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All Blacks 2022

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  • chimoausC chimoaus

    @Stag said in All Blacks 2022:

    The weakest front row and loose forward selections I have seen in an All Blacks squad for a long time.

    Have you watched any Blues games this season? Paps, Sotutu and Ioane have almost the perfect mix and synergy and I would be over the moon to have them in the AB's.

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    @chimoaus if the Blues dominate both areas in the final I’ll agree with you, if they don’t you are wrong.

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    • TimT Tim

      Cane maybe captain, but is recovering from injury … again.

      Does anyone think he will play better than Papalii would in this series?

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      @Tim nope.

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      • StagS Stag

        @chimoaus if the Blues dominate both areas in the final I’ll agree with you, if they don’t you are wrong.

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        @Stag said in All Blacks 2022:

        @chimoaus if the Blues dominate both areas in the final I’ll agree with you, if they don’t you are wrong.

        Are there loose forwards you would select that weren't selected or you just feel it's a low talent area at the moment?

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          Where does Pita Gus fall on the poach scale?

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            Where does Pita Gus fall on the poach scale?

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            @Frye Played Basketball for Fiji. Came to NZ at ~ 19yo to play Basketball for Otago. Went back to Fiji/US College ball. Then came back to NZ at ~ 20yo to play rugby in Taranaki.

            Definite poach, but not as an established rugby "star".

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            • TimT Tim

              @Frye Played Basketball for Fiji. Came to NZ at ~ 19yo to play Basketball for Otago. Went back to Fiji/US College ball. Then came back to NZ at ~ 20yo to play rugby in Taranaki.

              Definite poach, but not as an established rugby "star".

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              @Tim yeah true he's no Bundee...

              At least if he doesn't cut it with the AB's he would at least be able to stand down and have a crack with Fiji in 3 years time.

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                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-ian-foster-explains-squad-selections-as-all-blacks-chase-power-and-tempo/UVB2VB33GWHRALK5YUWM4JFJGA/

                Foster explained Luke Jacobson was a victim of being forced to play all three loose forward roles and that the All Blacks are keen to use Dalton Papalii and Tupou Vaa'i as blindside options which paved the way for Sowakula's maiden call-up.

                "Pita Gus gives us that six-eight type role. He's a big man, he carries hard, we think there's more to his game at the contact than perhaps he's shown. He can offload and step and we'd like to see more of that, but it's a chance to put a big man into that space and test him at that next level."

                "Ireland are a very strong set piece team and if you look at our looseheads with George Bower and Aidan they're relatively new and that probably swung it around for Karl. He's our strongest loosehead scrummager and we think for right now it's the best way to support the other two players.

                "We think Ethan can get fitter and there's more to him about getting up off the ground and getting involved. We've got a very high regard for him but we'll put a plan in place for him to come back."

                That wasn't the only message Foster sent. As he attempts to juggle the need to deliver immediate results following two successive losses to Ireland and France while blooding players with a view to next year's World Cup, Foster strongly intimated several incumbents were on notice.

                "When you inject a bit of talent that has a significant impact on others in the group. Sometimes it's a matter of relying on a new energy to bring a bit more from the players who have been there a while. The next three or four months are going to be vital for some players to make sure they're progressing because there's still two more squads to be named this year."

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                  8 players in the squad have played provincial for Taranaki, must be some sorta record to have 7 Bulls involved in the ABs at once

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                  • F Frye

                    Karl T is a real interesting selection.

                    Maybe an indicator of how under pressure the selectors are feeling. Which they should be — good — but still a selection that looks shortsighted when we have a world cup only a year away. You'd think they should really be investing in De Groot or Hodgman as much as possible. It suggests they are putting a lot of faith in Moody making a full recovery which looks a pretty foolish move when he's been as wracked with injury as he has been. He'll be 35 by kickoff next year. Doesn't matter how willing the mind is if his body is failing him.

                    Hopefully Ross gets a shot and we get to see what he's made of. And surely Karl doesn't make the rugby championship squad, that would be a joke.

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                    @Frye de Groot got the reality check he needed. He's 23 so fitness should not be an issue, and it's not up to the AB coaches to improve it within the AB camp.

                    Karl's selection is an entirely different argument, given he is leaving.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Cane maybe captain, but is recovering from injury … again.

                      Does anyone think he will play better than Papalii would in this series?

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Cane maybe captain, but is recovering from injury … again.

                      Does anyone think he will play better than Papalii would in this series?

                      Hard to say. Cane has risen to the test occasion in the past when his Super form has been okay-ish. He still has one of the best shoulders going around and unless he is under a fitness cloud I expect him to start and get the boys going.

                      Some might say I’m a fatalist for this, but I’m starting to get excited for this genuine test series and seeing the ABs in action again. I quite like the squad. Plus playing Ireland will be different and not same-same 4Ns stuff.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Cane maybe captain, but is recovering from injury … again.

                        Does anyone think he will play better than Papalii would in this series?

                        Hard to say. Cane has risen to the test occasion in the past when his Super form has been okay-ish. He still has one of the best shoulders going around and unless he is under a fitness cloud I expect him to start and get the boys going.

                        Some might say I’m a fatalist for this, but I’m starting to get excited for this genuine test series and seeing the ABs in action again. I quite like the squad. Plus playing Ireland will be different and not same-same 4Ns stuff.

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                        I’m starting to get excited for this genuine test series

                        Definitely. I'm expecting this series to be 2-1, and could easily go in either direction.

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                          Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

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                          • number9N number9

                            Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

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                            @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

                            Is that bold?

                            If we took a straw poll, wouldn't the bold prediction be that we'll win it?

                            I don't have much hope, as I don't think this team is better (in any real sense) than 2019.

                            In 2015, I was confident but even then we only got past SA by two points.

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                            • number9N number9

                              Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

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                              @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

                              I'm not sure Razor would select Hodgemins either

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                                Haven’t read the thread yet, but PGS - WTF. He’d already gone well off the boil this season before the abortion that was his 80 minutes on Friday.

                                MMT must be eyeing up the Samoan squad after seeing that selection.

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                                • number9N number9

                                  Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

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                                  @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

                                  The field is still favourites against the All Blacks so hardly that bold!

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    Haven’t read the thread yet, but PGS - WTF. He’d already gone well off the boil this season before the abortion that was his 80 minutes on Friday.

                                    MMT must be eyeing up the Samoan squad after seeing that selection.

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                                    @Nepia Yep, we may lose him if he isn't selected for the EOYT. I hope they have at least talked to him and given him some work-ons.

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                                    • WingerW Winger

                                      Highlander 2
                                      Canes 3
                                      Chiefs 9
                                      Crusaders 10
                                      Blues 11

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                                      @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Highlander 2
                                      Canes 3
                                      Chiefs 9
                                      Crusaders 10
                                      Blues 11

                                      Has to be a first for the All Blacks in the pro era that only 2 players selected from the one franchise and they both play the same position.

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                                      • number9N number9

                                        Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

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                                        @number9 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Well here is a bold prediction, with the idiot that Foster is, with this forward pack the AB's will not win the World Cup. Bring on Razor, sack this clown.

                                        Yawn.
                                        You forgot to mention how fat he is.

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                                          I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!

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