @Mackerzzzz said in Exodus:

                                  ALL HAIL TO THE MIGHTY BEARD!!

                                  forget the beard, the classic 80s mo is where it's at

                                  2f70d08b-4ff1-415a-bc0c-9721e9536773-image.png

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                                  Mackerzzzz
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                                  @nzzp said in Exodus:

                                  @Mackerzzzz said in Exodus:

                                  ALL HAIL TO THE MIGHTY BEARD!!

                                  forget the beard, the classic 80s mo is where it's at

                                  2f70d08b-4ff1-415a-bc0c-9721e9536773-image.png

                                  The raiging mo

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                                    Tim
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                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-richie-mounga-reveals-plans-to-leave-all-blacks-and-new-zealand-rugby-after-world-cup/BVYHT77RMBXLCP4ZBUBNLXQXRU/

                                    Richie Mo'unga has revealed plans to leave a major hole in New Zealand rugby by spending two years in Japan post-World Cup.

                                    All Blacks and Crusaders playmaker Mo'unga last week signed a one-year extension with NZ Rugby through to next year's World Cup in France – a move that left his options open from the end of 2023.

                                    As he prepares to return from a two-week absence due to a fractured finger for the Crusaders quarter-final against the Reds in Christchurch on Friday night, Mo'unga has detailed his intent to take a probable two-year break from New Zealand rugby.

                                    The 28-year-old two-time Super Rugby player of the year has major motivations to achieve before leaving Christchurch but come the end of 2023, his future is firmly heading towards an extended stint in the Japanese Top League.

                                    "That's definitely what I'm thinking," Mo'unga told the Herald. "Another reason for the one-year sign on with NZ Rugby was allowing myself to have a look at opportunities overseas and seeing what somewhere like Japan has to offer and keeping my options open, whether that's one or two seasons over there, and possibly coming back to New Zealand and hopefully play for the Crusaders and All Blacks.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-richie-mounga-reveals-plans-to-leave-all-blacks-and-new-zealand-rugby-after-world-cup/BVYHT77RMBXLCP4ZBUBNLXQXRU/

                                      Richie Mo'unga has revealed plans to leave a major hole in New Zealand rugby by spending two years in Japan post-World Cup.

                                      All Blacks and Crusaders playmaker Mo'unga last week signed a one-year extension with NZ Rugby through to next year's World Cup in France – a move that left his options open from the end of 2023.

                                      As he prepares to return from a two-week absence due to a fractured finger for the Crusaders quarter-final against the Reds in Christchurch on Friday night, Mo'unga has detailed his intent to take a probable two-year break from New Zealand rugby.

                                      The 28-year-old two-time Super Rugby player of the year has major motivations to achieve before leaving Christchurch but come the end of 2023, his future is firmly heading towards an extended stint in the Japanese Top League.

                                      "That's definitely what I'm thinking," Mo'unga told the Herald. "Another reason for the one-year sign on with NZ Rugby was allowing myself to have a look at opportunities overseas and seeing what somewhere like Japan has to offer and keeping my options open, whether that's one or two seasons over there, and possibly coming back to New Zealand and hopefully play for the Crusaders and All Blacks.

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      @Tim lol

                                      so he means he's retiring from International Rugby at the end of next year.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-richie-mounga-reveals-plans-to-leave-all-blacks-and-new-zealand-rugby-after-world-cup/BVYHT77RMBXLCP4ZBUBNLXQXRU/

                                        Richie Mo'unga has revealed plans to leave a major hole in New Zealand rugby by spending two years in Japan post-World Cup.

                                        All Blacks and Crusaders playmaker Mo'unga last week signed a one-year extension with NZ Rugby through to next year's World Cup in France – a move that left his options open from the end of 2023.

                                        As he prepares to return from a two-week absence due to a fractured finger for the Crusaders quarter-final against the Reds in Christchurch on Friday night, Mo'unga has detailed his intent to take a probable two-year break from New Zealand rugby.

                                        The 28-year-old two-time Super Rugby player of the year has major motivations to achieve before leaving Christchurch but come the end of 2023, his future is firmly heading towards an extended stint in the Japanese Top League.

                                        "That's definitely what I'm thinking," Mo'unga told the Herald. "Another reason for the one-year sign on with NZ Rugby was allowing myself to have a look at opportunities overseas and seeing what somewhere like Japan has to offer and keeping my options open, whether that's one or two seasons over there, and possibly coming back to New Zealand and hopefully play for the Crusaders and All Blacks.

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                                        @Tim

                                        If Dmac comes back and plays well at 10, he might be a better short-long term option in the 22 jersey.

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                                          More reason to look at someone like Perofeta in this year's squad - the two AB 10s consist of a guy who is maybe one more head knock from retirement and another who is off overseas after the World Cup.

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