All Blacks 2022
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@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we are knocked out in the quarters to be honest. That’s not a criticism of anyone just a fact of the draw and the quality of the opposition.
Give it a rest with the “Foster’s a moron” stuff. The guy may not be achieving what you would like but that doesn’t make him moronic.
By all means criticise specific aspects of poor decision making or selection but this myth, that has only grown in the off season, of the coaches having no clue at all is tiresome.
The facts are that we don’t have the world class players in numbers that we used to. A world XV would have quite light NZ participation these days.
Foster was backed to perform for a reason. You may not agree with the decision and it is easy to say that someone else would be better but stick to facts. All the things he gets (often rightly) canned for are things that he is patently aware off if you stop to observe some of what is said and done.
FFS the biggest criticism is that he isn’t getting forwards going forward yet when he selects someone like PGS because of his ability to do just that he gets canned again.
I do wonder if some should be looking in mirrors with their name calling.@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
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@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
I'm not sure what you are saying at the start of the post.
I haven't claimed that Foster and Co are doing everything well just that it is getting boring hearing this constant 'the coaches are morons' rubblish. They quite obviously know more about about how to run a test team than you or I so at least stop calling them idiots that know nothing. Is Grant Fox a moron? Because he also believes that we aren't far off what we are trying to achieve.
They are making decisions and selecting players that you may not agree with and you may prefer a different approach. Stick to that instead of the tedious name calling.
Yes, we are used to winning but it isn't a right. Other countries have improved massively and deserve their wins as well. Have we really been strategically stupid or have they been smarter? We have certainly lacked the answers at times to the things other teams have brought and need to work out how to change things on the fly (easier said than done) but you can't blame the coaches when others bring clever tactics that surprise.
There's a hell of a lot that goes on in sports teams that us punters don't know about. It's fun to feel involved and comment but at times the talk here drops to some pretty base levels -
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
We will not win the World Cup with Foster as the head coach. The guy is a complete moron, we won't make the final, knocked out in the semis.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we are knocked out in the quarters to be honest. That’s not a criticism of anyone just a fact of the draw and the quality of the opposition.
Give it a rest with the “Foster’s a moron” stuff. The guy may not be achieving what you would like but that doesn’t make him moronic.
By all means criticise specific aspects of poor decision making or selection but this myth, that has only grown in the off season, of the coaches having no clue at all is tiresome.
The facts are that we don’t have the world class players in numbers that we used to. A world XV would have quite light NZ participation these days.
Foster was backed to perform for a reason. You may not agree with the decision and it is easy to say that someone else would be better but stick to facts. All the things he gets (often rightly) canned for are things that he is patently aware off if you stop to observe some of what is said and done.
FFS the biggest criticism is that he isn’t getting forwards going forward yet when he selects someone like PGS because of his ability to do just that he gets canned again.
I do wonder if some should be looking in mirrors with their name calling.@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
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@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
See, this is the kind of odd comment that I'm talking about. What do you or I know about the players needs and how to get the best out of them? Do we know what goes on in camp? How players are treated or how expectations are communicated? I certainly don't.
It just smacks of 'back in my day' type rubbish.
One of the keys to the recent golden era was the change in treatment of players, leadership and communication. I doubt very much that going back to Laurie and Grizz would do anything except appease talkback callers for a moment of two. -
@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial He obviously is not a moron but he does not create any confidence in how our team will perform. Probably a nice guy but perhaps too nice and we need a ball buster in there. Perhaps the ABs need a stint at the Roach Motel with an occasional piece of raw meat thrown their way. Is it just me or are the ABs suffering from corporate niceness? Too much feel good moments and interactions?
See, this is the kind of odd comment that I'm talking about. What do you or I know about the players needs and how to get the best out of them? Do we know what goes on in camp? How players are treated or how expectations are communicated? I certainly don't.
It just smacks of 'back in my day' type rubbish.
