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  • MN5M MN5

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

    Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

    🤣

    Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

    He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.

    As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.

    Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.

    Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7

    If Mauger was playing touch Rugby he certainly stopped Mortlock with some authority there. Great D !

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    @MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.

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    • TimT Tim

      https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1536456945850195968?s=20&t=SGGzOqfrd_YHuv2RxvbXGg

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      @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

      https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1536456945850195968?s=20&t=SGGzOqfrd_YHuv2RxvbXGg

      From this interview it sounds like Karl Tu'inukuafe will be in the 4N squad too.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader and how good Ali Williams?!!

        He had his moments.

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

        @ACT-Crusader and how good Ali Williams?!!

        He had his moments.

        Great use of the old ‘knee on the ground’ move by Ali to get that ball 😉

        Rodders clearing kick too was not bad either.

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        • TimT Tim

          @MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.

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          @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

          @MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.

          He was just keeping the jersey warm til Nonu got awesome

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          • TimT Tim

            @MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

            @MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.

            I’m guessing he rests easy in the knowledge that he was a better rugby player than Luke MacAllister ever was.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Tim said in All Blacks 2022:

              @MN5 Amazing that he played test rugby with so many obvious deficiencies.

              I’m guessing he rests easy in the knowledge that he was a better rugby player than Luke MacAllister ever was.

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              @ACT-Crusader Only in your wildest fantasies.

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              • WingerW Winger

                Highlander 2
                Canes 3
                Chiefs 9
                Crusaders 10
                Blues 12

                I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

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                #2775

                @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                Highlander 2
                Canes 3
                Chiefs 9
                Crusaders 10
                Blues 12

                I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                Feels like way too many Chiefs TBH. Fucking biased Foster.

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                  anyone else kind of excited about this years international games...prepared to be disappointed with the same issues...but i honestly dont know where we stack up against the rest of the world and so its actually a little exciting to find out

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

                    🤣

                    Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

                    He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.

                    As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.

                    Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.

                    Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7

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                    #2777

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

                    🤣

                    Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

                    He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.

                    As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.

                    Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.

                    Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7

                    Legend

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                      Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

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                      #2778

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                      Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                      Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                      Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

                      I think that cow bell noise was coming from Waikato and nowhere else

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                        Do we know if Ireland are sending a full strength team?

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Bones I guess the issue is, this coaching group do not seem like they can get the best out of thier players, and PGS looks like his best was 6+ weeks ago, however as you say, he does have alot of really good attributes and if they can get those out of him he looks a real weapon....

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                          @taniwharugby listened to the Breakdown, I heard it is a reputable as the fern, and they mentioned PGS played a lot of minutes since Cane, Jacobson and others were injured. My have just been burned out and given a couple of weeks off we might see better things from him.

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                          • broughieB broughie

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                            Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                            Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

                            I think that cow bell noise was coming from Waikato and nowhere else

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                            nzzp
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                            @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                            Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                            Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

                            I think that cow bell noise was coming from Waikato and nowhere else

                            Mate, I'm from Auckland! I have no love for Waikato ... but he was a hell of a player

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @broughie said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Should have dropped McCaw too with all those injuries he used to get. And Papalii? appendicitis! Who the fuck gets that these days? Get rid of him.

                              Different situation. No-one was challenging McCaw for his AB slot. If Sam's fitness and its impact on the AB captaincy hasn't crossed management's mind, then they are even worse than their detractors claim

                              Marty Holah was neck and neck with him early on as I recall, through to about 04 or so

                              I think that cow bell noise was coming from Waikato and nowhere else

                              Mate, I'm from Auckland! I have no love for Waikato ... but he was a hell of a player

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                              @nzzp yes he was but Richie was the package deal. You must have relatives there :-).

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                              • WingerW Winger

                                Highlander 2
                                Canes 3
                                Chiefs 9
                                Crusaders 10
                                Blues 12

                                I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

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                                @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Highlander 2
                                Canes 3
                                Chiefs 9
                                Crusaders 10
                                Blues 12

                                I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                                I hope Fozzie takes into account that all those Blues boys aren't going to have Leon's big brain guiding them in the All Blacks.

                                Significant risk they'll revert to type and play like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz out there! 🙂

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Highlander 2
                                  Canes 3
                                  Chiefs 9
                                  Crusaders 10
                                  Blues 12

                                  I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                                  I hope Fozzie takes into account that all those Blues boys aren't going to have Leon's big brain guiding them in the All Blacks.

                                  Significant risk they'll revert to type and play like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz out there! 🙂

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  Highlander 2
                                  Canes 3
                                  Chiefs 9
                                  Crusaders 10
                                  Blues 12

                                  I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                                  I hope Fozzie takes into account that all those Blues boys aren't going to have Leon's big brain guiding them in the All Blacks.

                                  Significant risk they'll revert to type and play like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz out there! 🙂

                                  don't worry, we'll have Schmidt

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Highlander 2
                                    Canes 3
                                    Chiefs 9
                                    Crusaders 10
                                    Blues 12

                                    I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                                    I hope Fozzie takes into account that all those Blues boys aren't going to have Leon's big brain guiding them in the All Blacks.

                                    Significant risk they'll revert to type and play like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz out there! 🙂

                                    don't worry, we'll have Schmidt

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                                    #2785

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Highlander 2
                                    Canes 3
                                    Chiefs 9
                                    Crusaders 10
                                    Blues 12

                                    I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                                    I hope Fozzie takes into account that all those Blues boys aren't going to have Leon's big brain guiding them in the All Blacks.

                                    Significant risk they'll revert to type and play like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz out there! 🙂

                                    don't worry, we'll have Schmidt

                                    No we won't, not for a few months yet

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Winger said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Highlander 2
                                      Canes 3
                                      Chiefs 9
                                      Crusaders 10
                                      Blues 12

                                      I made a mistake below. Blues have 12 ABs (not 11) 6 forwards and 6 backs

                                      I hope Fozzie takes into account that all those Blues boys aren't going to have Leon's big brain guiding them in the All Blacks.

                                      Significant risk they'll revert to type and play like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz out there! 🙂

                                      don't worry, we'll have Schmidt

                                      No we won't, not for a few months yet

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                                      @Machpants am sure they'll still remember what they have learnt from him at the Blues and manage to retain it without needing to re-learn it when he joins the ABs

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                                      • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

                                        🤣

                                        Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

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                                        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

                                        🤣

                                        Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

                                        Hahaha, good one Murray Dickhead.... yeah I've never played rugby and I'm on an array of drugs - yet my insight into rugby, players and coaching is still light years beyond your basic, clichéd dross. That must be embarrassing.

                                        Papalii is quicker than Cane, sharpen up.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

                                          🤣

                                          Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

                                          He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.

                                          As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.

                                          Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.

                                          Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

                                          🤣

                                          Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

                                          He's 5cm taller than McCaw was and 5 kg heavier. Sounds about right for a good 7 to me.

                                          As for speed, the best skill of a 7 is smart running lines and foresight. DP is very good at taking the shortest route to a breakdown or link that hasn't happened yet. Again a skill the great one had.

                                          Yep One of Ritchies great strengths running the best lines to support the ball carrier, hit the ruck or make the tackle,He had great vision for a 7.As he said once in an interview its all about getting to the target as quick as he could using the right lines and angles not really pace but smarts.

                                          Never gets old. Watch that young fella in 7

                                          Two plays there that perfectly encapsulate each player's international career - McCaw with the fantastic cover defence, tackle and steal, and Mauger patting Mortlock on the back as he makes his line break.

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