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    Machpants
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    It's finished now, right? Cos fuck me this thread had gone on forever!

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    • M Machpants

      It's finished now, right? Cos fuck me this thread had gone on forever!

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      @machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

      It's finished now, right? Cos fuck me this thread had gone on forever!

      Yip, finished, includes a velodrome track around the rugby field by the sounds of it. Like old school Okara Park and Rugby Park.

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        @machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        It's finished now, right? Cos fuck me this thread had gone on forever!

        Yip, finished, includes a velodrome track around the rugby field by the sounds of it. Like old school Okara Park and Rugby Park.

        a5d3f664-af9f-4b6d-a782-246c12366a14-image.png

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        antipodean
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        @rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        It's finished now, right? Cos fuck me this thread had gone on forever!

        Yip, finished, includes a velodrome track around the rugby field by the sounds of it. Like old school Okara Park and Rugby Park.

        a5d3f664-af9f-4b6d-a782-246c12366a14-image.png

        11a43036-8b6a-46e4-bd62-fc4714340b53-image.png

        Good. The one thing I've never liked about rugby grounds is being able to see the players.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          @machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          It's finished now, right? Cos fuck me this thread had gone on forever!

          Yip, finished, includes a velodrome track around the rugby field by the sounds of it. Like old school Okara Park and Rugby Park.

          a5d3f664-af9f-4b6d-a782-246c12366a14-image.png

          11a43036-8b6a-46e4-bd62-fc4714340b53-image.png

          Good. The one thing I've never liked about rugby grounds is being able to see the players.

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @antipodean i think you were being sarcastic...but you can be TOO close

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            good lord.
            https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128822249/cost-blowout-of-up-to-150m-for-planned-christchurch-stadium

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              good lord.
              https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128822249/cost-blowout-of-up-to-150m-for-planned-christchurch-stadium

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              @nzzp i was honestly going to come here and wind up Shark by suggesting, with the input costs of construction through the roof, for their budget Christchurch is getting a grass embankment and a couple of pop-ups from Bunnings.

              Old school cool

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                good lord.
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128822249/cost-blowout-of-up-to-150m-for-planned-christchurch-stadium

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                @nzzp said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                good lord.
                https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128822249/cost-blowout-of-up-to-150m-for-planned-christchurch-stadium

                That's stunning incompetence from the council. The stadium should've been built by now.

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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  its time to cut their cloth....work out what they can build for their budget...what they can get their contractor to commit too, maybe its the same thing without a roof....maybe it has to go back to having to build individual stands over time

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                    Old Samurai Jack
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                    Cutting out the velodrome track would be a good start. You could hardly see the players at the Olympic Stadium here in Tokyo. Complete waste of time going to watch rugby there. Make it hockey/soccer/rugby, etc multi-purpose and cut out the other shit that pushes the spectator away.

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                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                      Cutting out the velodrome track would be a good start. You could hardly see the players at the Olympic Stadium here in Tokyo. Complete waste of time going to watch rugby there. Make it hockey/soccer/rugby, etc multi-purpose and cut out the other shit that pushes the spectator away.

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      #724

                      @Old-Samurai-Jack is doesn;t have a velodrome track does it?...its just a rectangular pitch

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                        this is not getting built. The Council don't want it, and now they have the perfect out, and they'll let the public make the decision for them.

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          the final option, if we feel there is enough people in canterbury to justify this design...then let them pay for it, my football team in the uk raised bonds in our new stadium, i dropped a couple of grand on one...user pays

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Old-Samurai-Jack is doesn;t have a velodrome track does it?...its just a rectangular pitch

                            alt text

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                            @Old-Samurai-Jack is doesn;t have a velodrome track does it?...its just a rectangular pitch

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                            It there is a cycle track round the outside of the playing field there will be some spectacular crashes on the rather tight corners not to mention not much room to pass another rider on the narrow track. Now I come to think of it full contact bike racing might prove to be a real drawcard and get the crowds streaming in through the turnstyles..

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              the final option, if we feel there is enough people in canterbury to justify this design...then let them pay for it, my football team in the uk raised bonds in our new stadium, i dropped a couple of grand on one...user pays

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              the final option, if we feel there is enough people in canterbury to justify this design...then let them pay for it, my football team in the uk raised bonds in our new stadium, i dropped a couple of grand on one...user pays

                              10-12 years ago you could get a 30,000 seat covered rectangular stadium for $225M.

                              Now it's $683M for a ... 30,000 seat covered stadium? That's not just inflation.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forsyth_Barr_Stadium

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                                Duluth
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                                Just build some stands around a rugby field. Forget about a roof and indoor concerts etc

                                The locals are used to the conditions in winter. Plus the elements are part of the home ground advantage for when a team like the Reds visit

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                                  and as for the bonds, it's only $1,000 per person, assuming everyone participates from Canterbury region. mind you, that stretches from near Ward to the Waitaki.

                                  Stadium economics don't stack up. Just a reminder, if you want to return 6% on the spend (to allow for upkeep, capital costs, etc), you need to generate $40M profit a year. Which is selling out a 30,000 seat stadium 27 times a year for a $50 profit over operating costs. And that's just to return 6%.

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    Just build some stands around a rugby field. Forget about a roof and indoor concerts etc

                                    The locals are used to the conditions in winter. Plus the elements are part of the home ground advantage for when a team like the Reds visit

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                                    @Duluth said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    Just build some stands around a rugby field. Forget about a roof and indoor concerts etc

                                    The locals are used to the conditions in winter. Plus the elements are part of the home ground advantage for when a team like the Reds visit

                                    couple of BBQs
                                    Chilly Bin full of Cantab Draft

                                    fucking sorted.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      Just build some stands around a rugby field. Forget about a roof and indoor concerts etc

                                      The locals are used to the conditions in winter. Plus the elements are part of the home ground advantage for when a team like the Reds visit

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                                      @Duluth Hard to imagine that the South Island can sustain two international match suitable stadiums. There are only two in the North Island. Need to be realistic and go for a mid-sized regional centre rugby venue.

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        the final option, if we feel there is enough people in canterbury to justify this design...then let them pay for it, my football team in the uk raised bonds in our new stadium, i dropped a couple of grand on one...user pays

                                        10-12 years ago you could get a 30,000 seat covered rectangular stadium for $225M.

                                        Now it's $683M for a ... 30,000 seat covered stadium? That's not just inflation.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forsyth_Barr_Stadium

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                                        Kiwiwomble
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                                        @nzzp in fairness, i think FoBar cost more than the official sums, there was lots of talk about deferred payments and the like...and then the public forgot about it

                                        i mean, there is normal inflation....then there is the price of building materials in chch due to the earthquake rebuild and then COVID...and just look at that design, it is much more substantial than FoBar, depending on if you consider the zoo permanent its only 18000 permanent seats. The zoo might always be up but its still scaffold that would be a lot more expensive to replicate along the lines of the two other stands

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Duluth said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          Just build some stands around a rugby field. Forget about a roof and indoor concerts etc

                                          The locals are used to the conditions in winter. Plus the elements are part of the home ground advantage for when a team like the Reds visit

                                          couple of BBQs
                                          Chilly Bin full of Cantab Draft

                                          fucking sorted.

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                                          @mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          Chilly Bin full of Cantab Draft

                                          Hasn't production of CD stopped since the EQ? Locals care to inform -- google wasn't totally conclusive

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