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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    Not total whining negative troll drivel, for once

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300612927/all-blacks-squad-time-for-a-dithering-ian-foster-to-make-the-big-calls

    Bugger. You got me.

    It was all whining negative troll drivel.

    Next thing he'll be telling us how Perofeta's kicking is better because he just swings his leg in a smooth arc and that Reiko Ioane is faster than Laulala because he is lighter.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    Not total whining negative troll drivel, for once

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/300612927/all-blacks-squad-time-for-a-dithering-ian-foster-to-make-the-big-calls

    Bugger. You got me.

    It was all whining negative troll drivel.

    Next thing he'll be telling us how Perofeta's kicking is better because he just swings his leg in a smooth arc and that Reiko Ioane is faster than Laulala because he is lighter.

    Last line is positive

    Surely Foster won’t repeat such a glaring mistake.

    In that he actually beleives that Foster can learn! 😜

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    • BonesB Bones

      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

      Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

      🤣

      Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

      Hahaha, good one Murray Dickhead.... yeah I've never played rugby and I'm on an array of drugs - yet my insight into rugby, players and coaching is still light years beyond your basic, clichéd dross. That must be embarrassing.

      Papalii is quicker than Cane, sharpen up.

      You're a clown, as usual logic goes straight out the window with you - Cane is obviously the faster of the two, also he's 103kg, Whereas Papalii is 113kg.

      Ohhhh shit, yeah bang goes my logic eh... brought down by the amazing logic of "this one's heavier so it must be slower"! 🤣

      That word in bold will make it easy for you to show us the obvious examples. Chop chop Muzza.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

      Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

      🤣

      Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

      Hahaha, good one Murray Dickhead.... yeah I've never played rugby and I'm on an array of drugs - yet my insight into rugby, players and coaching is still light years beyond your basic, clichéd dross. That must be embarrassing.

      Papalii is quicker than Cane, sharpen up.

      You're a clown, as usual logic goes straight out the window with you - Cane is obviously the faster of the two, also he's 103kg, Whereas Papalii is 113kg.

      Ohhhh shit, yeah bang goes my logic eh... brought down by the amazing logic of "this one's heavier so it must be slower"! 🤣

      That word in bold will make it easy for you to show us the obvious examples. Chop chop Muzza.

      Can you still order bio mags these days ?

      His endorsements were awesome

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

        🤣

        Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

        Hahaha, good one Murray Dickhead.... yeah I've never played rugby and I'm on an array of drugs - yet my insight into rugby, players and coaching is still light years beyond your basic, clichéd dross. That must be embarrassing.

        Papalii is quicker than Cane, sharpen up.

        You're a clown, as usual logic goes straight out the window with you - Cane is obviously the faster of the two, also he's 103kg, Whereas Papalii is 113kg.

        Ohhhh shit, yeah bang goes my logic eh... brought down by the amazing logic of "this one's heavier so it must be slower"! 🤣

        That word in bold will make it easy for you to show us the obvious examples. Chop chop Muzza.

        Can you still order bio mags these days ?

        His endorsements were awesome

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        #2900

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

        Papallii has never had the pace to be a link player at 7

        🤣

        Are you on drugs ? ...do you even realize a 7 should be a fetcher, an openside has to have the pace to link up with the backs, especially with the speed the ABs play, that isn't Papalii, he's too slow for the position & weighs about 115kg, which is why he's better suited to 6 or 8.

        Hahaha, good one Murray Dickhead.... yeah I've never played rugby and I'm on an array of drugs - yet my insight into rugby, players and coaching is still light years beyond your basic, clichéd dross. That must be embarrassing.

        Papalii is quicker than Cane, sharpen up.

        You're a clown, as usual logic goes straight out the window with you - Cane is obviously the faster of the two, also he's 103kg, Whereas Papalii is 113kg.

        Ohhhh shit, yeah bang goes my logic eh... brought down by the amazing logic of "this one's heavier so it must be slower"! 🤣

        That word in bold will make it easy for you to show us the obvious examples. Chop chop Muzza.

        Can you still order bio mags these days ?

        His endorsements were awesome

        Yeah seems like it probably got banned judging by how it effects people's heads.

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          Hilarious ! didn't realize there were so many five year olds on here... some of you just can't get past me having a crack at some of you when I first joined, grow a pair.

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            Bones
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            No wonder biomag worked so well on irony man.

            Can't wait to tell all the fellas down the club that I'm heavier and faster than I'm a freak athlete. It's science!

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              https://media2.giphy.com/media/eiwvHQUr1efICXF9sv/giphy.gif

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              • BonesB Bones

                No wonder biomag worked so well on irony man.

                Can't wait to tell all the fellas down the club that I'm heavier and faster than I'm a freak athlete. It's science!

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                No wonder biomag worked so well on irony man.

                Can't wait to tell all the fellas down the club that I'm heavier and faster than I'm a freak athlete. It's science!

                Sounds to me like the All Blacks need to take a leaf out of the 1905 invincibles. Pretty sure none of those speed freaks would have weighed over 90kg, including the forwards !

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Take Sam Cane. He was 101kg when he made his test début as a 20-year-old in June 2012. He's now 109kg - almost 10 per heavier in five years

                  fuck, imagine how slow he must have got

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Take Sam Cane. He was 101kg when he made his test début as a 20-year-old in June 2012. He's now 109kg - almost 10 per heavier in five years

                  fuck, imagine how slow he must have got

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                    We're in position where we've got too many players in their early 30's, especially in the forwards... it's up to to coach to know when to drop some of the older players, also to know when to feed one or two new players into the team, otherwise we will have a lot of players retiring about the same time, with us ending up with a pretty inexperienced team.

