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All Blacks 2022

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  • broughieB broughie

    @Bones Just remember who he was operating outside of. Gatland is predictable and offered no ability to break the line so they could focus on Tupea. I not saying he the best we have but I must be hard looking at 2 tacklers in front on you all the time.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones Just remember who he was operating outside of. Gatland is predictable and offered no ability to break the line so they could focus on Tupea. I not saying he the best we have but I must be hard looking at 2 tacklers in front on you all the time.

    That's not the case.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones Just remember who he was operating outside of. Gatland is predictable and offered no ability to break the line so they could focus on Tupea. I not saying he the best we have but I must be hard looking at 2 tacklers in front on you all the time.

      That's not the case.

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      @Bones if Gatland is no threat the defense just slides across no?

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        After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.

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        • number9N number9

          After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.

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          @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

          After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.

          I can see Perofeta in the squad and in the 23 for one of the later tests. Turning into a very safe, mature player.

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          • number9N number9

            After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.

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            @number9 Eh? Why Hodgman? Agree with Robinson(have for the last few years).

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            • number9N number9

              After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.

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              @number9 Hodgman was brilliant tonight at leading our counter rocking. A perfect bench option at test level imo.

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                Who does Robinson get in there for? He played very well tonight no doubt about it.

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                  Can't see Alix Hodgemen making it. When is Moody back?

                  De Groot, Williams look like future stars rather than honest toilers. Is Norris LH also?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    Can't see Alix Hodgemen making it. When is Moody back?

                    De Groot, Williams look like future stars rather than honest toilers. Is Norris LH also?

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Can't see Alix Hodgemen making it. When is Moody back?

                    De Groot, Williams look like future stars rather than honest toilers. Is Norris LH also?

                    In 2023.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Can't see Alix Hodgemen making it. When is Moody back?

                      De Groot, Williams look like future stars rather than honest toilers. Is Norris LH also?

                      In 2023.

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                      @Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.

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                      • broughieB broughie

                        @Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.

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                        @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.

                        Might come back refreshed and rejuvenated! Can get some inspiration from Laulala.

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                          So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?

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                            So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Fucking Finau

                            Was keeping an eye on him on your recommendation. Think he played himself out of immediate contention with one play, or non play, on Grace. Unforgivable.

                            Thought it was, saw somewhere about it.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              Who does Robinson get in there for? He played very well tonight no doubt about it.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Who does Robinson get in there for? He played very well tonight no doubt about it.

                              He's a lock/loose utility at Test level. Probably late squad pick, but can't see him in the 23 unless weird things happen.

                              Playing well doesn't necesarily get you into the ABs - as you say, there has to be a space that you are better than someone else to get in.

                              I think Perofeta gets there as the third 10 and utility back. Competing iwth DMac when he comes back though

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                              • M Machpants

                                So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?

                                Not listed to be on Sky at this stage. Maybe streamed via allblacks.com socials?

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?

                                  Not listed to be on Sky at this stage. Maybe streamed via allblacks.com socials?

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                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?

                                  Not listed to be on Sky at this stage. Maybe streamed via allblacks.com socials?

                                  Yeah it is, saw a link to the live stream on FB

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.

                                    Might come back refreshed and rejuvenated! Can get some inspiration from Laulala.

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                                    @Bones one can only hope because with the ABs sometimes these characters hang around based on reputation and not performance. Yes good for Nepo in the scrum last night but I think you would agree that we need props that can scrum and take up the ball and the rest. Not one dimensional. Plus yea he stayed out of the bin.

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                                      Paul Cully with his possible AB squad (including 5 new caps):

                                      Hookers: Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Samisoni Taukei’aho (Chiefs), Dane Coles (Hurricanes)

                                      Props: Nepo Laulala (Blues), Ofa Tuungafasi (Blues), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Ethan de Groot (Highlanders), George Bower (Crusaders), Aidan Ross (Chiefs)

                                      Locks: Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Josh Lord (Chiefs), Tupou Vaa’i (Chiefs), Scott Barrett (Crusaders)

                                      Loose forwards: Sam Cane (Chiefs, captain), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Dalton Papalii (Blues), Akira Ioane (Blues), Luke Jacobson (Chiefs), Hoskins Sotutu (Blues), Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)

                                      Halfbacks: Aaron Smith (Highlanders), Brad Weber (Chiefs), Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)

                                      No 10s: Beauden Barrett (Blues), Richie Mo’unga (Crusaders)

                                      Midfielders: Rieko Ioane (Blues), Jack Goodhue (Crusaders), Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues), Leicester Fainga’anuku (Crusaders)

                                      Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Blues), Sevu Reece (Crusaders), Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes), Will Jordan (Crusaders), Stephen Perofeta (Blues)

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/128928523/all-blacks-may-omit-tj-perenara-but-wholesale-changes-are-unlikely

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        @Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.

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                                        @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.

                                        IMO he's still the best LH we have.

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Who does Robinson get in there for? He played very well tonight no doubt about it.

                                          He's a lock/loose utility at Test level. Probably late squad pick, but can't see him in the 23 unless weird things happen.

                                          Playing well doesn't necesarily get you into the ABs - as you say, there has to be a space that you are better than someone else to get in.

                                          I think Perofeta gets there as the third 10 and utility back. Competing iwth DMac when he comes back though

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                                          @nzzp As much as I think Robinson would be vwry good in the test environment, who does he replace?

                                          In a way I think he is competing directly with Vai who is a lock that can play 6 while Robinson is a 6 that can play lock, and Vai has shown enough to continue the investment in him.

                                          And this is where the NZ Maori is an issue for guys like Robinson, Eklund, Seger, Holland, MMT, Morgan, Roe etc, even Frizzel if he isn't in the main squad*

                                          Guys that would likely thrive if given a chance against Ireland if it was NZ A, not NZ Maori playing them.

                                          *Assuming none have any Maori ancestors.

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