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  • P pakman

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

    So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

    Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

    So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

    Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

      It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

      So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

      Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

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      #2384

      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

      @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

      It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

      So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

      Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

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      Here's Liam Napiers squad prediction:

      Possible All Blacks squad:
      Outside backs: Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku
      Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, David Havili, Jack Goodhue, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
      First fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Stephen Perofeta
      Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava
      Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell
      Locks: Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Josh Lord
      Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Dane Coles
      Props: Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Ethan de Groot, George Bower, Tyrel Lomax/Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

        So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

        Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

        Liam Napier picking Sotutu to miss out

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        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

        @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

        It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

        So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

        Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

        Liam Napier picking Sotutu to miss out

        That makes no sense at all, he is the form loose forward in NZ, there is no way Frizzel should be ahead of him.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

          It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

          So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

          Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

          Liam Napier picking Sotutu to miss out

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          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

          @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

          It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

          So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

          Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

          Liam Napier picking Sotutu to miss out

          That is complete bullshit if he does

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            Napier is also going for an extra outside back instead of a loose forward. That makes no sense, given the attrition rate for the loosies.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

              @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Chris-B probably what he is saying is that it is extraordinary that Foster still thinks he is a 12 when most of us don’t. I understand your rational for Fosters thinking but that highlights Fosters weakness as a coach for a position he never deserved.

              Doesn't Razor select him at 12 as well? Must be as dumb as Fozzie.

              I'm sure someone else has mentioned it, but that's the last position available in the Crusaders backline. He can't play at fullback as Jordan has a lock on that.

              His feet into contact aren't as good as RTS'. His dynamism into contact isn't as good as Tupaea's or Goodhue's. He's not a dominant tackler. He's good at a lot of things and brilliant at Test level at none. His versatility might get him into the squad but he's not a compelling argument to start.

              Fozzie will no doubt think differently because he has form for not taking selection risks.

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

              Fozzie will no doubt think differently because he has form for not taking selection risks.

              And then not taking selection risks becomes a risk in itself when you stay with the same old same old

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

                  So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

                  Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

                  Paywalled

                  Here's Liam Napiers squad prediction:

                  Possible All Blacks squad:
                  Outside backs: Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku
                  Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, David Havili, Jack Goodhue, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
                  First fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Stephen Perofeta
                  Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava
                  Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell
                  Locks: Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Josh Lord
                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Dane Coles
                  Props: Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Ethan de Groot, George Bower, Tyrel Lomax/Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross

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                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                  It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

                  So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

                  Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

                  Paywalled

                  Here's Liam Napiers squad prediction:

                  Possible All Blacks squad:
                  Outside backs: Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku
                  Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, David Havili, Jack Goodhue, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
                  First fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Stephen Perofeta
                  Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava
                  Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell
                  Locks: Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Josh Lord
                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Dane Coles
                  Props: Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Ethan de Groot, George Bower, Tyrel Lomax/Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross

                  Frizell ahead of Sotutu?
                  Wow! That paywall really has some "special" contact behind it.

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                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

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                    @Daffy-Jaffy some of the comments on that page are amusing!!

                    One dude seems keen on Gatland over Perofeta!

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Daffy-Jaffy some of the comments on that page are amusing!!

                      One dude seems keen on Gatland over Perofeta!

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                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy some of the comments on that page are amusing!!

                      One dude seems keen on Gatland over Perofeta!

                      Havili for captain. Bring back Cowan. 😄

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                        #2393

                        The Stuff blog is saying that TJP isn't in the AB squad. Not a big surprise, if correct.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                          It would be sensible to have some like-for-like replacements in key positions like centre. Losing Rieko would completely change the potency of the midfield and backline for the worse. Sullivan will get his chance for the Māori if he doesn't make the ABs. A strong performance in those games will help his cause.

                          So how many AB careers end today? Bridge would have to be the obvious candidate, but there are a few others that are 50/50 for selection, and others who could have the Māori lifeline (overlooked but not completely).

                          Bridge/TJP? https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/the-likely-all-blacks-ian-fosters-two-difficult-phone-calls/XMZEWSXE3FB5WNR2VATNRQ56YU/

                          Paywalled

                          Here's Liam Napiers squad prediction:

                          Possible All Blacks squad:
                          Outside backs: Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku
                          Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, David Havili, Jack Goodhue, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
                          First fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Stephen Perofeta
                          Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava
                          Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell
                          Locks: Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Josh Lord
                          Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Dane Coles
                          Props: Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Ethan de Groot, George Bower, Tyrel Lomax/Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross

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                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Here's Liam Napiers squad prediction:

                          Possible All Blacks squad:
                          Outside backs: Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku
                          Midfield: Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, David Havili, Jack Goodhue, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
                          First fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Stephen Perofeta
                          Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava
                          Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell
                          Locks: Brodie Retallick, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Josh Lord
                          Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Dane Coles
                          Props: Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Ethan de Groot, George Bower, Tyrel Lomax/Angus Ta'avao, Aidan Ross

                          Too many backs.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            The Stuff blog is saying that TJP isn't in the AB squad. Not a big surprise, if correct.

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                            @Bovidae

                            Also:

                            Speaking of new caps... more breaking news for you...

                            Stuff understands Highlanders halfback Folau Fakatava will be named, while Blues duo Stephen Perofeta and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be there as well.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @Bovidae

                              Also:

                              Speaking of new caps... more breaking news for you...

                              Stuff understands Highlanders halfback Folau Fakatava will be named, while Blues duo Stephen Perofeta and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be there as well.

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                              @Tim Yeah, I just read that too.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Bovidae

                                Also:

                                Speaking of new caps... more breaking news for you...

                                Stuff understands Highlanders halfback Folau Fakatava will be named, while Blues duo Stephen Perofeta and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be there as well.

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                                @Tim Cully 3, Napier 1 😀

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                                  Speaking of props, has there been any word around the possibility of a Franks recall? I'd love to see it

                                  🤣

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @Bovidae

                                    Also:

                                    Speaking of new caps... more breaking news for you...

                                    Stuff understands Highlanders halfback Folau Fakatava will be named, while Blues duo Stephen Perofeta and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be there as well.

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Bovidae

                                    Also:

                                    Speaking of new caps... more breaking news for you...

                                    Stuff understands Highlanders halfback Folau Fakatava will be named, while Blues duo Stephen Perofeta and Roger Tuivasa-Sheck will be there as well.

                                    Not shocking that revelation, he probably guessed and hopes he's correct 😉

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                                      Oh, we are in church apparantly, FFS.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        Oh, we are in church apparantly, FFS.

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                                        @Kirwan they could still connect with the community but no need for the preacher

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                                          What are we watching here

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