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All Blacks 2022

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @mariner4life but can this translate to international level? I’m with you in a way but why do I keep coming back to Picamoles? Have to play with what we have. I like the Otago 8 and even PGS because of size and being I an AB environment would heighten their skills.

    Dunno about an Otago 8, but maybe you mean the Hawke's Bay 8, who plays for the Highlanders, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u?

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    @Stargazer Sound like a English’s teacher. What’s wrong with you???

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      @broughie You said Otago. I admit to being triggered by that.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @broughie You said Otago. I admit to being triggered by that.

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        • broughieB broughie

          @Stargazer Sound like a English’s teacher. What’s wrong with you???

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          @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Stargazer Sound like a English’s teacher. What’s wrong with you???

          do you mean geography teacher?

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Stargazer Sound like a English’s teacher. What’s wrong with you???

            do you mean geography teacher?

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            @Kiwiwomble either. It’s all Nick picky.

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              @Kiwiwomble either. It’s all Nick picky.

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              @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Kiwiwomble either. It’s all Nick picky.

              ....do you mean "nit-picking"

              im so sorry...that was a sitter

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022, Goodhue speedwise looks better suited to 12 and Ennor should be nowhere near a black jersey

                To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

                Jack's pace at 13 was exposed by the Reds. Alex Nankivell is probably no quicker - nor TUJ. Who else have we got? Billy Proctor?

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                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

                Hopefully Sullivan's injury isn't too serious as he would be the closest to a like-for-like replacement for Ioane. If Rieko got injured they would need to be confident in his replacement, and I don't think Ennor is that player.

                There is the opportunity to select a few fringe AB midfieIders in the Māori team to see how they go.

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Kiwiwomble either. It’s all Nick picky.

                  ....do you mean "nit-picking"

                  im so sorry...that was a sitter

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                  @Kiwiwomble Lol. Just like a Womble

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                    I really like Sullivan, hope he gets a run this year, seems to have a good rugby brain too.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                      The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko

                      Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?

                      The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022, Goodhue speedwise looks better suited to 12 and Ennor should be nowhere near a black jersey

                      To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

                      Jack's pace at 13 was exposed by the Reds. Alex Nankivell is probably no quicker - nor TUJ. Who else have we got? Billy Proctor?

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                      @Chris-B I agree that Ennor will make the squad although his season has been underwhelming. This is more due to Foster making pathetic choices rather than form.

                      In my opinion, Foster's fascination with the Crusaders needs to stop, Nankivell,Tupaea, RTS/Reiko besides Goodhue are the in form midfield backs. If the Crusaders have one glaring weakness it is their midfield.

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                      • number9N number9

                        @Chris-B I agree that Ennor will make the squad although his season has been underwhelming. This is more due to Foster making pathetic choices rather than form.

                        In my opinion, Foster's fascination with the Crusaders needs to stop, Nankivell,Tupaea, RTS/Reiko besides Goodhue are the in form midfield backs. If the Crusaders have one glaring weakness it is their midfield.

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                        @number9 do you think he's just trying to prove he's as good a coach as razor? "oh...you can get bridge to score tries?....by god so can i!"...."ennor plays on the regular for you?...he will for me too!"

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                          To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

                          Hopefully Sullivan's injury isn't too serious as he would be the closest to a like-for-like replacement for Ioane. If Rieko got injured they would need to be confident in his replacement, and I don't think Ennor is that player.

                          There is the opportunity to select a few fringe AB midfieIders in the Māori team to see how they go.

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                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                          To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

                          Hopefully Sullivan's injury isn't too serious as he would be the closest to a like-for-like replacement for Ioane. If Rieko got injured they would need to be confident in his replacement, and I don't think Ennor is that player.

                          That's the big question - who is Fozzie going to trust?

                          I'd guess the Fern consensus (what there is of it) would probably pick Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS, Rieko and Sullivan.

                          But, that is very thin on experience - if Rieko does his hammy in Test 1!!!

                          Even though Dave Havili hasn't been playing particularly well, I suspect he's at least in the frame, because he's been there, so Fozzie's got some trust.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                            To be honest, it won't surprise me if Ennor makes the squad. Personally, I'd pick Bailyn Sullivan over him, but we are very thin on specialist centres with ALB injured. Rieko and...???

                            Hopefully Sullivan's injury isn't too serious as he would be the closest to a like-for-like replacement for Ioane. If Rieko got injured they would need to be confident in his replacement, and I don't think Ennor is that player.

                            That's the big question - who is Fozzie going to trust?

                            I'd guess the Fern consensus (what there is of it) would probably pick Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS, Rieko and Sullivan.

                            But, that is very thin on experience - if Rieko does his hammy in Test 1!!!

                            Even though Dave Havili hasn't been playing particularly well, I suspect he's at least in the frame, because he's been there, so Fozzie's got some trust.

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                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Even though Dave Havili hasn't been playing particularly well, I suspect he's at least in the frame, because he's been there, so Fozzie's got some trust

                            that's an extraordinary thing to read.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Even though Dave Havili hasn't been playing particularly well, I suspect he's at least in the frame, because he's been there, so Fozzie's got some trust

                              that's an extraordinary thing to read.

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                              @mariner4life In what way?

                              Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @mariner4life In what way?

                                Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

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                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @mariner4life In what way?

                                Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

                                because he was poor last year at test level. Has been pretty average this year at Super level

                                But he'll get picked because he's been there before. It's this kind of shit that gets the punters offside.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @mariner4life In what way?

                                  Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

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                                  @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @mariner4life In what way?

                                    Dave was clearly Fozzie's man for 12 last year - he picked him a dozen times and ran him into the ground.

                                    because he was poor last year at test level. Has been pretty average this year at Super level

                                    But he'll get picked because he's been there before. It's this kind of shit that gets the punters offside.

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                                    @mariner4life It's a tough job being the All Black coach - I guess that's why he gets the big bucks. 🙂

                                    Fozzie could have picked Tupaea more last year, but he didn't. Makes you wonder why not.

                                    Dave is far from a cast iron certainty, but they will spend a lot of time picking their midfield, because they have some big problems there - and his name will get mentioned a lot.

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                                    • broughieB broughie

                                      @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

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                                      @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

                                      Doesn't Razor select him at 12 as well? Must be as dumb as Fozzie.

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

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                                        @broughie Compared to us - Fozzie's got to take the heat for any fuck-ups.

                                        Even if he picks the Fern consensus team, if the ABs lose and a few newbies shit the bed - that's his incompetence, not ours - and we will roast him for it! 🙂

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

                                          Doesn't Razor select him at 12 as well? Must be as dumb as Fozzie.

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                                          @Crucial Maybe he doesn’t have any other options at 12 but is he really an AB 12?

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