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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

      Any one got cheats notes off interesting points? Foster puts me to sleep, slow drawl

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        Anyone know what this article was all about? I don't have a Herald subscription.
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nzme-writers-roundtable-the-all-blacks-who-should-be-cut-for-ireland/XTNOI6T4H6UBBVTFRCFI4ZRQVM/

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          Anyone know what this article was all about? I don't have a Herald subscription.
          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nzme-writers-roundtable-the-all-blacks-who-should-be-cut-for-ireland/XTNOI6T4H6UBBVTFRCFI4ZRQVM/

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          @number9

          These were their teams at the end:

          Who makes your All Blacks 23 for the first test?

          Liam Napier: Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Dalton Papalii, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Ethan de Groot.

          Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Fletcher Newell, Tupou Vaa'i, Ethan Blackadder, Folau Fakatava, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

          Elliott Smith: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Akira Ioane, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Alex Hodgman.

          Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, George Bower, Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

          Christopher Reive: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Dalton Papalii, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.

          Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, Ollie Norris, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Quinn Tupaea.

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          • number9N number9

            Anyone know what this article was all about? I don't have a Herald subscription.
            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nzme-writers-roundtable-the-all-blacks-who-should-be-cut-for-ireland/XTNOI6T4H6UBBVTFRCFI4ZRQVM/

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            @number9 Just a few sports writers giving their personal opinion of who are most likely to be bolters or to drop out of the 36-man squad. Most discussion is about halfback. Then they give their favourite 23.

            It's basically the same thing Ferners are doing in this thread. Over and over again.

            Main take-away from this article: Perenara's spot is most at risk, but who will be the two halfbacks joining Aaron Smith, they don't agree about.

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            • number9N number9

              Anyone know what this article was all about? I don't have a Herald subscription.
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/nzme-writers-roundtable-the-all-blacks-who-should-be-cut-for-ireland/XTNOI6T4H6UBBVTFRCFI4ZRQVM/

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              @number9 nothing more than is said around here, opinions on new picks (eg fakatava, RTS) and who gets dropped (eg Bridge, TJ) then a first Ireland test 23 in their opinion. Not who they think will be picked, but who they would pick.

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                To me the biggest takeout (one the just about everybody -sports writer or not) agrees on is that we should see the back of Havili, Bridge, TJP, possibly Laulala (can't judge Frizzell as he's injured but I suspect him as well)

                So the team will be pretty damn close to the one we all want and performance will come down to tactics/ strategy

                Our players are what they are

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Any one got cheats notes off interesting points? Foster puts me to sleep, slow drawl

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Any one got cheats notes off interesting points? Foster puts me to sleep, slow drawl

                  The last few years were about "building depth", this year is about building combinations.

                  He wasn't particularly excited about Jordie playing at 12. He thought he was one of our best last year with his work under the highball etc. However, perhaps he is an option there.

                  He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                  Something like he wants to see RTS improving as a link for the rest of the backline, and wants to see more of his kicking game, but likes what he sees as a ball carrier.

                  Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

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                  • B bobily2

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Any one got cheats notes off interesting points? Foster puts me to sleep, slow drawl

                    The last few years were about "building depth", this year is about building combinations.

                    He wasn't particularly excited about Jordie playing at 12. He thought he was one of our best last year with his work under the highball etc. However, perhaps he is an option there.

                    He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                    Something like he wants to see RTS improving as a link for the rest of the backline, and wants to see more of his kicking game, but likes what he sees as a ball carrier.

                    Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

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                    @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                    Huh? Why the fuck hasn't he been starting him on the wing instead of, say, Bridge then.

                    Eek, does that mean he rates him as a wing below all our current wings.

                    @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

                    All of the loose forwards he's selected are versatile. Probably the least versatile, in terms of playing time, is Cane and he'd probably make a decent 6. Maybe Sotutu as well who may be seen exclusively as an 8?

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                      Huh? Why the fuck hasn't he been starting him on the wing instead of, say, Bridge then.

                      Eek, does that mean he rates him as a wing below all our current wings.

                      @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

                      All of the loose forwards he's selected are versatile. Probably the least versatile, in terms of playing time, is Cane and he'd probably make a decent 6. Maybe Sotutu as well who may be seen exclusively as an 8?

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                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                      Huh? Why the fuck hasn't he been starting him on the wing instead of, say, Bridge then.

                      Eek, does that mean he rates him as a wing below all our current wings.

                      @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

                      All of the loose forwards he's selected are versatile. Probably the least versatile, in terms of playing time, is Cane and he'd probably make a decent 6. Maybe Sotutu as well who may be seen exclusively as an 8?

