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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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    Is Akira Ioane injured?
    Ennor above anyone?

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

      This coaching group are soft as butter.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

      This coaching group are soft as butter.

      S Barrett is top three as a lock, but way down the list as a six. Akira, Dalton, PGS, Cane even Savea would be better picks there - and that's just in the current squad.

      Picking PGS on the bench instead of a Akira is also a joke (assuming AI isn't one of the Covid cases).

      Hooker is also around the wrong way.

      LF, QT are also pretty average picks - probably forced with the current injuries/illnesses.

      At least they picked the right ten.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

        which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

        which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

        Agreed. Why replaced a tired lock with another?

        I don't think it is Cane that will be subbed. Injuries aside I think the plan would be for PGS to replace Ardie as they want to see his go-forward from the base. Cane/DP will play the flanks SA style.

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          There's two outstanding number 8s in the country that are both excellent lineout exponents. If you had either of them at 8 you wouldn't need to shoehorn in a lock at 6.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            looooooooooooooooool

            get fucked

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

            looooooooooooooooool

            get fucked

            A more accurate and concise summary than anything Stuff or the Herald will run today.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              There's two outstanding number 8s in the country that are both excellent lineout exponents. If you had either of them at 8 you wouldn't need to shoehorn in a lock at 6.

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              taniwharugby
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              @KiwiMurph and they, like us will be watching the game.

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                The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

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                • TimT Tim

                  The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                  The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

                  goddam rugby players are fucking soft

                  NRL players will play Origin Wednesday and club Friday night. Rugby players need to be "managed" back from a comp that finished 2 weeks ago?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                    This coaching group are soft as butter.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                    This coaching group are soft as butter.

                    Soft in the head.

                    I'm starting to believe they're trying to fucking lose.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                      ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                        which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                        ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                        which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                        ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

                        Starting with Ofa suggests they won't have one at the start either. That's among the worst possible starting forward packs available to them. How the fuck do these clowns think Scott should be a blindside flanker? Where's Sotutu?

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                          It is going to be interesting to see how PGS and Papalii are used. I think one of Retallick (likely) or Whitelock will be subbed, allowing SB to move into lock. Ardie's days as an 80 min player might be over.

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

                            goddam rugby players are fucking soft

                            NRL players will play Origin Wednesday and club Friday night. Rugby players need to be "managed" back from a comp that finished 2 weeks ago?

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                            @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

                            As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

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                              @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

                              As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

                              As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

                              and the super compliant NZ media will just roll with it

                              this is such a shit, uninspired selection.

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                                I didn't even notice super scrummager Angus Ta'avao was in the squad.

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                                  Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                                  I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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                                    Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                                    I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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                                    @Duluth i was wondering that but they havent hidden the other so not sure why they would find any new ones

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                                      I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                      Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                                      I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

                                      i still expect us to win. but this team builds nothing from a personnel perspective, so there better be some new fucking game play

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                                        I've generally stayed away from the recent Fozzie pile ons (not because I think he's a good coach, just we've been doing it a few years now), but I'm fully on board now.

                                        Card Barrett at 6. What the actual fuck? PGS over Sotutu or Akira on the bench. Fuck off.

                                        I've had migraines this week, am about to resign from my current job with nothing new lined up as the owners are dickheads, but that all pales into comparison over Barrett at 6.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                                          I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                          Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about?

                                          they've announced the other ones, why not tell us about all of them?

                                          I wonder if Schmidt had any input into selections, given he's been there, have to give feedback to Foz on combos, fitness etc?

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