All Blacks 2022
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.
Doubt it will be. Think there's a chance Goodhue might get the 12 slot though. Ritche (and poss, Havili) on the bench.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.
When SBW was given a go, we had Nonu and/or Conrad to fall back on - which was needed against Wales in '10
Not saying we don't give RTS a go this year, just don't think Foster is going to see throwing him in the deep end against Ireland as the smart option
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022, Goodhue speedwise looks better suited to 12 and Ennor should be nowhere near a black jersey
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
Yeah except all 3 Blues players are vastly superior
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Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
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@mariner4life only with Jordie at 12, which I am warming to with his increased gametime there. He was fucking outstanding against the Brumbies, when he went off for an HIA we just completely fell apart
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Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022, Goodhue speedwise looks better suited to 12 and Ennor should be nowhere near a black jersey
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022
He is was also underwhelming once the pressure came on in the ABs last year.
I don't see as him like an incumbent like Whitelock or Smith, and I think he should be dropped. -
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
Lol following that reasoning I guessing you want Hoskins moved to wing??
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
Lol following that reasoning I guessing you want Hoskins moved to wing??
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
Lol following that reasoning I guessing you want Hoskins moved to wing??
Don’t be ridiculous. Waisake Sotutu was never an All Black.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
Lol following that reasoning I guessing you want Hoskins moved to wing??
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
Lol following that reasoning I guessing you want Hoskins moved to wing??
Bridge or Sotutu, who ya going with?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.
When SBW was given a go, we had Nonu and/or Conrad to fall back on - which was needed against Wales in '10
Not saying we don't give RTS a go this year, just don't think Foster is going to see throwing him in the deep end against Ireland as the smart option
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
When SBW was given a go, we had Nonu and/or Conrad to fall back on - which was needed against Wales in '10
That's my point exactly. No twelve is busting down doors and RTS is easily in the top 3, with nothing really putting one above the other - apart from RTS showing a great trajectory and building on what's been a very sound all around game. Tupaea as the experienced option is ridiculous, especially with the inconsistency he's shown, not to mention dodgy defence and now a penchant for dickishness that would get punished at international level. Who looks like the wise old head out of RTS and Tupaea?
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank yeah, I like how you call the rugby championship the four nations
So, you'd be the man for this question - when will Fakatava be eligible for the ABs?
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@Frank he's eligible, question is will he be selected for the Irish series, there's 5 halfbacks in contention & most likely 3 spots
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank he's eligible, question is will he be selected for the Irish series, there's 5 halfbacks in contention & most likely 3 spots
He'll be in. Our halfbacks are average outside of Aaron Smith.
@Frank I think Christie has made huge strides this year, has been a massive part of the good in the Blues, I reckon the AB coaches will have noticed this too, he wont be discarded.
For my mind, the Irish will see Smith, Christie and Weber, TJ for the Maori.
While Fakatava may have the highest ceiling, we know the AB coaches arent quick to bin people, Smith is Smith, Christie aside from some headless stuff last night, has been very good this year, Weber looked good for the Chiefs...will Foster & Co drop one of them to make room for Fakatava? I have my doubts.
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@Frank I think Christie has made huge strides this year, has been a massive part of the good in the Blues, I reckon the AB coaches will have noticed this too, he wont be discarded.
For my mind, the Irish will see Smith, Christie and Weber, TJ for the Maori.
While Fakatava may have the highest ceiling, we know the AB coaches arent quick to bin people, Smith is Smith, Christie aside from some headless stuff last night, has been very good this year, Weber looked good for the Chiefs...will Foster & Co drop one of them to make room for Fakatava? I have my doubts.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frank I think Christie has made huge strides this year, has been a massive part of the good in the Blues this year, I reckon the AB coaches will have noticed this too, he wont be discarded.
For my mind, the Irish will see Smith, Christie and Weber, TJ for the Maori.
While Fakatava may have the highest ceiling, we know the AB coaches arent quick to bin people, Smith is Smith, Christie aside from some headless stuff last night, has been very good this year, Weber looked good for the Chiefs...will Foster & Co drop one of them to make room for Fakatava? I have my doubts.
They are fuckin mugs if they don't pick him.
He has clearly got a far higher ceiling than the others.
