All Blacks 2022
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
So Blackadder looks to be ruled out of the squad now. Will be interesting to see where they go. Either Jacobsen becomes the everyman loosie or in a show of innovation Cane does.
Akira to start with Cane moving to 6 later and DP coming on?For all the talk about BBBR no longer being 'BB' are we just assuming that Whitelock can lift further? Nothing about him screamed 'pick me' last night.
Whitelock got a few key lineout steals, made tackles and hit rucks, pretty much what you want your lock to be doing. Agree he is not the presence in the loose he once was but if he is doing the core role well and leading by example then that is good for me given the current locking stocks. Savea / Cane / Akira with Sotutu and SB on the bench for me.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
Whitelock got a few key lineout steals, made tackles and hit rucks, pretty much what you want your lock to be doing. Agree he is not the presence in the loose he once was but if he is doing the core role well and leading by example then that is good for me given the current locking stocks
I do wonder if Foster has seen the writing on the wall with Whitelock & BBBR's ages. Wouldn't be surprised to see Tupou Vaii & Josh Lord getting more and more time this series partnering Sam or BBBR.
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@sparky At the rate we've been losing 7s over the past 24 hours, we'll be down to some bloke in Heartland rugby by the time the tests roll around.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@sparky At the rate we've been losing 7s over the past 24 hours, we'll be down to some bloke in Heartland rugby by the time the tests roll around.
How long is Blackadder out for?
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@sparky At the rate we've been losing 7s over the past 24 hours, we'll be down to some bloke in Heartland rugby by the time the tests roll around.
If Cane gets injured, play Savea at 7 and Sotutu at 8.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@sparky At the rate we've been losing 7s over the past 24 hours, we'll be down to some bloke in Heartland rugby by the time the tests roll around.
If Cane gets injured, play Savea at 7 and Sotutu at 8.
And Jacobson in the 23. But we'll probably end up with Frizzell....
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:
@sparky At the rate we've been losing 7s over the past 24 hours, we'll be down to some bloke in Heartland rugby by the time the tests roll around.
How long is Blackadder out for?
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@Victor-Meldrew Hasn't been published yet. He was going to have scans today, I think.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew Hasn't been published yet. He was going to have scans today, I think.
Thanks. At least we have some depth at 6/7/8 - even if a tad inexperienced at Test level
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew Hasn't been published yet. He was going to have scans today, I think.
Thanks. At least we have some depth at 6/7/8 - even if a tad inexperienced at Test level
@Victor-Meldrew IIRC, they said it depends on whether Blackadder will need surgery or not. If not, his absence may not be that long.
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Halves are easy imo.
9: smith, fakatava, Christie
10: Barrett, Mounga, perofeta -
I really hope they back the new generation of props. De groot newell etc.
Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12. I’d keep JB at 15 and have Jordan and Reece on the wings.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12
He looks a talent, but way too early to say if RTS is the goods or not. Need more than 8 or so games at top level before we can make that assessment IMHO.
Reiko and either JG or QT will be the likely 13/12 combination.
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12
He looks a talent, but way too early to say if RTS is the goods or not. Need more than 8 or so games at top level before we can make that assessment IMHO.
Reiko and either JG or QT will be the likely 13/12 combination.
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Halves are easy imo.
9: smith, fakatava, Christie
10: Barrett, Mounga, perofeta@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
Halves are easy imo.
9: smith, fakatava, Christie
10: Barrett, Mounga, perofetaWeber ahead of Christie but yeah to the rest.
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Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12
He looks a talent, but way too early to say if RTS is the goods or not. Need more than 8 or so games at top level before we can make that assessment IMHO.
Reiko and either JG or QT will be the likely 13/12 combination.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
Also: just stick RTS in, he looks the goods at 12
He looks a talent, but way too early to say if RTS is the goods or not. Need more than 8 or so games at top level before we can make that assessment IMHO.
Reiko and either JG or QT will be the likely 13/12 combination.
RTS is possibly a year too late to force his way in as a starter unless there are injuries that give him a foot in the door. He'll be a squaddie for sure but The coaches/selectors have said that they spent last year looking for depth and this year will be consolidation and combination.
I agree that he is playing well but he also gets the press attention because of his history.
I would have no issues with him in the ABs this year but can also see that QT was invested in last year, has stepped up a notch this year and is performing just as well.
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Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
@Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:
Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
He had keyhole surgery apparently so hopefully not too long.
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Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
@Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:
Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
Google says 2 to 3 weeks.
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Dermody confirmed the groin injury to All Black halfback Aaron Smith was a “two-to-three weeker”, but felt his replacement, and national squad contender, Folau Fakatava had done a fine job in his stead.
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@Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:
Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
Google says 2 to 3 weeks.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:
Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
Google says 2 to 3 weeks.
Might be a bit different into Pro rugby! But hopefully he's fit for Ireland, the fact he was at the game last night is a good sign
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@Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...
Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...
Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.
That's not my argument.
Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.
Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...
Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.
That's not my argument.
Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.
Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.
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@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
