NRL 2022
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
The Warriors are deadset fucking cooked. Pea hearted, dumb, and pretty much talentless. Not a player on the squad worth turning up to watch.
Brown is fucked and needs to go. His biggest crime? (besides being a proven failure who is delivering exactly what we all expected) is picking SJ every week despite all the evidence that he just does not want to be there.
But the problems are so much deeper than the coach and the players. The organisation is fucked. The owner comes across as just a fucking piston wristed gibbon of epic proportions (anyone who refers to themselves as an alpha male is a deadshit). The football department is stuck in groundhog day with its decision making.
If the club decides to make a change, they will do what they have always done:
Pick a failed coach who is on the merry-go-round
Sign a bunch of offcasts from other failed clubs, or guys looking for 1 last contract. All of these players will be old, and lacking in any creative spark
Expect to build something off this.The joint is absolutely cooked, lacking in any sort of plan, or positive identity. It's proves how little Australia gives a fuck about the Warriors that they are not under the torch pretty much full time. We play turgid football even when we are "on" and it takes fuck all to throw the team "off" and when that happens they fall in a heap.
The lack of public accountability around this fucking organisation is yet another damning stain on the NZ sports media that just straight up refuses to be critical of anyone.
Nice rant but I think there are a few players on that squad that people will turn up to watch, some are injured or out of form but there are some for sure that you would watch whether they be a Tohu, Curran, AFB, even Walsh on form.
..however I do agree with most of the rest of it. Payten was one of the few in his short time who managed to get the team to defend when they got behind and stay in the fight. Most of the coaches haven't. Which is why I rated him highly in his short time, even if they didn't have many wins. He has since shown that if you stick with him he can really change a team although most continued to say he was terrible until it was time to get on the band wagon.
The owner showed last week that it is terrible at the top and his attitude and lack of understanding of financial implications of what he did, was just as brainless. I also hope you heard wrong about Toovey as that would again be the wrong way to go. There are no too many coaches worth going after, but the warriors need someone who can also change the culture and attitude. I could only think of about two sets worth going after who are not coaching first grade.
I think getting to NZ finally will help a lot of players, however how many mentally may have tapped out before then is the question.
They need a massive reset though for sure.
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
The Warriors are deadset fucking cooked. Pea hearted, dumb, and pretty much talentless. Not a player on the squad worth turning up to watch.
Brown is fucked and needs to go. His biggest crime? (besides being a proven failure who is delivering exactly what we all expected) is picking SJ every week despite all the evidence that he just does not want to be there.
But the problems are so much deeper than the coach and the players. The organisation is fucked. The owner comes across as just a fucking piston wristed gibbon of epic proportions (anyone who refers to themselves as an alpha male is a deadshit). The football department is stuck in groundhog day with its decision making.
If the club decides to make a change, they will do what they have always done:
Pick a failed coach who is on the merry-go-round
Sign a bunch of offcasts from other failed clubs, or guys looking for 1 last contract. All of these players will be old, and lacking in any creative spark
Expect to build something off this.The joint is absolutely cooked, lacking in any sort of plan, or positive identity. It's proves how little Australia gives a fuck about the Warriors that they are not under the torch pretty much full time. We play turgid football even when we are "on" and it takes fuck all to throw the team "off" and when that happens they fall in a heap.
The lack of public accountability around this fucking organisation is yet another damning stain on the NZ sports media that just straight up refuses to be critical of anyone.
Nice rant but I think there are a few players on that squad that people will turn up to watch, some are injured or out of form but there are some for sure that you would watch whether they be a Tohu, Curran, AFB, even Walsh on form.
..however I do agree with most of the rest of it. Payten was one of the few in his short time who managed to get the team to defend when they got behind and stay in the fight. Most of the coaches haven't. Which is why I rated him highly in his short time, even if they didn't have many wins. He has since shown that if you stick with him he can really change a team although most continued to say he was terrible until it was time to get on the band wagon.
