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    I guess we will target Ireland for scrum penalties?

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

      We’ve been calling for the selectors to be a bit more bold and it could’ve been quite easy to go back to Perenara and Weber but they’ve gone for two younger players.

      Could’ve selected Ennor but they’re taking a punt on an ex-leaguie who’s played in all reality not a lot of footy.

      I applaud that.

      My main quibble is PGS instead of someone like MMT.

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      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

      We’ve been calling for the selectors to be a bit more bold and it could’ve been quite easy to go back to Perenara and Weber but they’ve gone for two younger players.

      Could’ve selected Ennor but they’re taking a punt on an ex-leaguie who’s played in all reality not a lot of footy.

      I applaud that.

      My main quibble is PGS instead of someone like MMT.

      I still think MMT’s time will come. Big fan of his.

      Put it down to more Chiefs bias 😎

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

        We’ve been calling for the selectors to be a bit more bold and it could’ve been quite easy to go back to Perenara and Weber but they’ve gone for two younger players.

        Could’ve selected Ennor but they’re taking a punt on an ex-leaguie who’s played in all reality not a lot of footy.

        I applaud that.

        My main quibble is PGS instead of someone like MMT.

        I still think MMT’s time will come. Big fan of his.

        Put it down to more Chiefs bias 😎

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        @ACT-Crusader Plumtree's Taranaki bias. 🙂

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          Hodgeman/Robinson should feel a little hard done by, not sure what else they need to do, I hope this doesn't fuck with their heads before the weekend.
          I would have preferred Sullivan over Havs as he has future written all over him whereas Havs at best is second rate cover.

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          • TimT Tim

            I guess we will target Ireland for scrum penalties?

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

            I guess we will target Ireland for scrum penalties?

            Ireland have a pretty weak scrum, we should dominate them in that area.

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            • number9N number9

              So Big Karl plays maybe 2 hours all season, is leaving for Europe and Fozz the fuckwit still selects him. Fucking idiot.

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              @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

              So Big Karl plays maybe 2 hours all season, is leaving for Europe and Fozz the fuckwit still selects him. Fucking idiot.

              100% biggest suprise for me too - playing looked like a guy who had no chance of getting in the AB's too.
              I know they like older props who are 'mature'.. but I reckon if you're good enough you're good enough and this is a selection that could bite us in the arse next year. Should have had one youthful player in there

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                The selection of Karl Tuinukuafe obviously means they are worried about the scrummaging ability of the other options.

                (not saying I agree)

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                • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                  @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                  So Big Karl plays maybe 2 hours all season, is leaving for Europe and Fozz the fuckwit still selects him. Fucking idiot.

                  100% biggest suprise for me too - playing looked like a guy who had no chance of getting in the AB's too.
                  I know they like older props who are 'mature'.. but I reckon if you're good enough you're good enough and this is a selection that could bite us in the arse next year. Should have had one youthful player in there

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                  @WillieTheWaiter Aidan Ross is only 26, so plenty of years ahead of him whilst having a decent body of work under his belt.

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                    With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                    Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                    PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

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                    • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                      @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                      So Big Karl plays maybe 2 hours all season, is leaving for Europe and Fozz the fuckwit still selects him. Fucking idiot.

                      100% biggest suprise for me too - playing looked like a guy who had no chance of getting in the AB's too.
                      I know they like older props who are 'mature'.. but I reckon if you're good enough you're good enough and this is a selection that could bite us in the arse next year. Should have had one youthful player in there

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                      @WillieTheWaiter Maybe it's just for the July Series, and they may go for a different selection for the Rugby Championship/Bledisloe Cup?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Good possibility that this will be the starting tight five:

                        1 Tu’inukuafe
                        2 Taylor
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Whitelock
                        5 Retallick

                        Not great.

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                        #2513

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Good possibility that this will be the starting tight five:

                        1 Tu’inukuafe
                        2 Taylor
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Whitelock
                        5 Retallick

                        Not great.

                        I'd assume Samisoni starts ahead of Taylor - like way ahead.
                        But with this conservative coaching group, I fear you could be right.

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                        • F Frank

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Good possibility that this will be the starting tight five:

                          1 Tu’inukuafe
                          2 Taylor
                          3 Laulala
                          4 Whitelock
                          5 Retallick

                          Not great.

                          I'd assume Samisoni starts ahead of Taylor - like way ahead.
                          But with this conservative coaching group, I fear you could be right.

