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Ireland tour to NZ 2022

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    Possibly some real concerns on loosehead stocks after last night. Loughman could/should be stood down for concussion (despite returning to play) and Healy looking like his knee has blown.
    Only one true LH left. Does that mean we may go to oldies scrums at some point in the test?

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      Possibly some real concerns on loosehead stocks after last night. Loughman could/should be stood down for concussion (despite returning to play) and Healy looking like his knee has blown.
      Only one true LH left. Does that mean we may go to oldies scrums at some point in the test?

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      @Crucial said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

      Possibly some real concerns on loosehead stocks after last night. Loughman could/should be stood down for concussion (despite returning to play) and Healy looking like his knee has blown.
      Only one true LH left. Does that mean we may go to oldies scrums at some point in the test?

      Yeah not sure the rules, if they can't supply full front row cover, does that mean they go to 14 if the LH goes off?

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        You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

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          @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

          You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

          @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

          You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

          And what if you don't have 2LHs?

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            @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

            You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

            @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

            You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

            And what if you don't have 2LHs?

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            taniwharugby
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            @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

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              @taniwharugby said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

              @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

              Call up some one from NPC!

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              • M Machpants

                @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

                @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                You need to designate the props as LHs or THs before the game so can't play that card during the match.

                And what if you don't have 2LHs?

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                @Machpants

                Prior to the match, each team must advise the appropriate match official of their front-row players and possible front-row replacements and which position(s) in the front row they can play. Only these players may play in the front row when the scrum is contested and only in their designated position(s).

                Farrell did mention that they might have to use a TH at LH. If they then said to the ref that prop couldn't actually play LH then I expect there would be uncontested scrums and a player needs to leave the field.

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                • M Machpants

                  @taniwharugby said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                  @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

                  Call up some one from NPC!

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                  #82

                  @Machpants well there is an Irish Born prop playing up here, was in the Highlanders squad in 2020, played age grade Irish rugby too...not sure his fitness is upto it though.

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                    Healy has been named on the bench.

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                    • M Machpants

                      @taniwharugby said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                      @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

                      Call up some one from NPC!

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                      @Machpants said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                      @taniwharugby said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                      @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

                      Call up some one from NPC!

                      No idea what side he plays, but I wonder if Jager would accept an invite if one was forthcoming?

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @Machpants said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                        @taniwharugby said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                        @Machpants borrow one from the opposition?

                        Call up some one from NPC!

                        No idea what side he plays, but I wonder if Jager would accept an invite if one was forthcoming?

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                        @Crazy-Horse

                        Tighthead

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Healy has been named on the bench.

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                          @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                          Healy has been named on the bench.

                          I smell something fishy. Like getting 'injured' in the warmups.

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                            Tighthead

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                            @Duluth cheers. I have never gotten my head around who plays what side.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                              Healy has been named on the bench.

                              I smell something fishy. Like getting 'injured' in the warmups.

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                              @Crucial said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                              @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                              Healy has been named on the bench.

                              I smell something fishy. Like getting 'injured' in the warmups.

                              WR would be all over that you would hope. The manager does need to provide the match officials with a 23 prior to kickoff.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                                Healy has been named on the bench.

                                I smell something fishy. Like getting 'injured' in the warmups.

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                                @Crucial you'd think Ireland rate thier scrum to want to be able to use it as an attacking platform...maybe if GO scrums, we have plenty of mobilityon the bench

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                                  Bealham has played both sides for us in the past - he started at LH for us recently against Georgia. So if Healy were to drop out it'd be Bealham covering LH and O'Toole covering TH

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Healy has been named on the bench.

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                                    @Bovidae said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:

                                    Healy has been named on the bench.

                                    The bloke looked in some serious pain last night and had to be carted off the field. Either Healy has a pain tolerance like mine, or they made an error.

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                                      Healy has recovered better than expected and was moving around of his own accord yesterday a couple of hours after the match. He can play both sides of the scrum, as can Bealham.

                                      Henderson gone, so Beirne the obvious candidate to take the starting spot alongside Ryan.

                                      Nous of O'Mahony to start means Conan moves to bench.

                                      Out back, it's all-Leinster except for Earls who got in ahead of Larmour for the other wing spot.

                                      Whilst this lot have played more recently than the mix n match side against Maoris, I don't see a win coming up. Unless Farrell has found something to get them re-charged to the level they were at last November - cos that's what's needed at minimum. Earls and Lowe are vulnerable to being skinned on the outside - could be very uncomfortable viewing by the time the half-time hooter blows.

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                                        Healy has recovered better than expected and was moving around of his own accord yesterday a couple of hours after the match. He can play both sides of the scrum, as can Bealham.

                                        Henderson gone, so Beirne the obvious candidate to take the starting spot alongside Ryan.

                                        Nous of O'Mahony to start means Conan moves to bench.

                                        Out back, it's all-Leinster except for Earls who got in ahead of Larmour for the other wing spot.

                                        Whilst this lot have played more recently than the mix n match side against Maoris, I don't see a win coming up. Unless Farrell has found something to get them re-charged to the level they were at last November - cos that's what's needed at minimum. Earls and Lowe are vulnerable to being skinned on the outside - could be very uncomfortable viewing by the time the half-time hooter blows.

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                                        @Derm-McCrum Given the disruptions to our side and some odd selections I think Fozzie is trying to make it tight. Good luck.

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