The owner showed last week that it is terrible at the top and his attitude and lack of understanding of financial implications of what he did, was just as brainless. I also hope you heard wrong about Toovey as that would again be the wrong way to go. There are no too many coaches worth going after, but the warriors need someone who can also change the culture and attitude. I could only think of about two sets worth going after who are not coaching first grade.
I think getting to NZ finally will help a lot of players, however how many mentally may have tapped out before then is the question.
They need a massive reset though for sure.
So you’re saying this isn’t their year after all then ?
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@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
The Warriors are deadset fucking cooked. Pea hearted, dumb, and pretty much talentless. Not a player on the squad worth turning up to watch.
Brown is fucked and needs to go. His biggest crime? (besides being a proven failure who is delivering exactly what we all expected) is picking SJ every week despite all the evidence that he just does not want to be there.
But the problems are so much deeper than the coach and the players. The organisation is fucked. The owner comes across as just a fucking piston wristed gibbon of epic proportions (anyone who refers to themselves as an alpha male is a deadshit). The football department is stuck in groundhog day with its decision making.
If the club decides to make a change, they will do what they have always done:
Pick a failed coach who is on the merry-go-round
Sign a bunch of offcasts from other failed clubs, or guys looking for 1 last contract. All of these players will be old, and lacking in any creative spark
Expect to build something off this.The joint is absolutely cooked, lacking in any sort of plan, or positive identity. It's proves how little Australia gives a fuck about the Warriors that they are not under the torch pretty much full time. We play turgid football even when we are "on" and it takes fuck all to throw the team "off" and when that happens they fall in a heap.
The lack of public accountability around this fucking organisation is yet another damning stain on the NZ sports media that just straight up refuses to be critical of anyone.
Nice rant but I think there are a few players on that squad that people will turn up to watch, some are injured or out of form but there are some for sure that you would watch whether they be a Tohu, Curran, AFB, even Walsh on form.
..however I do agree with most of the rest of it. Payten was one of the few in his short time who managed to get the team to defend when they got behind and stay in the fight. Most of the coaches haven't. Which is why I rated him highly in his short time, even if they didn't have many wins. He has since shown that if you stick with him he can really change a team although most continued to say he was terrible until it was time to get on the band wagon.
The owner showed last week that it is terrible at the top and his attitude and lack of understanding of financial implications of what he did, was just as brainless. I also hope you heard wrong about Toovey as that would again be the wrong way to go. There are no too many coaches worth going after, but the warriors need someone who can also change the culture and attitude. I could only think of about two sets worth going after who are not coaching first grade.
I think getting to NZ finally will help a lot of players, however how many mentally may have tapped out before then is the question.
They need a massive reset though for sure.
So you’re saying this isn’t their year after all then ?
@MN5 I am never one to say it is their year I dont think I have even been ,confident with them even in 2002, but it clearly isn't
lolThere have been some sensational lows over the years which obviously outnumber the highs, but as mariner said there are worrying signs at owner and coach level that if no attempt to change (injuries aside) suggest this could get much worse.
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As I don't watch much non Warriors (TBF or Warriors) league these days, is Tupou really the best wing NSW has got? Dude has made a decent career out of sort-of-looking-like Folau.
As I don't watch much non Warriors (TBF or Warriors) league these days, is Tupou really the best wing NSW has got? Dude has made a decent career out of sort-of-looking-like Folau.
Yes, especially given who he is marking
Almost impossible to score over him with a kick. Also one of the best wings in the comp at getting you out of your end. Teams kick to him even though you won't win the ball simply so he doesn't get the first hit up.
And he's a dangerous scoring threat of his own. Not a winger to break a game open but he's really fucking good
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Tupou still has it. Mr Reliable on both sides of the ball and as mentioned, plays like an extra forward when getting out of your own half. Geez the Warriors would break the bank for a guy like him…
It will be interesting who makes the NSW 17 with a few surprises on there.
