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All Blacks 2022

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    Haven’t read the thread yet, but PGS - WTF. He’d already gone well off the boil this season before the abortion that was his 80 minutes on Friday.

    MMT must be eyeing up the Samoan squad after seeing that selection.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

    Haven’t read the thread yet, but PGS - WTF. He’d already gone well off the boil this season before the abortion that was his 80 minutes on Friday.

    MMT must be eyeing up the Samoan squad after seeing that selection.

    That was my thought too ie, PGS had faded. The selectors must’ve thought he was overworked as the primary ball carrier at the Chiefs. I guess if they were ever going to try him now is the time, still some time before RWC and a spot opening up with Blackadder’s injury.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Stag said in All Blacks 2022:

      @KiwiMurph obviously Blackadder would have been there, Luke Jacobson should be there and Cullen Grace absolutely should be there

      I agree. Not taking anything away from Sowakula but Jacobson is the incumbent plus a like for like swap with Blackadder. Selectors probably thought Papali’i could play all 3 back row spots as well meaning they could bet on the upside of Sowakula.

      Cullen gives you a tall 8/6 which they don’t really have. You’d have to shift Va’ai there to give the necessary size. I would love to see a Robinson/Grace type loosie in there but I think at some stage they had to try Sowakula to see if he’s test match material. If not now when?

      Grace is shorter than PGS and Akira. NB: if wiki is to be believed.

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      @Nepia that would make his lineout prowess over those two even more impressive then

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        Showing my bias here but Robinson has to be close now showing he can adequately cover lock in Super Rugby. We don’t have another player like him - 1.98cm tall, big engine, good over ball etc.

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        • F Frank

          I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!

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          @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

          I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!

          If they do start Beaudy, I reckon RTS is almost as good a chance of starting as any of the other three midfielders for that combinations reason. If he has a good game this coming weekend, that will help.

          He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

          Personally, I'd pick Jack Goodhue at 12, but he's really been selected as a centre so maybe they'll ask him to specialize..

          RTS at 12 with Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

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          • StagS Stag

            @Nepia that would make his lineout prowess over those two even more impressive then

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            @Stag said in All Blacks 2022:

            @Nepia that would make his lineout prowess over those two even more impressive then

            I’m not sure being used more correlates with prowess. Both Akira and the luckiest man in NZ rugby have been used as targets successfully as well, even if not as frequently.

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            • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

              Showing my bias here but Robinson has to be close now showing he can adequately cover lock in Super Rugby. We don’t have another player like him - 1.98cm tall, big engine, good over ball etc.

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              @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

              Showing my bias here but Robinson has to be close now showing he can adequately cover lock in Super Rugby. We don’t have another player like him - 1.98cm tall, big engine, good over ball etc.

              Fully agree and I was one of his early detractors when he was a looser version than now. He’s another in the long line of should have been there over PGS.

              TBF, he probably missed out due to the fact Christie has already got the Ginga quota sewn up. (Auto correct just changed ginga to Bunga - so it allows me to be racist but not hairest. 😱)

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                Foster said they're keen to use Papalii on the blindside, I bet that was Schmidt's idea, not his... Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7, which is a pretty big factor in the ABs playing a fast paced game.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Stag said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Victor-Meldrew Cane is fine in the squad but he is still not a captains arsehole. That’s the big problem here.

                  For most of last year we had the (South Island) peoples captain in there and the results weren’t spectacular. I think as long as the senior players pull together it probably doesn’t matter which of the Sam’s are captain, and Dalton can have an apprenticeship and not be rushed in too early.

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                  @Nepia Canes captains record at all levels is terrible, that’s the big difference.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                    I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!

                    If they do start Beaudy, I reckon RTS is almost as good a chance of starting as any of the other three midfielders for that combinations reason. If he has a good game this coming weekend, that will help.

                    He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

                    Personally, I'd pick Jack Goodhue at 12, but he's really been selected as a centre so maybe they'll ask him to specialize..

                    RTS at 12 with Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

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                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

                    Not sure Jack offers anything off the bench.

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                    • TheMojomanT TheMojoman

                      Showing my bias here but Robinson has to be close now showing he can adequately cover lock in Super Rugby. We don’t have another player like him - 1.98cm tall, big engine, good over ball etc.

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                      @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Showing my bias here but Robinson has to be close now showing he can adequately cover lock in Super Rugby. We don’t have another player like him - 1.98cm tall, big engine, good over ball etc.

                      Its pretty obvious to me, he is not going to get selected as a loose forward. Robinson needs to put on 5-10kg and start playing at lock for Northland and the Blues to make the squad.

                      And I have to admit having him at lock a bit bigger would be a huge asset to any team.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                        You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                        He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                        I know which of these looks better

                        alt text

                        alt text

                        Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

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                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                        You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                        He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                        I know which of these looks better

                        alt text

                        alt text

                        Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

                        Do you really want me to post the “Hawkes Bay look”?

