Highlanders 2022
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Florence would have been available this year, but they've got Lentjes, Harmon and Evans in those positions. Plus Withy.
@Bovidae said in Highlanders 2022:
Lentjes, Harmon and Evans
All pretty limited players.
Brown has made a ton of excuses this year and blamed his limited squad. Well he selected them! Hasn't shown any ability to develop a squad the last few seasons, and his coaching has been poor. He has the excuse of being distracted by Japan, but I think his reputation has seriously declined, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the ABs. Too much bullshit inside the squad to want him involved with the AB culture.
Really think the NZRU needs to put a stop to Super Rugby head coaches having major appointments overseas at the same time. Has resulted in disastrous seasons for the Chiefs and Highlanders, and squanders the five positions available.
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@Bovidae said in Highlanders 2022:
Lentjes, Harmon and Evans
All pretty limited players.
Brown has made a ton of excuses this year and blamed his limited squad. Well he selected them! Hasn't shown any ability to develop a squad the last few seasons, and his coaching has been poor. He has the excuse of being distracted by Japan, but I think his reputation has seriously declined, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the ABs. Too much bullshit inside the squad to want him involved with the AB culture.
Really think the NZRU needs to put a stop to Super Rugby head coaches having major appointments overseas at the same time. Has resulted in disastrous seasons for the Chiefs and Highlanders, and squanders the five positions available.
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@Bovidae said in Highlanders 2022:
Lentjes, Harmon and Evans
All pretty limited players.
Brown has made a ton of excuses this year and blamed his limited squad. Well he selected them! Hasn't shown any ability to develop a squad the last few seasons, and his coaching has been poor. He has the excuse of being distracted by Japan, but I think his reputation has seriously declined, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the ABs. Too much bullshit inside the squad to want him involved with the AB culture.
Really think the NZRU needs to put a stop to Super Rugby head coaches having major appointments overseas at the same time. Has resulted in disastrous seasons for the Chiefs and Highlanders, and squanders the five positions available.
@Tim Fair comment about Brown. All I am saying is that if players are already contracted it is hard to find space for someone like Florence. I would happily have him at the Chiefs too, but the same applied.
A new coach might have completely different ideas on the merits of some current players. Dermody would have been involved in the selection choices so I wouldn't expect too many changes if he gets the job.
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@Bovidae said in Highlanders 2022:
Lentjes, Harmon and Evans
All pretty limited players.
Brown has made a ton of excuses this year and blamed his limited squad. Well he selected them! Hasn't shown any ability to develop a squad the last few seasons, and his coaching has been poor. He has the excuse of being distracted by Japan, but I think his reputation has seriously declined, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near the ABs. Too much bullshit inside the squad to want him involved with the AB culture.
Really think the NZRU needs to put a stop to Super Rugby head coaches having major appointments overseas at the same time. Has resulted in disastrous seasons for the Chiefs and Highlanders, and squanders the five positions available.
@Tim im slightly more forgiving, yes, very must distracted...but he's also just not a head coach i think.
He's an assistant/attack/backs coach
I had a similar argument with the coach of the club team i manage on the weekend. We have a very good winger that can cover fullback...but our 10 got pulled up to the 1's and our reserve 10 got injured, so we asked this guys to play 10...and he shat the bed. the coach pulled him at half time and the we had injuries and because we'd already used our reserve backs we had to throw a loosie on the wing...anyway...JF gets shitty at Alistar for playing badly...and i had to point out...we asked him to do it, and he did it because hes a club man. Yes he could have played better and so takes some responsibility for that...but we asked...so thats on us....and then you pulled him rather than just moving him back to the wing...so thats on you!
Browny has said before he wasn't interested in the top job, that he was a assistant/backs/attack coach...but we the fans wanted him....when no one else viable put their hand up...so yes...i dont understand some of the things hes done this year...but most of us wanted him, and thats on us
@Stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@Tim At Super Rugby level, Harmon and G. Evans aren't limited players. I'd say they are very handy players at this level. Both very injury prone though. And Evans is 30 years old now, so may be looking at a stint overseas.
i agree, I actually think Harmon has played very well this year keeping in mind he has been injured for a fair chunk of it, similar to lentjes, hes had highs and lows but more highs than lows, and evans was brought in as 3-4 choice 6/8 and due to injury played a lot for his age
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Get Mark Ozich back from the Force. He inherited a poor performing Magpies squad from Phil Crackpott, and made them into one of the better teams in the NPC in a few years time. Used more local talent, recruited better from outside and, most importantly, coached a lot better. He's one of upcoming coaches that NZR shouldn't let go (permanently). On top of that, he has already coached the Highlanders U20s last year.