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You watch how well Ponga goes when he's not forced to do absolutely everything for the 12 other shit players on his side
@mariner4life Always makes me laugh when I hear people go on about how over rated he is. The guy is doing everything for the Knights with bugger all help. All their tries come through him, it's not his fault he's playing with crap players.
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@mariner4life Always makes me laugh when I hear people go on about how over rated he is. The guy is doing everything for the Knights with bugger all help. All their tries come through him, it's not his fault he's playing with crap players.
@African-Monkey A very expensive Reece Walsh
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@Dice I don't mind the starting 13 although I thought maybe Graham or Lomax ahead of Wighton at centre and bench looks unbalanced. No Nicho floating either on that bench is a miss.
I dont mind the Qld team though, although they would be hoping Ponga finds some form, rest of it looks strong
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@bayimports I think they might switch Crichton and Wighton around come gameday. They'll need a bit of aerial help on To'o's side.
@bayimports I think they might switch Crichton and Wighton around come gameday. They'll need a bit of aerial help on To'o's side.
surely.
and then surely the rissole the wildly overrated Wighton altogether for Hynes
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@bayimports I think they might switch Crichton and Wighton around come gameday. They'll need a bit of aerial help on To'o's side.
surely.
and then surely the rissole the wildly overrated Wighton altogether for Hynes
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
@bayimports I think they might switch Crichton and Wighton around come gameday. They'll need a bit of aerial help on To'o's side.
surely.
and then surely the rissole the wildly overrated Wighton altogether for Hynes
it is strange, I am hoping he does get it right because if the rumours are true he then coaches the doggies..., which is one sh$t coach less for us to chase
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I see Ray Warren has finally officially retired. Voice of League for me. Up there with other legendary commentators I reckon.
Wonder if he will call Origin one final time?
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I see Ray Warren has finally officially retired. Voice of League for me. Up there with other legendary commentators I reckon.
Wonder if he will call Origin one final time?
@Crazy-Horse said in NRL 2022:
I see Ray Warren has finally officially retired. Voice of League for me. Up there with other legendary commentators I reckon.
Wonder if he will call Origin one final time?
think I read he said last years would be his last, I do wonder if he makes a guest appearance during the series to say goodbye though
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@Crazy-Horse said in NRL 2022:
I see Ray Warren has finally officially retired. Voice of League for me. Up there with other legendary commentators I reckon.
Wonder if he will call Origin one final time?
think I read he said last years would be his last, I do wonder if he makes a guest appearance during the series to say goodbye though
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in NRL 2022:
I see Ray Warren has finally officially retired. Voice of League for me. Up there with other legendary commentators I reckon.
Wonder if he will call Origin one final time?
think I read he said last years would be his last, I do wonder if he makes a guest appearance during the series to say goodbye though
Yeah that would be good. He deserves something like a guest appearance.
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how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
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how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
Always going to happen - they're on the GC, which is where sporting teams die.
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how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
Drinky was sh*t last week but those top teams have a way of making good players look average, he has been killing it outside of that game.
When we had the Chad last year he was playing busted, but at least even last year he applied structure that we all thought SJ might do for us this year, but SJ has gone back into his shell, no commitment, no running, just trick kicks and very readable intercept passes. I think Chad is playing well, but Reynolds for mine has single handled turned the Broncs. He is still in front in my mind.
Jury still out on lolo for mine, still not up to speed, but old lolo came out to play last night..got to wonder how much of it was the lack of opposition..Im looking at you Titans/Warriors/Tigers
Payten going great though, great coach..the latest one that got away. For me he can change a culture which is why I still think not being able to keep him was such a shame.
Well done Cows!
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
Drinky was sh*t last week but those top teams have a way of making good players look average, he has been killing it outside of that game.