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                    • get stuffedG get stuffed

                      We're in position where we've got too many players in their early 30's, especially in the forwards... it's up to to coach to know when to drop some of the older players, also to know when to feed one or two new players into the team, otherwise we will have a lot of players retiring about the same time, with us ending up with a pretty inexperienced team.

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                      @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                      it's up to to coach to know when to drop some of the older players, also to know when to feed one or two new players into the team

                      People would pay tens of thousands for this kind of unknown revelation bro. You're in the wrong game.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                        it's up to to coach to know when to drop some of the older players, also to know when to feed one or two new players into the team

                        People would pay tens of thousands for this kind of unknown revelation bro. You're in the wrong game.

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                        #2908

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                        it's up to to coach to know when to drop some of the older players, also to know when to feed one or two new players into the team

                        People would pay tens of thousands for this kind of unknown revelation bro. You're in the wrong game.

                        I'll give you my bank account number & you can send me some of those ten of thousands then :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: unfortunately all coaches tend to be too bloody loyal to players, so keep them on well past their best.

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                          After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

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                            @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                            After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                            I must be on your ignore list!

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                            • M Machpants

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                              After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                              I must be on your ignore list!

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                              After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                              I must be on your ignore list!

                              Your abilities are no match for the power of the daft side,

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Frank he doesnt look like he carries much fat, so I reckon he could put on 5 easily without compromising much to his game

                                That said, I think he will end up as one of those unlucky guys that just never quite makes it, without a doubt good enough, just in such a competitive position and unlucky timing (think if he hadnt been injured in 2020? he'd have made it)

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Frank he doesnt look like he carries much fat, so I reckon he could put on 5 easily without compromising much to his game

                                That said, I think he will end up as one of those unlucky guys that just never quite makes it, without a doubt good enough, just in such a competitive position and unlucky timing (think if he hadnt been injured in 2020? he'd have made it)

                                He is probably an injury away. But it’s a difficult position when young players have been selected ahead of him now. Still hope he makes it.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                                  I must be on your ignore list!

                                  Your abilities are no match for the power of the daft side,

                                  get stuffedG Offline
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                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                                  I must be on your ignore list!

                                  Your abilities are no match for the power of the daft side,

                                  I'll give you a debate on rugby & we will soon see who ends up on the daft side... here's a hint, it won't be me.

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                                  • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                    Hilarious ! didn't realize there were so many five year olds on here... some of you just can't get past me having a crack at some of you when I first joined, grow a pair.

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                                    @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    Hilarious ! didn't realize there were so many five year olds on here... some of you just can't get past me having a crack at some of you when I first joined, grow a pair.

                                    We are all bitchy Polish chicks mate, but by christ we are good looking.

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                                      Honest question, what do we want from the AB's in 2022/23? How do they evolve to match the strengths of the NH teams and SA. How do we combat the rush defence, low error rates and suffocating play that is so effective against us.

                                      I simply cannot see how the Foster led 2019-2021 ABs can magically change without some fundamental changes.

                                      I would love to hear from the strategists on the Fern of what gameplan and players can help us climb back to the top.

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                                      • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                                        I must be on your ignore list!

                                        Your abilities are no match for the power of the daft side,

                                        I'll give you a debate on rugby & we will soon see who ends up on the daft side... here's a hint, it won't be me.

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                                        @NZbloke said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        After around a quarter of a century on the Fern I don't think I've ever seem so many gems of wisdom from one poster.

                                        I must be on your ignore list!

                                        Your abilities are no match for the power of the daft side,

                                        I'll give you a debate on rugby & we will soon see who ends up on the daft side... here's a hint, it won't be me.

                                        I'm really interested in the science tho.

                                        Should we be looking for halfbacks with bigger hands because it means they can pass better, or will the extra weight slow them down too much?

                                        What about kickers with bigger eyes so they can see the posts better?

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                                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                                          Honest question, what do we want from the AB's in 2022/23? How do they evolve to match the strengths of the NH teams and SA. How do we combat the rush defence, low error rates and suffocating play that is so effective against us.

                                          I simply cannot see how the Foster led 2019-2021 ABs can magically change without some fundamental changes.

                                          I would love to hear from the strategists on the Fern of what gameplan and players can help us climb back to the top.

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                                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          Honest question, what do we want from the AB's in 2022/23? How do they evolve to match the strengths of the NH teams and SA. How do we combat the rush defence, low error rates and suffocating play that is so effective against us.

                                          I simply cannot see how the Foster led 2019-2021 ABs can magically change without some fundamental changes.

                                          I would love to hear from the strategists on the Fern of what gameplan and players can help us climb back to the top.

                                          Honestly I just want them to simplify the gameplan, we have so much talent in the backline that if our forwards can gain any sort of parity not many teams will be able to stay with us. That means in the early exchanges we play a lot tighter, keep ball in hand and use some of our dominant runners like Samisoni and Akira in close to get a bit of go forward. We just so often play headless chicken rugby because the players appear to be told to play a "fast game" which involves slinging it wide and running it from stupid places, putting ourselves under pressure and leading to a high error rate. The idea is to run opposition teams off their feet but it just doesn't work anymore, the fitness and defensive structures of the top sides is too good now for that shit.

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