All Blacks 2022
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
Mainly props are the biggest concern, don't think we bad off with locks, or even hookers.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
Mainly props are the biggest concern, don't think we bad off with locks, or even hookers.
The locking problem is two aging greats, a good handful of inexperienced youngsters, and the often excellent Barrett who can't stop being a moron for cards.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
Mainly props are the biggest concern, don't think we bad off with locks, or even hookers.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
Mainly props are the biggest concern, don't think we bad off with locks, or even hookers.
lock and hooker is based on hope
hope Taylor, Whitelock and Retallick aren't cooked, were just tired last year
Hope Barrett has another gear we haven't seen yet, and can stay on the field
Hope the young locks can step up (and they get meaningful game time) -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
Mainly props are the biggest concern, don't think we bad off with locks, or even hookers.
The locking problem is two aging greats, a good handful of inexperienced youngsters, and the often excellent Barrett who can't stop being a moron for cards.
@Machpants I think if we get our props doing a bit more of the grunt work (which a few of those in super rugby are showing signs of) it will allow Whitelock and BR a bit more freedom, and maybe have some energy left to get around the park, and SB to make better decisions from his oxygen starved brain.
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@Machpants I think if we get our props doing a bit more of the grunt work (which a few of those in super rugby are showing signs of) it will allow Whitelock and BR a bit more freedom, and maybe have some energy left to get around the park, and SB to make better decisions from his oxygen starved brain.
@taniwharugby last year Moody was below his best, Laulala is more liability than anything else, Karl T has fallen off a cliff form wise, Ofa also had issues staying on the park, and we have a crop of “who’s next”
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Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
That’s because backs win rugby matches (and get the hot women). And loosies just wish they were backs.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2022:
Missed a lot of super rugby this year compared to the past .
Really enjoyed this thread to get me up to speed before the internationals start .
Lots of discussion around the backs and loosies which should be an area of strength given our depth .
How we looking in the tight 5 , that is still our area of concern yeah ?
That’s because backs win rugby matches (and get the hot women). And loosies just wish they were backs.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
And loosies just wish they were backs
it's true, we all want to play midfield
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@taniwharugby last year Moody was below his best, Laulala is more liability than anything else, Karl T has fallen off a cliff form wise, Ofa also had issues staying on the park, and we have a crop of “who’s next”
@ACT-Crusader which is probably where the biggest drop off has come for AB rugby the past few years with little to no impact from our props around the park, even our hookers (exc ST) have had thier time where they have been well of thier game too.
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@ACT-Crusader which is probably where the biggest drop off has come for AB rugby the past few years with little to no impact from our props around the park, even our hookers (exc ST) have had thier time where they have been well of thier game too.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader which is probably where the biggest drop off has come for AB rugby the past few years with little to no impact from our props around the park, even our hookers (exc ST) have had thier time where they have been well of thier game too.
I actually don't think Coles has been off his game, he's just been out of the game too often.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader which is probably where the biggest drop off has come for AB rugby the past few years with little to no impact from our props around the park, even our hookers (exc ST) have had thier time where they have been well of thier game too.
I actually don't think Coles has been off his game, he's just been out of the game too often.
@Nepia well he aint been about, so he aint been on!
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An article about the loosie selections. Some similar points have been made in this thread, it’s still a reasonable summary:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ethan-blackadders-injury-could-prolong-some-all-blacks-careers/
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I'd just do the Blues 10,12,13. I think there is a lot to say for a combination of guys that train and play together.
Then have the option to move JB in case RTS is out of his depth, which I highly doubt.@Darren said in All Blacks 2022:
I'd just do the Blues 10,12,13. I think there is a lot to say for a combination of guys that train and play together.
Then have the option to move JB in case RTS is out of his depth, which I highly doubt.Goodhue on bench as insurance. Also gives several tactical options in terms of whom he replaces.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
I agree Frizell will be there. He wouldn't be in my squad but they'll pick him.
Big problem I have is that this is shaping like a squad which is very close to the EOYT one. That underwhelmed.
Sure the boys were burnt out by too much PlayStation, but I'd have thought one or two would have been identified as not quite top test standard.
If which case we need to see some new blood, surely?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
I agree Frizell will be there. He wouldn't be in my squad but they'll pick him.
Big problem I have is that this is shaping like a squad which is very close to the EOYT one. That underwhelmed.
Sure the boys were burnt out by too much PlayStation, but I'd have thought one or two would have been identified as not quite top test standard.
If which case we need to see some new blood, surely?
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On the basis that playoff rugby matters for the AB selections:
PGS has no chance
Weber played himself into the Maori squad
Tupaea needs RTS to shit the bed to stay
Ta’avao might get a reprieve
Ross’ stocks likely went up
Jager won’t be an AB
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I'm really looking forward to seeing how RTS goes now. The chiefs 12 was cake, if he's our guy for the ABs we're in trouble.
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I'm really looking forward to seeing how RTS goes now. The chiefs 12 was cake, if he's our guy for the ABs we're in trouble.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm really looking forward to seeing how RTS goes now. The chiefs 12 was cake, if he's our guy for the ABs we're in trouble.
He really shit the bed tonight and has a huge amount of redeeming to be done. Pity as he had been playing really well.
Neither of the Saders midfielders did much with the ball so hard to judge attack and the Saders defence is absorbing so even though their tackles were made they were still allowing chances to be created (just not taken)
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I'm not sure AB selectors write a player off after one poor performance in a bad team match, shit actually scratch that they wrote of Reiko and Ben Smith that way. QT is done.
So our 12 options are:
A dude who shit the bed tonight.
A dude who flopped in test rugby last year.
A league player.
A fullback.
An always injured pie eater.Any others I've missed?
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I'm not sure AB selectors write a player off after one poor performance in a bad team match, shit actually scratch that they wrote of Reiko and Ben Smith that way. QT is done.
So our 12 options are:
A dude who shit the bed tonight.
A dude who flopped in test rugby last year.
A league player.
A fullback.
An always injured pie eater.Any others I've missed?
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm not sure AB selectors write a player off after one poor performance in a bad team match, shit actually scratch that they wrote of Reiko and Ben Smith that way. QT is done.
So our 12 options are:
A dude who shit the bed tonight.
A dude who flopped in test rugby last year.
A league player.
A fullback.Any others I've missed?
2017 U20 World Championship winning no.12 Thomas Umaga-Jensen? Now weighing in at 108kg.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm not sure AB selectors write a player off after one poor performance in a bad team match, shit actually scratch that they wrote of Reiko and Ben Smith that way. QT is done.
So our 12 options are:
A dude who shit the bed tonight.
A dude who flopped in test rugby last year.
A league player.
A fullback.Any others I've missed?
2017 U20 World Championship winning no.12 Thomas Umaga-Jensen? Now weighing in at 108kg.
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm not sure AB selectors write a player off after one poor performance in a bad team match, shit actually scratch that they wrote of Reiko and Ben Smith that way. QT is done.
So our 12 options are:
A dude who shit the bed tonight.
A dude who flopped in test rugby last year.
A league player.
A fullback.Any others I've missed?
2017 U20 Championship winning no.12 Thomas Umaga-Jensen? Now weighing in at 108kg.
He's too small, call me back when he hits 114kg.