When we had the Chad last year he was playing busted, but at least even last year he applied structure that we all thought SJ might do for us this year, but SJ has gone back into his shell, no commitment, no running, just trick kicks and very readable intercept passes. I think Chad is playing well, but Reynolds for mine has single handled turned the Broncs. He is still in front in my mind.
Jury still out on lolo for mine, still not up to speed, but old lolo came out to play last night..got to wonder how much of it was the lack of opposition..Im looking at you Titans/Warriors/Tigers
Payten going great though, great coach..the latest one that got away. For me he can change a culture which is why I still think not being able to keep him was such a shame.
Well done Cows!
@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
Drinky was sh*t last week but those top teams have a way of making good players look average, he has been killing it outside of that game.
When we had the Chad last year he was playing busted, but at least even last year he applied structure that we all thought SJ might do for us this year, but SJ has gone back into his shell, no commitment, no running, just trick kicks and very readable intercept passes. I think Chad is playing well, but Reynolds for mine has single handled turned the Broncs. He is still in front in my mind.
Jury still out on lolo for mine, still not up to speed, but old lolo came out to play last night..got to wonder how much of it was the lack of opposition..Im looking at you Titans/Warriors/Tigers
Payten going great though, great coach..the latest one that got away. For me he can change a culture which is why I still think not being able to keep him was such a shame.
Well done Cows!
don't you even try to rain on my bandwagon, it has a fucking roof bro
it's all happiness and smiles in Cowboys land
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@bayimports said in NRL 2022:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:
how fucking good is my transition to the Cowboys going? young team, bunch out for Origin, no fucking worries. Payton is a fucking legend. Makes awesome calls that benefit, doesn't give a shit about the chatter around him
Drinkwater on good money but playing shit? Drop him to the QCup. Lights a fire under him and now he's nearly the best bloke in the team.
Need more punch out of their very expensive forward. Fuck around with his minutes. Cop shit from everywhere. Lolo back to killing it.
Hell, he signed The Chad and everyone, including certain posters from FNQ thought it was the dumbest piece of recruitment since, well, what ever the Warriors last did. The Chad is battling his replacement and a certain halfback at the Broncos for buy of the year.The Cowboys are flying, and while i don't think they can win the comp, they are nailed on for top 4, which makes them the comps overachievers in relation to preseason expectations (certain bandwagon jumping posters from NQ had them bottom 3, with the Broncos. Nostra-fucking-damus over here).
Also, a quick word on the Titans. We think we have it hard at the Warriors. But we sort of knew we were shit. The Titans were supposed to make the 8 and they SUCK! Holbrook would be in the gun if anyone gave even a solitary fuck about the Titans. I still maintain this started when they fucked everything up to sign Hayne. It cost them a good coach, broke up a good young squad, and then he left anyway. Their club is as terminally fucked as ours
Drinky was sh*t last week but those top teams have a way of making good players look average, he has been killing it outside of that game.
When we had the Chad last year he was playing busted, but at least even last year he applied structure that we all thought SJ might do for us this year, but SJ has gone back into his shell, no commitment, no running, just trick kicks and very readable intercept passes. I think Chad is playing well, but Reynolds for mine has single handled turned the Broncs. He is still in front in my mind.
Jury still out on lolo for mine, still not up to speed, but old lolo came out to play last night..got to wonder how much of it was the lack of opposition..Im looking at you Titans/Warriors/Tigers
Payten going great though, great coach..the latest one that got away. For me he can change a culture which is why I still think not being able to keep him was such a shame.
Well done Cows!
don't you even try to rain on my bandwagon, it has a fucking roof bro
it's all happiness and smiles in Cowboys land
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@mariner4life love is love
what's not to love?
10/10 would absolutely bang
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Another of the owner's decisions gone wrong. Sharpen the knife for Brown
Another of the owner's decisions gone wrong. Sharpen the knife for Brown
I don't that headline is correct - the club is a clusterfuck is a pretty good excuse. He's not a magician.