One of the keys to the recent golden era was the change in treatment of players, leadership and communication. I doubt very much that going back to Laurie and Grizz would do anything except appease talkback callers for a moment of two.@Crucial that’s one opinion. Of course we don’t know what happens behind the scene but you don’t always have to be on the inside to know that things are not working right. I don’t have to work for Joe Biden to know he a complete buffoon. I judge him by his results. Same with Fosters ABs. Hope he proves me wrong.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
By not replacing Lord, perhaps Foster has decided it's an opportunity to give Vaa'i more game time? Don't forget he's been slagged off for not giving in-form players enough game time or not throwing them in the deep end
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2022:
Not replacing Lord is just stupid, give someone time in the environment that could be there next year. If I was Lord I would wonder if there was any point to me being there if they not replacing me. Robinson is the clear replacement as someone who has the skillset and would benefit from time. Robinson feels like Akira with shag to me.
By not replacing Lord, perhaps Foster has decided it's an opportunity to give Vaa'i more game time? Don't forget he's been slagged off for not giving in-form players enough game time or not throwing them in the deep end
I think if Foster found a cure for cancer he’d be slagged off for not finding a cure for another illness….
Not replacing an injured player before a series starts isn’t a new thing. Five locks selected for a three test series seemed a little on the generous side any way.
Lord was in the squad last year and I guess they wanted to give him every opportunity pending further tests/assessments.
If we need additional cover for the RC then there are a couple of decent locks in the Maori squad that would be match fit.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they were waiting to see who pulls up healthy following the final before naming another person.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
I wouldn't be surprised if they were waiting to see who pulls up healthy following the final before naming another person.
The final and the Maori match too
They have enough for the Irish series, just call up someone else for the Championship squad
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I just want to see a firm concept or philosophy of play, attention to detail in the skills department, and relatively credible player selection. We just seemed devoid of ideas at crucial times last year
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
attention to detail in the skills department
But again, how do you know that isn't there?
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
attention to detail in the skills department
But again, how do you know that isn't there?
I'm talking about what I see on the field. It is possible the players aren't executing what they have been instructed to do
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@Crucial no mate that is a criticism of the Coaching staff. This is the All Blacks we are used to winning, we have that culture. Under Foster we have been strategically stupid. Look at what Leon has done with the Blues, with a couple of personnel changes and better coaching he turned the team around. The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
The Blues improves each year, with Foster the ABs have gone backwards over the last 2 seasons.
We've have been going backwards since 2016-7 - long before Foster took over. There's a variety of reasons for that decline , but to blame it all on one man just isn't really a valid argument.
Yeah he's done some dumb stuff but he's also done some pretty good stuff as well. Just hope we see less of the former and more of the latter this year.
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Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
The non selected players that some considered should have been
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
The non selected players that some considered should have been
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
The non selected players that some considered should have been
Ah gotcha. Thank God for the SR heroes like havili and mounga, they'll bring to tough physical test matches
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Real issues at tighthead.
Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
If that's auto replace at work that's genius.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
If that's auto replace at work that's genius.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Well the Blues are proving that Foster is a selecting genius tonight.(apart from Christie)
So who shows foodies genius?
If that's auto replace at work that's genius.
It was, I saw it, and left it. Well done GBoard
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Real issues at tighthead.
Would be seriously looking at giving Franks a recall. Known quantity and a reliability at set piece, tackle and breakdown. Who cares if he isn't a carrying option. At least we would have the ball to do something with.
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
Real issues at tighthead.
Ofa's scrum problems were evident again tonight, and he had Romano packing behind him. I think all 3 THs in the AB squad will have been put on notice because I don't expect them all to be at RWC 2023.
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@Crucial that’s one opinion. Of course we don’t know what happens behind the scene but you don’t always have to be on the inside to know that things are not working right. I don’t have to work for Joe Biden to know he a complete buffoon. I judge him by his results. Same with Fosters ABs. Hope he proves me wrong.
