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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    Both Papalii AND PGS on bench. Does that mean they are looking to sub either Cane or Ardie?

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    Both Papalii AND PGS on bench. Does that mean they are looking to sub either Cane or Ardie?

    You don't need a lock on the bench when you have a lock at 6.

    It's like admitting one of them should be playing 6 without the balls to actually do it.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      Both Papalii AND PGS on bench. Does that mean they are looking to sub either Cane or Ardie?

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      @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Both Papalii AND PGS on bench. Does that mean they are looking to sub either Cane or Ardie?

      neither

      both locks will get subbed and PGS will play there too

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Both Papalii AND PGS on bench. Does that mean they are looking to sub either Cane or Ardie?

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        @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

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          Taylor was always going to start but he shouldn't be. No Laulala.

          There isn't another option for no.23 as Perofeta is redundant with Mo'unga and BB.

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          • TimT Tim

            @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

            which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

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              Yay. Red Magnet Barrett on the blindside no less. What could possibly go wrong.

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                did the coaches watch the game last night and decide Ofa will be sweet, of has Ofa been keeping his powder dry at Super level scumming?

                Barrett to 6, does that mean we will attack the lineo...oh right

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                  Is Akira Ioane injured?
                  Ennor above anyone?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                    This coaching group are soft as butter.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                    This coaching group are soft as butter.

                    S Barrett is top three as a lock, but way down the list as a six. Akira, Dalton, PGS, Cane even Savea would be better picks there - and that's just in the current squad.

                    Picking PGS on the bench instead of a Akira is also a joke (assuming AI isn't one of the Covid cases).

                    Hooker is also around the wrong way.

                    LF, QT are also pretty average picks - probably forced with the current injuries/illnesses.

                    At least they picked the right ten.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                      Agreed. Why replaced a tired lock with another?

                      I don't think it is Cane that will be subbed. Injuries aside I think the plan would be for PGS to replace Ardie as they want to see his go-forward from the base. Cane/DP will play the flanks SA style.

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                        There's two outstanding number 8s in the country that are both excellent lineout exponents. If you had either of them at 8 you wouldn't need to shoehorn in a lock at 6.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          looooooooooooooooool

                          get fucked

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                          looooooooooooooooool

                          get fucked

                          A more accurate and concise summary than anything Stuff or the Herald will run today.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            There's two outstanding number 8s in the country that are both excellent lineout exponents. If you had either of them at 8 you wouldn't need to shoehorn in a lock at 6.

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                            @KiwiMurph and they, like us will be watching the game.

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                              The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

                                goddam rugby players are fucking soft

                                NRL players will play Origin Wednesday and club Friday night. Rugby players need to be "managed" back from a comp that finished 2 weeks ago?

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                                  This coaching group are soft as butter.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                                  This coaching group are soft as butter.

                                  Soft in the head.

                                  I'm starting to believe they're trying to fucking lose.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                                    which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                                    which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                                    ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                                      ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                                      ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

                                      Starting with Ofa suggests they won't have one at the start either. That's among the worst possible starting forward packs available to them. How the fuck do these clowns think Scott should be a blindside flanker? Where's Sotutu?

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                                        It is going to be interesting to see how PGS and Papalii are used. I think one of Retallick (likely) or Whitelock will be subbed, allowing SB to move into lock. Ardie's days as an 80 min player might be over.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

                                          goddam rugby players are fucking soft

                                          NRL players will play Origin Wednesday and club Friday night. Rugby players need to be "managed" back from a comp that finished 2 weeks ago?

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                                          @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

                                          As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

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