Black Caps tour of England 2022
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
What a ridiculous scorecard. Could have really used a 4th bowler huh?
Jesus. Stead really is a boob. Although to be fair Kyle was out and Henry is not a 4th seamer
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
What a ridiculous scorecard. Could have really used a 4th bowler huh?
Jesus. Stead really is a boob. Although to be fair Kyle was out and Henry is not a 4th seamer
and CDG is out as well - who's usually our end-stopper.
We'll lose this series because our captains and bowlers can't control the run rate. That's only partly on the bowlers and selections. Scoring 850 runs and losing a test is unacceptable.
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For anyone that saw them, was there anything about Mitchell's three overs that would have meant a fourth over was a bad idea? I feel asleep at one wicket down, so missed much of the bowling, but in the scheme of things his economy rate doesn't look massively worse than anyone else...
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For anyone that saw them, was there anything about Mitchell's three overs that would have meant a fourth over was a bad idea? I feel asleep at one wicket down, so missed much of the bowling, but in the scheme of things his economy rate doesn't look massively worse than anyone else...
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
For anyone that saw them, was there anything about Mitchell's three overs that would have meant a fourth over was a bad idea? I feel asleep at one wicket down, so missed much of the bowling, but in the scheme of things his economy rate doesn't look massively worse than anyone else...
didn't see the overs, but I can suggest his back was probably sore from carrying the dead weight of the NZ top batting order
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@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
For anyone that saw them, was there anything about Mitchell's three overs that would have meant a fourth over was a bad idea? I feel asleep at one wicket down, so missed much of the bowling, but in the scheme of things his economy rate doesn't look massively worse than anyone else...
didn't see the overs, but I can suggest his back was probably sore from carrying the dead weight of the NZ top batting order
@bayimports said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
For anyone that saw them, was there anything about Mitchell's three overs that would have meant a fourth over was a bad idea? I feel asleep at one wicket down, so missed much of the bowling, but in the scheme of things his economy rate doesn't look massively worse than anyone else...
didn't see the overs, but I can suggest his back was probably sore from carrying the dead weight of the NZ top batting order
Can't be that bad, the top order are lightweights
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I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
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I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
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I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
For me this has Baz finger prints all over this, you're right at 55/6 we should have this, but then they accelerate at great pace with nothing to lose, sounds remarkably like a play out of the Bay manual and turn a would be defeat into something completely different
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So why is Bracewell when Ajaz is in the squad as well? We need attack bowlers and Ajaz can take wickets
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
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Our top order can get fucked.
6 innings batted, how many fifties across them?
Utter dogshit. We either have standard expectations or we don’t.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
Latham got a decent score for a change. But the top order have been an abject failure on the tour. We will always have the WTC win, but the golden era seems to have come and gone
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
Latham got a decent score for a change. But the top order have been an abject failure on the tour. We will always have the WTC win, but the golden era seems to have come and gone
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
Latham got a decent score for a change. But the rest of the top order have been an abject failure on the tour. We will always have the WTC win, but the golden era seems to have come and gone
Indeed.
In terms of the top order we have an all timer in KW ( who hasn’t fired )……but some of the other players we’ve lauded have come down to earth at a great rate of knots.
I don’t think Latham and Nicholls are as good as I may have thought in the past. Worryingly Conway is possibly heading this way too.
Perhaps Young is just an average run of the mill test cricketer.
If Mitchell and Blundell hadn’t taken up the slack we’d be even more royally fucked.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
Latham got a decent score for a change. But the top order have been an abject failure on the tour. We will always have the WTC win, but the golden era seems to have come and gone
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@MN5 said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of England 2022:
I wonder what influence Baz with Stokes at the helm is already having, or are we just way below par?
I say that because we've had England on the ropes a few times this series, in fact we've had them basically KO'd we were so far ahead of the game, but they've found a way to fight back and we haven't reacted to it.
55/6 should be pretty much game set and match.
Just feel like the England we knew when we last played them would have rolled over.
You mean like last year ? Me too. Cricket is a funny game.
It’s irritating when someone who was previously a pretty bog standard test batsman like Bairstow plays the house down…..
But then again perhaps that is what Mitchell is doing for us too.
He was one of the top batsmen in the world in 2016 - scoring over 1400 runs and almost averaging 60. So we know he can bat. There were a few lean years in between, but he’s found a bit of form this year scoring centuries against Oz, Windies and now us.
So were many of our guys who’ve now decided to shit the bed.
Christ it would be nice to wake up to someone other than Mitchell and Blundell at the crease. The top order thinks it’s the mid 90’s again.
Latham got a decent score for a change. But the top order have been an abject failure on the tour. We will always have the WTC win, but the golden era seems to have come and gone
I think that passed with the loss to the Bangles.
What's really annoying is the first two tests we were in a position to win and exert dominance, and we just folded. Kane's struggling, feels like Peak Kane is over - and his captaincy is steady at best. Ugh.
Like the Australia tour, injuries haven't helped, but we shouldn't have lost the second test no matter what.
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Mitchell, Blundell and Boult have fired.
Everyone else has been mediocre to dogshit.
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Blundell and Mitch Jnr keeping their heads with Root and Leach getting a bit of bite from the surface.