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Get Mark Ozich back from the Force. He inherited a poor performing Magpies squad from Phil Crackpott, and made them into one of the better teams in the NPC in a few years time. Used more local talent, recruited better from outside and, most importantly, coached a lot better. He's one of upcoming coaches that NZR shouldn't let go (permanently). On top of that, he has already coached the Highlanders U20s last year.
@Stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
Get Mark Ozich back from the Force. He inherited a poor performing Magpies squad from Phil Crackpott, and made them into one of the better teams in the NPC in a few years time. Used more local talent, recruited better from outside and, most importantly, coached a lot better. He's one of upcoming coaches that NZR shouldn't let go (permanently). On top of that, he has already coached the Highlanders U20s last year.
Yep, especially as the Force signed a new (Kiwi) head coach this year too.
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This just popped up, it’s legit the type of thing we could have tried when hunt started struggling
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This just popped up, it’s legit the type of thing we could have tried when hunt started struggling
@Kiwiwomble said in Highlanders 2022:
This just popped up, it’s legit the type of thing we could have tried when hunt started struggling
I think you did when Gilbert was at 10.
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“We were talking about championships before we even got to a playoff,” Smith said. “But that doesn’t buy you a championship. “...it wasn’t built through hard work and trust and selflessness and doing your job creates a try for others, or wanting to tackle for your mate. “Or were they [the All Blacks] just counting their money? Were they here just to get a bonus cheque and get ready for the All Blacks, some of them? “It’s hard to say, but that’s what I saw.” Smith also pointed to rancorous parties after the season had finished, when ill-feeling that had been building up within the squad exploded. “There were fights,” Smith said. “You shouldn’t fight your team-mates. That’s one sign I knew there was poison.” From that viewpoint, he could see the unhappiness building, and said that “double standards” started to creep in when the Highlanders’ All Blacks weren’t being pulled up by the coaches for errors in the same way that younger players were.damn
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“We were talking about championships before we even got to a playoff,” Smith said. “But that doesn’t buy you a championship. “...it wasn’t built through hard work and trust and selflessness and doing your job creates a try for others, or wanting to tackle for your mate. “Or were they [the All Blacks] just counting their money? Were they here just to get a bonus cheque and get ready for the All Blacks, some of them? “It’s hard to say, but that’s what I saw.” Smith also pointed to rancorous parties after the season had finished, when ill-feeling that had been building up within the squad exploded. “There were fights,” Smith said. “You shouldn’t fight your team-mates. That’s one sign I knew there was poison.” From that viewpoint, he could see the unhappiness building, and said that “double standards” started to creep in when the Highlanders’ All Blacks weren’t being pulled up by the coaches for errors in the same way that younger players were.damn
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@Kiwiwomble yeah the big party at Haskell's was pretty crazy. Dunno if you've read about it or anything, Lima went deep about it on a podcast I heard.
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@Yeetyaah thats about as much as heard about it, big messy party
this is all stuff that i suspected but a big call to actually come out and say it i think
what was the podcast?
@Kiwiwomble What a Lad podcast hosted by James Marshall. Pretty decent tbh.
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@Kiwiwomble What a Lad podcast hosted by James Marshall. Pretty decent tbh.
@Yeetyaah downloaded a few ones thats sound good
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@Tim At Super Rugby level, Harmon and G. Evans aren't limited players. I'd say they are very handy players at this level. Both very injury prone though. And Evans is 30 years old now, so may be looking at a stint overseas.
@Stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@Tim At Super Rugby level, Harmon and G. Evans aren't limited players. I'd say they are very handy players at this level. Both very injury prone though. And Evans is 30 years old now, so may be looking at a stint overseas.
Yeah Harmon is excellent, he's quite a bit more traditional openside than most - not quite test level good, but better than the likes of Choat, Lentjes, Gibson...
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@Kiwiwomble What a Lad podcast hosted by James Marshall. Pretty decent tbh.
@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders 2022:
@Kiwiwomble What a Lad podcast hosted by James Marshall. Pretty decent tbh.
just listening to the solomon alaimalo one, interesting to hear he did get back to the point where he could train with the injured guys, thats good, really sounds like he'd just missed too much to force out one of the other guys rather than still really struggling
...also interesting he seemed to struggle to remember how many siblings he had!
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wow, just reading that browny was on a flight to japan on saturday night after the game...how could you not be distracted!
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wow, just reading that browny was on a flight to japan on saturday night after the game...how could you not be distracted!
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@Kiwiwomble Yeah, I posted that in the match thread. Was a bit surprised to read that. Was wondering whether travellers still have to go into quarantine when they arrive in Japan ...
@Stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@Kiwiwomble Yeah, I posted that in the match thread. Was a bit surprised to read that. Was wondering whether travellers still have to go into quarantine when they arrive in Japan ...
No, for travelers from NZ who are tripled vaxxed.