                      I'd say it was a combination of ALBs injuries and the focus being to 'build depth' throughout the last few years. That, and not rating the other options aside from ALB

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                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                        Huh? Why the fuck hasn't he been starting him on the wing instead of, say, Bridge then.

                        Eek, does that mean he rates him as a wing below all our current wings.

                        @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

                        All of the loose forwards he's selected are versatile. Probably the least versatile, in terms of playing time, is Cane and he'd probably make a decent 6. Maybe Sotutu as well who may be seen exclusively as an 8?

                        I'd say it was a combination of ALBs injuries and the focus being to 'build depth' throughout the last few years. That, and not rating the other options aside from ALB

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                        @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                        Huh? Why the fuck hasn't he been starting him on the wing instead of, say, Bridge then.

                        Eek, does that mean he rates him as a wing below all our current wings.

                        @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

                        All of the loose forwards he's selected are versatile. Probably the least versatile, in terms of playing time, is Cane and he'd probably make a decent 6. Maybe Sotutu as well who may be seen exclusively as an 8?

                        I'd say it was a combination of ALBs injuries and the focus being to 'build depth' throughout the last few years. That, and not rating the other options aside from ALB

                        Might mean they want Goodhue at 13. I’d spit based on form, but with this coaching/selection panel I wouldn’t be surprised.

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                            @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                            Huh? Why the fuck hasn't he been starting him on the wing instead of, say, Bridge then.

                            Eek, does that mean he rates him as a wing below all our current wings.

                            @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

                            All of the loose forwards he's selected are versatile. Probably the least versatile, in terms of playing time, is Cane and he'd probably make a decent 6. Maybe Sotutu as well who may be seen exclusively as an 8?

                            I'd say it was a combination of ALBs injuries and the focus being to 'build depth' throughout the last few years. That, and not rating the other options aside from ALB

                            Might mean they want Goodhue at 13. I’d spit based on form, but with this coaching/selection panel I wouldn’t be surprised.

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                            @gt12 only positive about that is it would push fern Fave Bridge further away from 11...

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Any one got cheats notes off interesting points? Foster puts me to sleep, slow drawl

                              The last few years were about "building depth", this year is about building combinations.

                              He wasn't particularly excited about Jordie playing at 12. He thought he was one of our best last year with his work under the highball etc. However, perhaps he is an option there.

                              He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                              Something like he wants to see RTS improving as a link for the rest of the backline, and wants to see more of his kicking game, but likes what he sees as a ball carrier.

                              Versatility might become increasingly important in the loose forwards.

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                              @bobily2 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              He wasn't particularly excited about Jordie playing at 12. He thought he was one of our best last year with his work under the highball etc. However, perhaps he is an option there.
                              He views Rieko as a wing playing centre, but has been very impressed by his growth in the last year.

                              That is a shithouse take by a casual fan who's only watched a couple of clips on the news from 2-3 years ago right? Not the ABs coach watching these guys crush it in their positions this year?

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                                @number9

                                These were their teams at the end:

                                Who makes your All Blacks 23 for the first test?

                                Liam Napier: Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Dalton Papalii, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Ethan de Groot.

                                Reserves: Codie Taylor, Aidan Ross, Fletcher Newell, Tupou Vaa'i, Ethan Blackadder, Folau Fakatava, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

                                Elliott Smith: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Akira Ioane, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Alex Hodgman.

                                Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, George Bower, Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

                                Christopher Reive: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Dalton Papalii, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot.

                                Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, Ollie Norris, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Quinn Tupaea.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Elliott Smith: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Akira Ioane, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Alex Hodgman

                                Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, George Bower, Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

                                Don’t mind that side, except for the starting loosehead

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Elliott Smith: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Akira Ioane, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Alex Hodgman

                                  Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, George Bower, Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

                                  Don’t mind that side, except for the starting loosehead

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                                  @ACT-Crusader nothing wrong with the starting LH, my issue is with the starting Hooker I would go with Taukeiaho.

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                                    If Retallick can't hit his straps, Romano is showing everything the ABs have been lacking.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      If Retallick can't hit his straps, Romano is showing everything the ABs have been lacking.

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                                      @Bones Luke Romano has that 2011 Brad thorn mana about him!

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                                      • GrooterG Grooter

                                        @Bones Luke Romano has that 2011 Brad thorn mana about him!

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                                        @FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones Luke Romano has that 2011 Brad thorn mana about him!

                                        Certainly not shirking his duties either, fitness doesn't appear to be an issue at all. Playing his best rugby imo

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Elliott Smith: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Akira Ioane, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Alex Hodgman

                                          Reserves: Samisoni Taukeiaho, George Bower, Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Richie Mo'unga, Jack Goodhue.

                                          Don’t mind that side, except for the starting loosehead

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