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All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    It is going to be interesting to see how PGS and Papalii are used. I think one of Retallick (likely) or Whitelock will be subbed, allowing SB to move into lock. Ardie's days as an 80 min player might be over.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

      The press release, unsurprisingly, didn't include any great insight into the selection decisions, including opting for Scott Barrett at No 6 and leaving Dalton Papalii on the bench. There was simply a line from Foster regarding them taking into account managing players coming back from Super Rugby. Stuff reporter Marc Hinton is attending a press conference, however, and will have plenty to report throughout the day.

      goddam rugby players are fucking soft

      NRL players will play Origin Wednesday and club Friday night. Rugby players need to be "managed" back from a comp that finished 2 weeks ago?

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      @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

      As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

        As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

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        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

        @mariner4life is it really the players wanting to be managed back in?

        As you say, most are at least 2 weeks since thier last game, I expect they are all chomping at the bit to play, managing the players is BS speak treating the media and fans like muppets IMO.

        and the super compliant NZ media will just roll with it

        this is such a shit, uninspired selection.

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          I didn't even notice super scrummager Angus Ta'avao was in the squad.

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            Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

            I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

              I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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              @Duluth i was wondering that but they havent hidden the other so not sure why they would find any new ones

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

                i still expect us to win. but this team builds nothing from a personnel perspective, so there better be some new fucking game play

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                  I've generally stayed away from the recent Fozzie pile ons (not because I think he's a good coach, just we've been doing it a few years now), but I'm fully on board now.

                  Card Barrett at 6. What the actual fuck? PGS over Sotutu or Akira on the bench. Fuck off.

                  I've had migraines this week, am about to resign from my current job with nothing new lined up as the owners are dickheads, but that all pales into comparison over Barrett at 6.

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about? Otherwise there's some strange decisions

                    I suspect the Irish might be weaker than people think.. so it may not matter in this series. I'm pessimistic about the Championship matches though

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                    @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                    Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about?

                    they've announced the other ones, why not tell us about all of them?

                    I wonder if Schmidt had any input into selections, given he's been there, have to give feedback to Foz on combos, fitness etc?

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                      ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

                      Starting with Ofa suggests they won't have one at the start either. That's among the worst possible starting forward packs available to them. How the fuck do these clowns think Scott should be a blindside flanker? Where's Sotutu?

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                      @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                      @Crucial Cane gets subbed, Barrett shifts to lock.

                      which is actually a really fucking dumb way to manage your tight 5

                      ....yeah....not expecting to have a dominant scrum in the final 20mins

                      Starting with Ofa suggests they won't have one at the start either.

                      The Irish scrum isn't that great, so if the ABs struggle it doesn't bode well for playing SA.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about?

                        they've announced the other ones, why not tell us about all of them?

                        I wonder if Schmidt had any input into selections, given he's been there, have to give feedback to Foz on combos, fitness etc?

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                        Maybe there's more covid cases than we know about?

                        they've announced the other ones, why not tell us about all of them?

                        I wonder if Schmidt had any input into selections, given he's been there, have to give feedback to Foz on combos, fitness etc?

                        There is apparently a press conference still to come.

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                          Press conference isn't available live anywhere? First AB team of the year is a pretty big announcement ...

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            I've generally stayed away from the recent Fozzie pile ons (not because I think he's a good coach, just we've been doing it a few years now), but I'm fully on board now.

                            Card Barrett at 6. What the actual fuck? PGS over Sotutu or Akira on the bench. Fuck off.

                            I've had migraines this week, am about to resign from my current job with nothing new lined up as the owners are dickheads, but that all pales into comparison over Barrett at 6.

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                            @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                            I've generally stayed away from the recent Fozzie pile ons (not because I think he's a good coach, just we've been doing it a few years now), but I'm fully on board now.

                            Card Barrett at 6. What the actual fuck? PGS over Sotutu or Akira on the bench. Fuck off.

                            I've had migraines this week, am about to resign from my current job with nothing new lined up as the owners are dickheads, but that all pales into comparison over Barrett at 6.

                            i dont know if i expect us too but i think we can...but once again i think it will be on the back of a moment or two to individual brilliance from someone like Reece rather than a cohesive and well executed gameplan

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Press conference isn't available live anywhere? First AB team of the year is a pretty big announcement ...

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                              Press conference isn't available live anywhere? First AB team of the year is a pretty big announcement ...

                              It hasn't been held yet according to Stuff.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Tim said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                Press conference isn't available live anywhere? First AB team of the year is a pretty big announcement ...

                                It hasn't been held yet according to Stuff.

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                                @Bovidae I looked at Sky's tv guide, and it wasn't listed.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  I've generally stayed away from the recent Fozzie pile ons (not because I think he's a good coach, just we've been doing it a few years now), but I'm fully on board now.

                                  Card Barrett at 6. What the actual fuck? PGS over Sotutu or Akira on the bench. Fuck off.

                                  I've had migraines this week, am about to resign from my current job with nothing new lined up as the owners are dickheads, but that all pales into comparison over Barrett at 6.

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                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                  I've generally stayed away from the recent Fozzie pile ons (not because I think he's a good coach, just we've been doing it a few years now), but I'm fully on board now.

                                  "Fosters Flops Since 2003". It's only taken 19 years to catch up with Steamers fans 🙂

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                                    This coaching group are soft as butter.

                                    S Barrett is top three as a lock, but way down the list as a six. Akira, Dalton, PGS, Cane even Savea would be better picks there - and that's just in the current squad.

                                    Picking PGS on the bench instead of a Akira is also a joke (assuming AI isn't one of the Covid cases).

                                    Hooker is also around the wrong way.

                                    LF, QT are also pretty average picks - probably forced with the current injuries/illnesses.

                                    At least they picked the right ten.

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                                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

                                    Barrett at 6 and Ennor at 23.

                                    This coaching group are soft as butter.

                                    S Barrett is top three as a lock, but way down the list as a six. Akira, Dalton, PGS, Cane even Savea would be better picks there - and that's just in the current squad.

                                    Picking PGS on the bench instead of a Akira is also a joke (assuming AI isn't one of the Covid cases).

                                    Hooker is also around the wrong way.

                                    LF, QT are also pretty average picks - probably forced with the current injuries/illnesses.

                                    At least they picked the right ten.

                                    Akira must have Covid, or Foster has turned into Steve Hansen.

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                                      so the mix in teh forwards is:

                                      Three locks (okay)
                                      Three Opensides (ummm)
                                      One #8 (okay)

                                      This is a mess because we are absolutely wedded to starting a ruck-shy midget at 8 because the selectors watch YouTube.

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                                        All those backs have fallen over and Tuivasa-Sheck still doesn’t get a go in the 23.

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                                          All those backs have fallen over and Tuivasa-Sheck still doesn’t get a go in the 23.

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                                          @MN5 im still annoyed TUJ, who looked devastating in a poor highlander team, wasnt consider ahead of ennor for the squad but yes, a fit and on form RTS could/should have provided a real spark

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