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                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Good possibility that this will be the starting tight five:

                          1 Tu’inukuafe
                          2 Taylor
                          3 Laulala
                          4 Whitelock
                          5 Retallick

                          Not great.

                          I'd assume Samisoni starts ahead of Taylor - like way ahead.
                          But with this conservative coaching group, I fear you could be right.

                          I don't think Tu'inukafe will start, or make bench, I guessing the feeling is someone like Ollie Norris is better to actually be getting gametime against Irish for MABs, and then come into ABs for RC?

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @WillieTheWaiter Maybe it's just for the July Series, and they may go for a different selection for the Rugby Championship/Bledisloe Cup?

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                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @WillieTheWaiter Maybe it's just for the July Series, and they may go for a different selection for the Rugby Championship/Bledisloe Cup?

                            its a consideration the question would be why tho?!

                            only 18 games til the WC

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                              Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                              PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                              With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                              Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                              PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

                              totally agree - Hansen was even banging on about that so not a new issue

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @ACT-Crusader Plumtree's Taranaki bias. 🙂

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                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @ACT-Crusader Plumtree's Taranaki bias. 🙂

                                So he both provincial and franchise bias in his favour. When will this favouritism ever end?

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                                  Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                                  PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                                  Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                                  PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

                                  PGS will be the backup six to Akira, IMO. If they start ST instead of Taylor, and with Ofa's improved ball running/fitness (probably from the bench) you have two great ball running options just from the front row.

                                  Akira/Ardie/Cane with Dalton on the bench gives good options there too. Really the locks that have to up that area of the game, so a lot resting on Scott Barrett IMO.

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                                    Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                                    PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

                                    PGS will be the backup six to Akira, IMO. If they start ST instead of Taylor, and with Ofa's improved ball running/fitness (probably from the bench) you have two great ball running options just from the front row.

                                    Akira/Ardie/Cane with Dalton on the bench gives good options there too. Really the locks that have to up that area of the game, so a lot resting on Scott Barrett IMO.

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                                    Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                                    PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

                                    PGS will be the backup six to Akira, IMO. If they start ST instead of Taylor, and with Ofa's improved ball running/fitness (probably from the bench) you have two great ball running options just from the front row.

                                    Akira/Ardie/Cane with Dalton on the bench gives good options there too. Really the locks that have to up that area of the game, so a lot resting on Scott Barrett IMO.

                                    If that is our starting loose trio and it most likely will be, I really hope they go for Sotutu on the bench.

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                                      Bit disappointed with the selections of Karl and PGS. Very surprised no Luke J or De Groot. Would have vastly preferred Jordie as a 12 and Sullivan for RTS, Havili or Lester, but understand their reluctance. Else all good.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                                        Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                                        PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

                                        PGS will be the backup six to Akira, IMO. If they start ST instead of Taylor, and with Ofa's improved ball running/fitness (probably from the bench) you have two great ball running options just from the front row.

                                        Akira/Ardie/Cane with Dalton on the bench gives good options there too. Really the locks that have to up that area of the game, so a lot resting on Scott Barrett IMO.

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                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        With those prop selections we don't seem to be addressing the lack of ball running ability problem from last season.
                                        Is this going to be more of the same the backs taken out of the game by us not getting over the gain line up front.
                                        PGS there for that I suppose but won't start ahead of Ardie,RTS,LF will not get much game time it looks a lot like last year to me.The 23 looks like it will not change from last season.

                                        PGS will be the backup six to Akira, IMO. If they start ST instead of Taylor, and with Ofa's improved ball running/fitness (probably from the bench) you have two great ball running options just from the front row.

                                        Akira/Ardie/Cane with Dalton on the bench gives good options there too. Really the locks that have to up that area of the game, so a lot resting on Scott Barrett IMO.

                                        Maybe, I just don't have much faith in Fosters and co's selections when it comes to the 23.I can see better options in the squad than what they might actually pick.
                                        It will be interesting to see that first 23 for the first test v Ireland.
                                        I think Barret is probably the no.1 lock ATM.

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          Big Karl and Peter Gus the biggest surprises for me.

                                          Not keen on Big Karl, but Peter Gus is the closest thing we have to a big blockbusting No. 8, which is something I'm very keen on - so if he can lift his skills a bit, he could be pretty handy!

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                                          @Chris-B Showed promise at the beginning of the year and possibly in the AB environment he might be able to lift his game. Did he play every game of the Chiefs campaign?

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