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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

    Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

    Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

    Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

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    • JKJ JK

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

      Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

      Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

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      @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

      Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

      Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

      Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

        Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

        Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

        Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

        Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

        Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

        Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

        Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

          Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

          Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

          Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

          Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

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          @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

          Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

          Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

          Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

          Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

          Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

          A discussion for another thread but we have really veered into 'say it enough times and it's true' territory with the Foster period. It taints all genuine discussion and criticism.
          If I was the lone selector my squad wouldn't be much different and I can assure you that it would be wrong.

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            So far there's no new news around player availability which is hopefully a good thing.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

              Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

              Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

              Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

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              @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

              Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

              Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

              Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

              Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

              The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

                A discussion for another thread but we have really veered into 'say it enough times and it's true' territory with the Foster period. It taints all genuine discussion and criticism.
                If I was the lone selector my squad wouldn't be much different and I can assure you that it would be wrong.

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                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

                A discussion for another thread but we have really veered into 'say it enough times and it's true' territory with the Foster period. It taints all genuine discussion and criticism.
                If I was the lone selector my squad wouldn't be much different and I can assure you that it would be wrong.

                I carry my grudge back to his involvement with Hansen and some of the selections back then. Rational is not the answer @Crucial , embrace the bitterness

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                  Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                  Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                  Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                  The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                  Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                  Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                  Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                  The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

                  yeah, weren't too many surprises for e in the squad....im just concerned week to week we're going to see all the same names and the new blood wont get a proper run

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                    Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                    Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                    Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                    The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

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                    #116

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                    Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                    Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                    Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                    The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

                    The comment I responded to said squad selection.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                      Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                      Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                      Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                      The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

                      The comment I responded to said squad selection.

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                      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

                      Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

                      Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

                      Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

                      The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

                      The comment I responded to said squad selection.

                      Selection has been okay..........the ways the ABs have played, including the first ever loss to Argentina, not so much.

                      People have fuck all confidence in him because he has won fuck all has a head coach and he was preferred to a clearly more talented coach (Razor).

                      If the ABs start playing well, I'll change my mind.

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                        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                        Now it's getting serious!

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                          Crusaders first five-eighth Richie Mo'unga was also absent from Tuesday training with a tummy bug. He may recover in time but, if not, Blues playmaker Stephen Perofeta could be called onto the bench to make his test debut.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-will-jordan-the-latest-all-blacks-star-to-test-positive-for-covid-19-ahead-of-ireland-test/BZJLFNMHC4FBI6KGWFHH4IXESM/

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                            On the plus side - the stuff article says Jordan was one of only three ABs who hadn't already had covid - and they're taking extra precautions with the other two - so hopefully we're not going to lose a whole wave of players.

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                              I'd much rather see Leicester on the bench than Ennor.

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                                The players usually share a room too, so hopefully those already confirmed as positive are/were roommates.

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                                  if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

                                  Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

                                    Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

                                    Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

                                    That was announced this year, the new way to break open rush defences. Surely it will not be try to fling it wide really fast still? I mean hasn't worked since 2017

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

                                      Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.

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                                      @mariner4life just made a tricky series opener, more spicy...

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                                        Now it's getting serious!

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                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                        Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

                                        Now it's getting serious!

                                        Thought he'd be able to outpace it. Disappointed.

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                                          Have Waikato been asked to urgently arrange a match against a neighbour so that DMac can run on for 10 minutes?
                                          Surely 'special circumstances' apply when your squad is decimated.

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