Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match

[Machpants]

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

[antipodean]

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

And inaccurate.

[mariner4life]

Well that was a lot of fun. Maori deserved winners on the back of some exciting long range attack, and a couple of good goal line stands. With goal kicking it's a belting

Gee the Sullivan boys aren't bad. Ioane had some nice touches. Loved the aggression of Grace and Harmon.

Ireland won't be too dispirited. They created a shit ton of line breaks. It took the Maori 74 minutes to work out that pattern FFS. They've been reminded how lethal NZ teams are in open spaces. Their defence held up pretty well in the phase play. But I still think this Rams home how much they lack talent out wide to turn their opportunities in to points.

I was interested that it was Ireland getting hammered at ruck time by a NH ref. I've been told our ruck execution down here is all bullshit and won't stand up in the NH.

I hope Healy is okay he's a fucking warrior

[Crucial]

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zip

[Machpants]

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zip

Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

[Crucial]

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zip

Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

Undeniable though.

[Stag]

Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

[Stag]

@Crucial Weber and TJ were both as crap as they have been all season.

[Machpants]

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zip

Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

Undeniable though.

TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
Scoreboard says otherwise.

Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

[Machpants]

@Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

You would imagine, esp as he played 80

[Frye]

@Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

Probably not. Reserve at best. They have good midfielders though.

[taniwharugby]

the Maori set piece held up well.

Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

[Machpants]

@taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

the Maori set piece held up well.

Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

I think you'll say the same thing after Saturday

[Crucial]

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zip

Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

Undeniable though.

TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
Scoreboard says otherwise.

Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
Of course there’s other factors.

[Machpants]

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.

I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow

Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zip

Yeah that's totally a sensible use of stats

Undeniable though.

TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
Scoreboard says otherwise.

Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!

You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
Of course there’s other factors.

There's only one factor to your teams performance. Whether foster is coach or not

[Crucial]

@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

@taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

the Maori set piece held up well.

Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

I think you'll say the same thing after Saturday

That Ireland attack pattern was used to good effect and it isn’t one we are used to defending.
3 close in dummy runners in a line with the ball either skipping them or going right behind to a hole runner was easy metres for Ireland.

[ACT Crusader]

@Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?

I’d say it’s very unlikely unless there are injuries between now and Saturday.

[Dan54]

@taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:

the Maori set piece held up well.

Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.

Just got on from game, enjoyed it, things got messy in second half though.
You right Taniwha, Irish had a great defensive set up from set piece and but looked a little lost on when Maori had phase ball and attacked on left side. But all in all not bad for first up game by both teams.

[ARHS]

Top display from 10 to 40 minutes. Enjoyed both Sullivans a lot and thought Weber played a composed intelligent game in tough conditions to lead the way. Dickson Harmon Suafoa and Norris showed impact in the forwards.
Shame we lost a bit of poise in second half. Bench was mediocre.
Coombes and Timoney looked very good. But the front row could be a worry for Ireland now with so many injuries.

[Yeetyaah]

Great first half. Won a little punt. Was sweating bullets when Love took the shot.