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                          You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                          He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                          I know which of these looks better

                          alt text

                          alt text

                          Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

                          Do you really want me to post the “Hawkes Bay look”?

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                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                          You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                          He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                          I know which of these looks better

                          alt text

                          alt text

                          Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

                          Do you really want me to post the “Hawkes Bay look”?

                          Look I can’t help what happens in Napier, Waipuk, and Dannevirke - they’re collectively known as the Counties-M of The Bay. 😏

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                          • chimoausC chimoaus

                            @TheMojoman said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Showing my bias here but Robinson has to be close now showing he can adequately cover lock in Super Rugby. We don’t have another player like him - 1.98cm tall, big engine, good over ball etc.

                            Its pretty obvious to me, he is not going to get selected as a loose forward. Robinson needs to put on 5-10kg and start playing at lock for Northland and the Blues to make the squad.

                            And I have to admit having him at lock a bit bigger would be a huge asset to any team.

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                            @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Robinson needs to put on 5-10kg and start playing at lock for Northland and the Blues to make the squad.

                            Not sure if it is physically possible for him, but a bigger Tom Robinson with his current workrate would be a shoe-in for the starting 15.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                              I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!

                              If they do start Beaudy, I reckon RTS is almost as good a chance of starting as any of the other three midfielders for that combinations reason. If he has a good game this coming weekend, that will help.

                              He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

                              Personally, I'd pick Jack Goodhue at 12, but he's really been selected as a centre so maybe they'll ask him to specialize..

                              RTS at 12 with Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

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                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                              He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

                              Personally, I'd pick Jack Goodhue at 12, but he's really been selected as a centre so maybe they'll ask him to specialize..

                              RTS at 12 with Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

                              RTS is a big risk against the Irish midfield. Might come off, might wreck his career. Don't think the coaches will throw him in the deep end

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2022:

                                I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!

                                If they do start Beaudy, I reckon RTS is almost as good a chance of starting as any of the other three midfielders for that combinations reason. If he has a good game this coming weekend, that will help.

                                He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

                                Personally, I'd pick Jack Goodhue at 12, but he's really been selected as a centre so maybe they'll ask him to specialize..

                                RTS at 12 with Jack on the bench wouldn't be bad.

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                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                If they do start Beaudy, I reckon RTS is almost as good a chance of starting as any of the other three midfielders for that combinations reason. If he has a good game this coming weekend, that will help.
                                He's a bit more experienced than your average newbie, so they won't be concerned about him being overawed.

                                Good point and.......1st test is at Eden Park.

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                                • F Frank

                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Robinson needs to put on 5-10kg and start playing at lock for Northland and the Blues to make the squad.

                                  Not sure if it is physically possible for him, but a bigger Tom Robinson with his current workrate would be a shoe-in for the starting 15.

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                                  @Frank he doesnt look like he carries much fat, so I reckon he could put on 5 easily without compromising much to his game

                                  That said, I think he will end up as one of those unlucky guys that just never quite makes it, without a doubt good enough, just in such a competitive position and unlucky timing (think if he hadnt been injured in 2020? he'd have made it)

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    https://fb.watch/dCpgf81bj8/

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    https://fb.watch/dCpgf81bj8/

                                    Was Papalii nursing the appendix area as he leaned forward to congratulate him?

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Cane maybe captain, but is recovering from injury … again.

                                      Does anyone think he will play better than Papalii would in this series?

                                      That's tricky one for Foster, isn't it? A fit Sam Cane for me every time and we seem to play better when he's on the field - but the key word is "fit".

                                      There must be a thought in Foster's mind that he may have to drop his Captain if his injuries continues. Tough on Sam & a tough decision.

                                      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

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                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                                      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                                        You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                                        He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                                        I know which of these looks better

                                        alt text

                                        alt text

                                        Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

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                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                                        You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                                        He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                                        I know which of these looks better

                                        alt text

                                        alt text

                                        Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

                                        I think you meant to say perfect example of a player not good enough for the ABs below one who earned an ABs spot. There's something in that mullay...

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                                          You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                                          He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                                          I know which of these looks better

                                          alt text

                                          alt text

                                          Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

                                          I think you meant to say perfect example of a player not good enough for the ABs below one who earned an ABs spot. There's something in that mullay...

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Happy for Folau! nothing else to really add

                                          You do realise he needs to get a haircut? That stupid shit is OK at ITM and Super for comedy value but he has to wear the black jersey now

                                          He's hardly the only one with a mullet. The blond noodles have long gone.

                                          I know which of these looks better

                                          alt text

                                          alt text

                                          Perfect illustration of what happens when a good Hastings Boys fellow gets corrupted in the South Island.

                                          I think you meant to say perfect example of a player not good enough for the ABs below one who earned an ABs spot. There's something in that mullay...

                                          Well he was 17 at the time. Now he’s an adult he’s the Bay’s most recent AB so I’m happy about that. And we were more than happy to lend his Bay developed expertise to the Highlanders too.

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